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Nov 25, 2011 09:35 PM

4 Nights - e, L'Atelier, Aburiya Raku ... ?

For a few years we'd been making annual Vegas trips but missed a round last year. We'll be coming back next month. We've almost always gone to L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon (though my last experience was not quite as good as the first few visits), I fell in love with Aburiya Raku last trip (went twice on a 4 day trip, which I never do), and will definitely do Jose Andres' "e" if we can get in (I went to minibar a few years ago and really enjoyed it).

Lotus of Siam and Bouchon are also favorites and are already in contention for rounding out our 4th night. Of course LOS is also a lunch option. (Unfortunately Bouchon brunch is not a possibility as we won't be in town for a weekend). We will likely also try to work in China Poblano for a lunch.

There are a few things in particular I'd love some help on ->

(1) One more dinner option. On or off strip, price not necessarily an object, but not looking for ultra-high end unless it's really exceptional. I'll preemptively strike from the list (1) Jaleo (already been to the DC one a few tiems); (2) Scarpetta (have it here in Miami); (3) any steakhouses (yawn).

(2) Any advice on the kaiseki at Raku vs. regular menu? They did not offer that when we last visited; not finding a ton of info on the board.

(3) Lunch suggestions? I found a good relatively recent thread on "ethnic" options but any suggestions are welcome.

(4) Good baked goods. Just a simple, perfect croissant for breakfast. Thoughts? We'll be staying at the Cosmopolitan, proximity is a plus.

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  1. Hey, Frod. I figured by now that you'd have several replies but since you haven't gotten any, I'll throw in my $.02. Now that my son has left SoFla and moved to Vegas, we've had several visits out there. I can't help you with the ethnic eateries other than LOS, for your extra dinner, not outrageously priced, I'd recommend Todd's Unique. It's sort of like a cross between Cafe Maxx and Timo. Check out their menu on- line. Service and food are always great. For your croissant, Jean Phillipe in the Bellagio would be my pick near the Cosmo. There are others as good if not better, but not as close to City Center. I hope you get to visit e, as there's nothing like it in SoFla.

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    1. re: zook

      There's also a Jean Phillipe in the Aria.

      If you want to stuff yourself with croissants, there's the continental breakfast buffet at Payard Bistro in Caesar's.

    2. Milos in the Cosmo has a great three course lunch special $20.11. There are several posts on the board. I would give a solid second for Todd's; it is our "go to" restaurant in Las Vegas.

      1. As a dinner option you might look into Sage.

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        1. re: honkman

          I second to SAGE. My husband and I always have at least one dinner every time we are in Vegas. I love everything they serve, but Foie gras brulee is a must.

          Sage (Aria)
          3730 Las Vegas Blvd S, Las Vegas, NV 89109

        2. Thanks to those who responded. Bumping this - less than a week till we go, itinerary so far looks like this:

          1. _______
          2. Aburiya Raku
          3. é
          4. _______

          Leading contenders to fill in the blanks are L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon and Lotus of Siam, with Sage a dark horse candidate. LOS might also become a lunch.

          Bouchon will be a breakfast, lunches will include China Poblano and Monta Ramen (and possibly LOS as a lunch instead of dinner). The Estiatorio Milos lunch deal is in the mix too.

          I would still very much welcome -

          - any thoughts on the Raku "kaiseki" dinner option, which apparently must be requested in advance.

          - smaller scale lunch suggestions, on or off strip.

          - Chinese dim sum / noodles suggestions. We've actually always enjoyed Noodles in the
          Bellagio when we've stayed there, would welcome other / better suggestions.

          - Dinner options I may be overlooking. Not looking for another blowout meal, i.e. no Gagnaire, Savoy, because é is doing a special holiday menu which is very pricey. Sage intrigued. Done B&B, Le Cirque, Aureole and not itching to go back to any. Looked at Todd's, but the food seems a little dated (I may have just gotten put off when the first item was a goat cheese wonton with raspberry basil sauce). Seeking creative cooking over posh setting, happy to go off strip for it.

          (zook - thanks for the response, hope your son's enjoying Vegas and you're enjoying your visits).

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          1. re: Frodnesor

            Sage is terrific. I would highly recommend it Todd's is actually our local and we probably are there at least twice a month. I get your point but will say that Todd's always delivers on execution, good ingredients and very good service. But if you are looking to try something new, sage is grat.

            I honestly prefer to order off the menu at raku rather than the kaiseki. We did do the kaiseki once and it was terrific but it was simply way too much food, and I prefer the ability to customize my meal a bit more.

            1. re: Frodnesor

              I've only dined at Raku once (two years ago, and I still consider it one of the best meals of my life), and it was à la carte -- I wasn't even aware of the kaiseki option.

              After I recommended Raku to a friend who went to Vegas this year, she went with a few people, gave them their budget and said 'just keep it coming'. While neither omakase nor kaiseki, they loved every bit of it. Something you might be able to do.

              1. re: linguafood

                Our last visit to LV (about 2 years ago) I went to Raku twice in four days - I never do that. We didn't book the kaiseki in advance so we're just going a la carte. The omakase suggestion is a good one, may do that.

                1. re: linguafood

                  One new development. If you have a group of six or more, at least on Friday and Saturday night, Raku seems to now insist on the table having either a $50 or $75 set dinner. When we were offered this last Friday night, we were assured this had nothing to do with a minimum check but with the constraints of the kitchen. We were told that we could probably add some extra dishes. But the reservation person couldn't tell us what either menu would be, and some of my friends balked. This policy seems to be new.

                2. re: Frodnesor


                  Our 2 favorite dim sum places in Vegas are Ping Pang Pong and Orchids Garden. We've tried a few others, but these two are the best in our opinion. Enjoy!

                  1. re: Michelle

                    Michelle, I had the dim sum at Ping Pang Pong a couple of Sundays ago and I'm happy to say that this was easily the best meal I've ever had at PPP. Although some of the dumplings are served every day at PPP, it really is best to go on weekends and particularly at the busiest times, as the manager told us that the more crowded they are, the higher the selection of items. With one exception, the dishes were hot and fresh. Plus there is a nice selection of large plates with fare like clams in black bean sauce, sauteed spinach, etc.

                3. Sage a must and skip the "tasting" at Raku. Long and too many dishes you say "it was good but I would'nt have it again". Not to mention expensive (did the "grand" one and if I remember correctly it was $150. True some unusual (and good) items, just not worth it.

                  TACOS EL GORDO a MUST!!!!!!

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                  1. re: LVI

                    Just did Sage last night, very pleasant if not earth-shattering. Interesting that they were serving pretty much exclusively from the bar area as they must have been short-staffed for the slow week between holidays. (Not a complaint - we like eating at the bar) Foie gras brulee alone was worth a visit and the cocktails (sazerac for me) were very well done too.

                    Thanks for the Tacos el Gordo tip. Is the location on the Strip north of the Wynn open for lunch?

                    1. re: Frodnesor

                      Sorry for the delay in answering. For some reason didn't see your reply. Yes it is open for lunch and I think 24hrs. Can't wait to go again!