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Nov 29, 2011 07:37 PM

Bob Kramer Damascus Chef’s Knife by Zwilling Henckels

I accidentally noticed this knife on Sur La Table website. It is beautiful and looks much like the knives from Kramer's shop, but it is definitely not inexpensive at $1800. It is basically the same price of the original non-Damascus Kramer knife from a few years back:

If you like this Henckels Kramer knife, then enjoy and possibly save up some money for one. Remember, only 250 were made, so don't wait too long.

If you don't like the deal, then have a laugh.

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  1. Well, I now know what's going on my Christmas list! Good thing my wife never looks at the damned thing...

    1. Similar to a family heirloom knife I have, but with a 10" blue steel blade and a blood groove, made in Springfield, Mass. in 1838. Oh, what an edge it holds. I use 4 stones: 3 Wachita Arkansas, 1 from Italy. Not for sale.

        1. Hmm. They look awfully pretty. Course, they damn well better.

          I guess the interesting question is whether people will pay this much money for a 'Kramer' that has really dubious collectors value. Offhand, I suspect that people will. On top of collectors, Kramer seems to have firm support from the "I read in Esquire that these are the best knives money can buy so that's what I want" crowd. But time will tell.

          From my perspective, there are just too many great American custom made knives in this price range for me to even consider buying this (assuming I was looking for a knife in this price range in the first place). The American custom market has really expanded recently. And though we definitely can give some of the credit to Bob Kramer, his knives are no longer the be-all and end-all of top notch American kitchen cutlery (OK, they never were exactly, but now even less so).

          So Chem, are gonna take one for the team? Maybe a little passaround action? ;D

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          1. re: cowboyardee

            I didn't get a chance to reply this, even though I meant to.

            No, I am not going to take one for the team. :P

            At this price range, I mostly have a few alternatives before this one. I don't mind a little passaround next time when I get something interesting. :)

          2. Hi Chem, I find the shape of Kramer's blades interesting. There is knuckle clearance, not to much belly in the curve and a nice point on the end.. Do you have a favorite shape for a chefs knife? The Bob Kramer Carbon steel knife (pictured) is around $300 and looks to be basically the same as the Damascus (shape)

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            1. re: Ross101

              Yeah, a lot of people love Kramer knife profile. Though he has at least two profiles. The one mentioned here, and the Meiji profile.

              This knife profile looks more curved than its first glance. It has a gentle curvature because the spine curves down a lot to form the tip.

              Yes, many people like the $300 Henckels-Kramer carbon steel knife. This Damascus one is prettier, but so much more expensive too.

              1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                Thanks Chem.. If you were to own only one chefs knife what would it be..

                1. re: Ross101

                  Sorry about the late reply.

                  It is a really tough question. The knives which I like the most at this moment are my CCK Chinese KF1303 cleaver and my Watanabe blue steel Nakiri. However, if I can only have one knife, then I may actually go back to my cumbersome Dexter-Russell Traditional Chinese cleaver.

                  For 99% of my task, I prefer a thin blade knife, but there is always those exceptional cases, and the Dexter can handle a wider range of applications.

                  A sport car would be great, but I won't want to just have a sport car. I would rather have a more boring sedan in that case.

                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                    "A sport car would be great, but I won't want to just have a sport car. I would rather have a more boring sedan in that case."

                    But the DR cleaver would seem to be more of pickup truck or SUV. I'd think a santoku or chef/gyuto would be more of a sedan...

                    My Saab is a perfect (for me) combination of sports car, touring sedan & pickup truck. It's my "three virtues" vehicle! :-D

                    [Hmmm... it's even shaped kinda like a santoku knife...]

                    1. re: Eiron

                      "It's my "three virtues" vehicle! :-D"

                      That is awesome :D