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The Dutch. I'm done.

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After 3 or 4 times hanging out at the bar for drinks, 3 dinners and today's brunch, I'm finally done.

The place just doesn't work.

The servers are always professional and friendly when you've got their attention, but they disappear for long periods every time. The bar is too conscientious for its own good and the bartenders take forever to get drinks out.

The food is slow to come out and you're left with an expensive cocktail list of small expensive drinks and an inexplicably bad selection of crappy wines by the glass.

At noon today they were out of things on the menu and it took them over 90 minutes to serve us our brunch of little more than eggs.

The place is always annoyingly loud and is the single strongest bridge and tunnel magnet in the neighborhood. Think lots of tables of loud girls.

Andrew Carmellini's food is excellent. The food is tasty and if you're going to go, I recommend the Fall Salad appetizer.

What a shame. It's so nice inside. I really want to love this place but it's impossible.

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The Dutch
131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

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  1. Can't disagree. I only went there once, for light meal at the bar. While it wasnt bad, i havent had any desire to return when there are so many better options.

    1. i went there once this summer after trying to resist. i am not a fan of locanda verde and thought carmellini at a voce was extremely overrated as well.

      i expected a horrible crowd, bad service, and mediocre food. instead, i got a horrible crowd, decent service, and decent food.

      i won't go again but i had low expectations and it was better than i thought. i thought the service was fine but annoying. i think the sommelier was visibly upset at me for not needing his help.

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      A Voce
      41 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10010

      Locanda Verde
      377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

      The Dutch
      131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

      1. I can't disagree, either. The food is solid -- not in my opinion amazing, but good; I haven't tried the fried chicken, to be fair -- but the package deal of loooong waits to sit, order and receive food; sometimes irksome, scene-seeking, screechy crowd; high volume levels; and yes, crappy + badly stored wines by the glass, is not for me, either. I've also given it three tries, two dinners and one lunch. Deficio.

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        1. re: michelleats

          Badly stored wine by the glass is imo one if the most frightening and embarassingly common problems in NYC restaurants. Even upscale places like Maialino fail at this.

          1. re: Simon

            If I get one more freezing cold glass of white wine, or bathtub temperature red wine, at a "good" restaurant, I'm going to kill somebody.

            1. re: Simon

              Yes, you're right. But I've noticed many restaurants are MUCH more conscious today than they were 8-10 years ago... So we're getting a little bit better, slowly!

              The Dutch was a bit more egregious than usual, though, actually. The first time we went to The Dutch, we were served wine that had been in an open bottle for so long that it tasted like vinegar -- very surprising, since at a busy restaurant like The Dutch, you'd expect the turnover rate to be high enough this wouldn't happen. Our server was extremely nice about replacing it once we flagged him down... but that took about 15 minutes. The second and third times we went, it wasn't quite that bad. Wines by the glass were probably about two days old if stored w/o a vacuum seal, and red wines were too warm, but they weren't yet vinegary. I think I remember seeing bottles for wines by the glass just sitting on the bar, on a tray, many with very loose corks. It might look nice and be convenient for these bottles to be out, but it's definitely not the best way to hold open bottles.

              Anyway, rant over. The Dutch is definitely not the only restaurant guilty of these sins, as you point out!

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              The Dutch
              131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

              1. re: michelleats

                For an example/recommendation of a place that's doing it right, check out Ten Bells -- went there the other day and was delighted that my glass of Cheverny pinot/gamay was served w/ a perfect, just slightly below cellar temperature chill. Good food too. Will review it at length later.

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                The Ten Bells
                247 Broome St, New York, NY 10002