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What is a gammon joint?

michaelnrdx Nov 11, 2011 10:35 PM

I know this is a UK term. I'd like to know what cut is equivalent to the gammon joint. I saw on one other post that a picnic shoulder is the same thing. Can anyone else verify that?

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    jimant60 Feb 24, 2014 12:11 AM

    I worked in meat departments over the years in the U.S. From what I can determine here is that in the U.S. this cut would typically be labeled as a Smoked Ham, Shank Portion. Ham in the U.S. are usually of 2 different cuts. Butt Portion and Shank Portion.

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    1. re: jimant60
      Harters Feb 24, 2014 05:44 AM

      In the UK, a gammon joint may be smoked or unsmoked. As might gammon steaks.

      What differentiates it from ham is that, whilst both are cured, gammon needs to be cooked. Think of it exactly like bacon, but taken from the leg.

      1. re: Harters
        Puffin3 Feb 24, 2014 07:12 AM

        GR does a good job with a "gammon" on this vid. Watch part two also.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teAFQG...

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          Harters Feb 24, 2014 07:37 AM

          Pretty much how we'd treat the Christmas gammon, as well. We vary the glaze between sugar, honey and maple syrup but also mix in a sizeable dollop of mustard (cos ham has to have mustard). It does leave the most superb stock for soup.

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      Querencia Nov 13, 2011 03:31 PM

      Gammon is an old word for ham. You can see the connection in the French word for ham, jambon (soft j) or the Spanish word for ham, jamon (say the j like an h).

      1. EM23 Nov 12, 2011 11:09 AM

        It is a cured cut from the hind leg. It can be used in Ireland and the U.K. in a boiled dinner of bacon, cabbage and potato. My Mom called it "a joint", "a piece of bacon" or "boiling bacon" although boiling bacon isn't exclusively a gammon joint - confusing, I know. I'm not a butcher but I think this is what is called a ham shank in the U.S.

        This article from the Delia website discusses the issue of the incorrect use of "gammon" and "bacon joint" interchangebly. http://www.deliaonline.com/ingredients/ingredients-a-z/ingredients-a-c/Bacon--including-gammon.html

        And more here http://www.readersdigest.co.uk/food/1...

        Whatever it is called, it is delicious.

        1. Paprikaboy Nov 12, 2011 03:48 AM

          Gammon is made from the leg not the shoulder.
          I know US and UK terms and cuts are different.
          This is a helpful guide to UK pork cuts.


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          1. re: Paprikaboy
            michaelnrdx Nov 12, 2011 07:49 PM

            Anyone know how I can get a gammon joint in the US? What should I ask the butcher? Would any cured cut from the leg be equivalent?

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            janniecooks Nov 12, 2011 01:26 AM

            according to thepigsite.com (a website for the global pig industry) it is a ham joint which has been cured like bacon. It is different from a bacon joint in that it is a different cut, although a bacon joint can be used as a lower quality alternative. Gammon can be smoked or unsmoked. I don't think shoulder is typically used.

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