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ABBOCCATO in the Blakely Hotel

kittykatkid Dec 4, 2011 08:47 AM

Has anyone been to this restaurant? Possibly dining there next weekend as we will be visiting with out of towners staying at the hotel...is it a good place to eat or can you sugjest something in the area that is better? I would perfer Northern Italian or French...all sujestions welcomed thank you.

136 W. 55th St, New York, NY 10019

  1. StevenCinNYC Dec 4, 2011 11:33 AM

    Others may have better ideas, but I find that area tricky. I've eaten at Abboccato twice. Once was good, once was disappointing.

    Probably your best bet is Marea. I've not been, but everyone raves about it, and it's Northern Italian. If you're willing to go a little further uptown, I'd suggest Picholine which I love and seems to be French but on the border with Italy.

    Otherwise, sticking to the neighborhood, I like The Modern (and Bar Modern) and BLT Steak which are both near there, but not Italian/French. Le Bernadin is nearby. I've not been, but Gordon Ramsey at the London and Benoit are also nearby.

    Le Bernardin
    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

    The Modern
    9 West 53rd Street, New York, NY 10019

    35 West 64th St., New York, NY 10023

    136 W. 55th St, New York, NY 10019

    BLT Steak
    106 East 57th Street, New York, NY 10022

    Gordon Ramsay at the London
    151 W 54th St, New York, NY 10019

    60 West 55th Street, New York, NY 10019

    240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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    1. re: StevenCinNYC
      kittykatkid Dec 5, 2011 06:53 AM

      Thanks for the input, I am definitely not going to Abboccato..have you ever been to Print? The rooftop bar is suppoose to have a nice view of the skyline and the food seems good..at least on zagat it got a 25 for food and a 25 for decor and people raved about it on zagat...I am thinking of giving it a try.

      653 11th Ave, New York, NY 10036

      1. re: kittykatkid
        StevenCinNYC Dec 5, 2011 07:17 AM

        Never heard of it. Just looking at menu, it looks good.

        Zagat is a blunt instrument with multiple factors influencing reviews. Generally, pricier places score higher reviews. Plus any place that's been around for a while has weeded out a number of people who don't like it, leaving behind potentially only a small handful who do. Since you're only supposed to review a restaurant you've visited in the past year, all the people who didn't like it in the prior year (and their friends!) won't go in the current year. Plus, the only scoring is really either 2 or 3 since very few people score any place a 1 and no one scores a zero.

        So I think it's helpful to get a general sense of a restaurant, but I don't think that there's much meaningful difference between a 23 and a 25. Plus, sometimes a 25 isn't really a 25, especially for an expensive restaurant. A few stalwarts who don't know any better can tip the scales.

        1. re: StevenCinNYC
          kittykatkid Dec 5, 2011 07:50 AM

          Yes I definitely agree with you.I use zagat as a guide then I usually ask chowhound ..it has seemed to formulate success in my experience... I definitely have never been steered wrong when using this method while traveling..I have found some great restaurants on my travels using this.. I usually try to review restaurants with a 23-24 or above rating and not really even bother with anything under a 22...and what is haute cuisine to someone is not to someone else..it is all realative isn't it...what someone from the midwest thinks is a fantastic dining experience someone from NYC might not agree...I have used zagat combined with Chowhound to find great restaurants in the states and abroad was well..I love chowhound..the best!!

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            StevenCinNYC Dec 5, 2011 07:53 AM


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      boboq Dec 5, 2011 07:46 AM

      Abbocato is not great. Food way too salty and indifferently prepared. On the same block, I recomment Osteria del Circo or one block farther on 55th, try Il Corso. Either will be a far better experience if you want Italian food in that neighborhood.

      120 West 55th Street, New York, NY 10019

      136 W. 55th St, New York, NY 10019

      Il Corso
      54 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

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      1. re: boboq
        kittykatkid Dec 5, 2011 08:13 AM

        Thanks boboq I will check them out..have you ever tried Print?

        1. re: kittykatkid
          boboq Dec 5, 2011 02:29 PM

          I have not tried it, however... Why would you? The menu looks fine, though not out of the ordinary and it is so far from anything else or any transport in Manhattan, it may as well be on the Moon.

          Per your comment below, for $100 per person, you can do well at several of the places mentioned in the thread. I'd avoid Gordon Ramsey. Also - how formal are you looking for?

          1. re: boboq
            kittykatkid Dec 5, 2011 03:43 PM

            Not formal at all, will be at the Blakely meeting out of town friends who suggested eating at Abbaccato because it is in the hotel.. I did not find that menu inviting at all..they wanted to go to someplace we could have a drink with a veiw, supposedly the view is really nice from their lounge...it got good reviews on zagat and I figured why niot give it a try..I was thinking JoJo or Triomphe.. I have no idea I wanted them to go down to the village but every place I suggested was a no..I think they want to stay around the Times Square/Rockerfeller Plaza/Theatre area..so to hop a cab and go to Print isn't a bad idea.

            1. re: kittykatkid
              StevenCinNYC Dec 5, 2011 06:11 PM

              Triomphe is pretty good, but not exciting and no view. I enjoy Todd English's Food Hall under the Plaza Hotel, but other CHs seem not to like it. One thing, they tend to bring people's dishes at different times, but as long as you know in advance and everyone understands (and doesn't wait for the others' dishes), it's fine and sort of fun. I usually sit at the pizza station. The chef there is very nice.

              Actually, the best place for an informal meal with a view not far from there is really Robert at the Museum of Design. It's a great value, and the food and service are good, and the view of Columbus Circle and Central Park is really great. Just call after you book online to personally request a table by the window (that's the secret). I haven't been in about 6 months, but they've never disappointed me.

              49 West 44th Street, New York, NY 10036

              2 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

              Plaza Food Hall
              1 W 59th St, New York, NY 10019

      2. k
        kathryn Dec 5, 2011 08:19 AM

        Without knowing your price range it's a little hard to make specific suggestions. Also since this is for next weekend you may find a lot of your choices are already fully booked up.

        But also in that general neighborhood is:
        Ma Peche
        La Grenouille
        Jean Georges and Nougatine

        Jean Georges
        1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

        La Grenouille
        3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

        132 West 58th Street, New York, NY 10019

        1 Central Park West, New York, NY 10023

        Ma Peche
        15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

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        1. re: kathryn
          kittykatkid Dec 5, 2011 08:27 AM

          Like to keep it in the price range of 100 bucks per person with a glass of wine or two.

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