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Nov 23, 2011 12:55 PM

Biodynamic and Natural Wines in LA

Hi -

I am visiting from NYC. There are many wine merchants there who sell biodynamic and natural wines.

Does anyone in LA sell such wines? If so, where?

E.g., of a vintner sold in major nyc wine stores: Thierry Puzelat.

Nothing here in LA, so far.


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  1. DomaineLA.

    to drink it "there": Lou's.

    1. Silver Lake Wines on Glendale Blvd. across from GingerGrass in the Silver Lake area.
      Many, many to choose from.
      Nicest people to do business with, btw!

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      1. I just did a search on Pro and there is not a single retailer in California, much less in Los Angeles, selling Thierry Puzelat. Bio and natural wines have not made the splash here that they have made in NYC. California wines are much more popular here, although bigger retailers like K&L will usually have a couple of imported natural wines in their inventory.

        P.S. I order almost all of my wine from NYC and have it shipped here. I like Uva in Brooklyn, PJ in Washington Heights and Astor and Chambers Street. We just don't have merchants like that here.

        By the way, Thierry Puzelat. is imported by Louis/Dressner Selections in NYC - :212.334.8191, one of my favorite importers. You can call them and see if they have any distribution of Thierry Los Angeles, but I doubt it if it is not showing up on Pro. Unfortunately, Louis/Dressner wines are hard to find in this town. The late Joe Dressner was a huge cheerleader for bio wines.

        P.S.S. I recently bought a bottle of biodynamic wine, ordered from NYC, to dinner and my dining companion, who is a big lover of California wines, took a couple of sips and then refused to drink it, saying it must have been damaged during the shipping from NYC. He refused to believe me when I told him it tasted exactly like it was supposed to taste. He may be the typical Los Angeles wine drinker, which may explain why it is not easy to find biodynamic wines in Los Angeles. People here seem to love highly manipulated wines.

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        1. re: omotosando

          I know the Louis/Dressner folks well. They supply my friend's restaurants.

          I am in LA looking for exactly that, and having difficulty finding it. BUT....

          THANK YOU THANK YOU to the folks who recommended Silverlake Wines. Excellent call!

          Silverlake Wine
          2395 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

          1. re: omotosando

            louis/dressner are folks i know. they supply my friend's restaurants... and i shop at astor and uva.

            just looking for something here in la.

            1. re: mns1172

              For the most part, you are probably better off in a restaurant. Osteria Mozza has biodynamic Italian wines on their list, including those of Arianna Occhipinti, who is represented by Louis/Dressner. Arianna says that Thierry Puzelat is one of her favorite winemakers.

              Osteria Mozza
              6602 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90036

            2. re: omotosando

              "Unfortunately, Louis/Dressner wines are hard to find in this town." You're not looking very hard. They're all over the place. Too bad you haven't bothered to seek out LDM wines in Los Angeles and pay shipping from NYC. I buy a lot of them, including Puzelat.

              1. re: choucroutegarni

                Not sure who all these "secret" merchants are who carry Louis/Dressner wines and who don't list their inventory on Pro, even though there is no charge for a merchant to list on the Pro version.

                Would love to find Olga Raffault Les Picasses (a Louis/Dressner wine) on the West Coast, much less in Los Angeles, but it's just not available to my knowledge.

                If a merchant isn't on Pro, they are not equipped for e-commerce and, if they are not equipped for e-commerce (unless they happen to be in my immediate neighborhood), I'm really not interested in doing business with them because driving 30 or 40 minutes in traffic just to browse at a wine store is not how I do my shopping. (Nor do I like to spend time on the telephone with clerks in retail stores asking them to recite their current inventory to me).

                At least with a place like K&L, which is not conveniently located to me, I can see online what they have in stock and then decide if I want to drive across town to pick it up. And, as someone mentioned, K&L will ship free to its Hollywood store from its Northern California locations.

            3. Palate in Glendale may have some things. At the least, they have definitely been carrying Jenny & Fran├žois's "From The Tank" (box wine). Agree with the suggestion to visit K&L; also, their website lets you filter for organic / biodynamic wines, and they can ship stuff down from the Bay area (for free) for will-call if you order online.

              For drinking rather than buying, check out Lou wine bar - they have an interesting selection, and tend to have a lot of natural wines on their list.

              There are definitely California producers who produce wines using some of these techniques (Coturri, for example, whatever you think of the wines or their rabid anti-added-sulfites stance). The style of the wines they make may not please terroirists like Alice Feiring, but there are definitely producers who are at least adopting certain farming and winemaking practices. I think as far as imported stuff, the importers tend to be different here, and many of the importers who are bringing in interesting natural wines seem to be based on the east coast (I've even done mail-order from shops there). I think the relative lack of recognizable importers who attach a label to the wine (like Louis Dressner, Jenny & Fran├žois, etc.) makes it harder to find these wines here even when they're out there, so asking around at the shop is another approach to take. I have heard good things about Kermit Lynch, a Bay-area based importer, but I don't think they feature exclusively natural wines.

              Some of it probably is just LA's culture; I think there is a little bit of a shift towards natural wines, lower alcohol, less oak, but not to the degree that there is in New York or even San Francisco.

              I have been to Silver Lake Wine a few times, but haven't really been able to get into it for some reason.

              1. Demetria Estates up in the Santa Ynez Valley practices biodynamic farming for some of their wines. You may be able to find it at some wine shops in the area, and Westside Tavern serves the Pantheon. I believe that is one of the biodynamically produced blends.

                Westside Tavern
                10850 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA