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Golds 99 essential restaurants 2011 up


And the award for Biggest Oversight goes to....

And the award for Least Deserving goes to....

The 99 are as follows

Angeli Caffe
Angelini Osteria
Antojitos Carmen
Border Grill
Bottega Louie
Bulgarini Gelato
Casa Bianca
Chang's Garden
Chichén Itzá
Chung King
Church & State
Comme Ça
Dae Bok
Din Tai Fung
Drago Centro
El Huarache Azteca
El Parian
Euro Pane Bakery
Fab Hot Dogs
Father's Office
Golden Deli
Golden State
Good Girl Dinette
The Gorbals
Hungry Cat
La Casita Mexicana
Lazy Ox Canteen
Le Comptoir
Little Dom's
Meals by Genet
Mother Dough
Musso & Frank Grill
Nem Nuong Khanh Hoa
Newport Tan Cang Seafood Restaurant
The Nickel
Night + Market
101 Noodle Express
Palate Food + Wine
Park's Barbecue
Pollos a la Brasa
Red Medicine
Rustic Canyon
Salt's Cure
Sapp Coffee Shop
Sea Harbour
Son of a Gun
Spice Table
Tacos Baja Ensenada
Tasting Kitchen
Tsujita L.A.
Waterloo & City

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  1. Least deserving Father's Office, the ultimate pretender.

    27 Replies
    1. re: scottca075

      imho, there are at least 5 or 6 "least deserving" restaurants on there.
      i believe that most of the people who participate on this board could do a better job of list assembly.
      tell me again why folks think he knows something special. . .

      1. re: westsidegal

        whether or not he "knows something special" is a subject of debate. whether or not he can express what he knows better than any of the people on this board, well, not so much.

        i have no doubt some of the posters here could list names of essential restaurants. whether or not i'd want to slog through that list and its justifications is another question entirely.

        1. re: westsidegal

          "tell me again why folks think he knows something special. . ."

          -because he has the ability to eat at most if not all the places in SoCal and can make judgements as he has tasted a whole lot of food
          -because he has real credibility (Pulitzer prize) where we hounds only have postcount credibility

          1. re: ns1

            a pulitzer prize speaks to his writing skill: not to his tasting skill.
            now, i am less and less inclined to respect his tasting skill.
            meh restaurants
            has-been restaurants
            nothing with nothing restaurants
            all showing up as "essential"?

            i didn't expect to agree with all his choices, but, i certainly didn't expect as many mediocre restaurants to be on the list.
            maybe it would have been a better list if he had narrowed it down to 80 "essential" restaurants. . . .

            1. re: westsidegal

              Basically, this is your opinion vs his opinion. Since he is a highly regarded food writer, I will obviously default to that vs some random individual on the internet

              that is not to say that i agree with his choices, but it's pretty obvious why people put him in high regard.

              1. re: ns1

                My opinion, and that of many others, is that J Gold is not a particularly highly regarded food writer. I am also waiting for the day that the media stops referring to him as "Pulitzer Prize winning Johnathan Gold". Yes he won the award in 2007, but it's not like he was knighted.

                1. re: downastro

                  I would love to see the culinary resume of hounds that do not regard J.Gold as a good food writer

                  As much as all of us would love to argue otherwise, we're just a bunch of anonymous foodies with blogs and high post counts

                  k, done with this thread now.

                  1. re: ns1

                    +1. In writing circles, Pulitzer Prize = knighthood. In food writing circles, Pulitzer = historical event. Why anyone would agree with every item on his or any other list baffles me. We are not sheep - we eat them.



                  2. re: downastro

                    One thing that draws me to j Gold's writing is that he writes not just about food, but also culture. If there's anyone who's more plugged in to the pulse of this city, I have yet to read his or her column.

            2. re: westsidegal

              WG, i can't believe you didn't list Mariscos Chente as biggest oversight!

              Mariscos Chente
              4532 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                I don't know if J Gold still reads CH (he used to read AND post -- e.g., see link below), but I suspect he feels a professional need to distance himself from CH. That may mean he doesn't even read anymore, or, if he does, to offer contrarian views early and often, and not be seen to be +1-ing CH favorites.

                (A post from J.Gold in 2001:

                1. re: Peripatetic

                  Ah, the early days, of both Chowhound and the Internet, when people didn't think about privacy and people freely posted under their own names. I think it's fair to assume that JGold continues to read these forums under a pseudonym. After all, we're his primary source of leads. (ZING! I keed! I keeeed!)

                  Mr Taster

                2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                  best not to get me started. . . . .

                  "essential" restaurants?!?

                  1. re: westsidegal

                    I'm no where near the writer or expert J.Gold is and I know it's always easier to criticize than to create...but I'm with you on this one.

                    For the life of me I can't imagine what Comme Ca contributes from a best perspective or an essential perspective or any perspective.

                    1. re: westsidegal

                      aaaand *there's* the indignation i was looking for ;)

                      1. re: westsidegal

                        Although I don't have a pulitzer, and I have a job which prevents me from eating at as many restaurants as J Gold, I agree with you westsidegal.

                        1. re: cls

                          thank you for the support!
                          a more accurate name for his list would be:

                          "List of Many of the LA Restaurants that People Have Heard About,"

                          1. re: westsidegal

                            why do you think they have heard about them?

                            you also might want to read the title of the list more carefully. as far as i can see, it's "Jonathan Gold's 99 Essential L.A. Restaurants 2011"

                            not "THE ABSOLUTE 99 essential l.a. restaurants 2011," not "God's 99 essential l.a. restaurants 2011," not, "THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT STATES THESE ARE 99 essential l.a. restaurants 2011."

                            also, you do realize since you, and many others, have read the list, and are talking about it, well, the terrorists have already won and all that...

                        2. re: westsidegal

                          I think his list tries to achieve several different and perhaps contradictory missions: 1) shout outs to old favorites where he feels comfortable year in and year out; 2) in a somewhat similar way, highlighting older places that have importance to him from an iconic or historical standpoint; 3) pointing out examples of as many different types of food as are available in an effort to get us to try something different on occasion; 4) offering his two cents on newer/edgier/trendy spots that have opened since the last list. So different spots are "essential" for different reasons: comfort, history, variety, cutting edge. I guess there's a certain culinary "political" correctness that has crept into the listings.

                          1. re: mc michael

                            what does "culinary 'political' correctness" mean, please?

                            1. re: linus

                              It's just a phrase I coined to summarize my thoughts about the list. See Mr. Taster's post about Gold's choices (below).

                              1. re: mc michael

                                o.k., but, no offense intended, what does the phrase mean? just trying to understand.
                                mr. taster's post doesn't help.

                                1. re: linus

                                  let's say a Martian restaurant opened. unless it was awful, chances are it would make the list so we would have that category of food covered. we'd be correct because Martian cuisine was included.

                                  1. re: mc michael

                                    thank you for taking time to explain.

                                    1. re: mc michael

                                      I have had Martian Food at Mars 2112 in NYC. It's an acquired taste.

                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                        Another example of East Coast hegemony.

                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                          Personally, I thought it was out of this world.

                      2. To include Border Grill, Street, Alcazar, Chang's Garden and Larkin just renders the list worthless.
                        JG just needed to fill column inches with this list.
                        Any list, when including higher priced and better restaurants, needs to also include Hatfield's, which of course was omitted.

                        Border Grill
                        1445 4th St., Santa Monica, CA 90401

                        Chang's Garden
                        627 W Duarte Rd, Arcadia, CA 91007

                        1. Fab's is on the list but not Brent's. That is a travesty.

                          1. Ricky's Fish tacos is so much better than TBE! 26 Beach for their Sushi Hamburgers, please!

                            26 Beach
                            3100 Washington Blvd., Venice, CA 90292

                            1. It's not as if he goes and eats the 99 restaurants every year in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't eaten at some of these in years and they had fallen off in terms of quality without his knowing.

                              It's by no means the quintessential list but its a good start.

                              1. Also, note that he doesn't call these the 99 *best* restaurants, just 99 *essential* restaurants.

                                1. Manhattan Beach Post and Brent's Deli both belong on this list.

                                  Brent's Deli
                                  19565 Parthenia St, Northridge, CA 91324

                                  Manhattan Beach Post
                                  1142 Manhattan Ave, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266

                                  1. Interesting:

                                    Only Kiriko among sushi bars is listed. No Mori or Urasawa? No Japanese restaurants at all otherwise. No love for Izakaya or ramen?

                                    No Dean Sin World? Elite? Artisan pizza joints beside Mozza?

                                    Urasawa Restaurant
                                    218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                    11301 W Olympic Blvd Ste 102, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                                    Dean Sin World
                                    306 N Garfield Ave # 2, Monterey Park, CA

                                    5 Replies
                                    1. re: Ogawak

                                      I've found dean sin world to be pretty average. I'd put J&J over din tai fung though. Isn't half the fun of these lists complaining about them?

                                      1. re: Ogawak

                                        He did add Mother Dought as far as the new wave of Pizza...


                                        1. re: Ogawak

                                          I think when you have to limit your list to 99, it's fair that there's only one spot for "artisan pizza". He also chose Sea Harbor over Elite-- not because I imagine he dislikes Elite, but because there's only so much room on the list. I can live with that. Chichén Itzá over Flor de Yucatan? Park's over Soot Bull Jeep? I can live with those too. I understand why those decisions were made.

                                          However, I'm not sure what rationale he could have used to leave Urasawa off. And although I'm okay with him leaving Dean Sin World off the list, how could he eliminate Shanghainese food entirely?! (Sorry, Din Tai Fung doesn't count... did you think you could kill two cuisines with one stone?) Shanghainese is cuisine that is so strongly represented in the San Gabriel Valley? That seems like a serious lapse in judgment. A well-made pork pump is, unquestionably, essential LA.

                                          Mr Taster

                                          Urasawa Restaurant
                                          218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                          Dean Sin World
                                          306 N Garfield Ave # 2, Monterey Park, CA

                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                            Chang's garden has plenty of shanghainese dishes.

                                            1. re: chezwhitey

                                              Ohhh that's right! I had forgotten... only visited once and tried the dongpo pork. Mea culpa, sorry Jgold!

                                              Mr Taster

                                        2. For my taste, the whole list is skewing too high-end.
                                          Inexcusable oversights: Carney's, Philippes, Original Tommy's.

                                          Undeserving: Musso and Frank, Tacos Baja Ensenada (RFT FTW!), Vincenti, Caffe Angeli, Fab Hot Dogs.

                                          Vincenti Restaurant
                                          11930 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

                                          Tacos Baja Ensenada
                                          385 W Whittier Blvd, Montebello, CA 90640

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                                          1. re: jesstifer

                                            "Inexcusable oversights: Carney's, Philippes, Original Tommy's. "

                                            No I'm pretty sure he got that right

                                            1. re: ns1

                                              If those three establishments were suddenly gone tomorrow, I wouldn't recognize L.A. It would have lost the best purveyors of three different iconic L.A. dishes: the chili cheese burger, the chili dog, and the French Dip.

                                              Street, Comme Ça, and Hungry Cat, to name three, are certainly better restaurants; but they are not "essential." Close tomorrow, and there would be shrugs all around.

                                              The Hungry Cat
                                              1535 Vine St, Los Angeles, CA 90028

                                              Comme Ça
                                              8479 Melrose Ave, West Hollywood, CA 90069

                                              1. re: jesstifer

                                                "t would have lost the best purveyors of three different iconic L.A. dishes: the chili cheese burger, the chili dog, and the French Dip. "

                                                and that is where we disagree.

                                                Tommy's chili = meh (and I've been to the OG Tommy's on Rampart enough times to know this) and Philippes French Dip is actually the worst beef french dip I've ever had. My employer commissary makes a much better version (to me), and the fact that Philippes is so polarizing on this very board should speak for itself.

                                                FWIW I've never considered a chili cheese burger as an iconic LA dish

                                                1. re: ns1

                                                  Reasonable people may disagree. Tommy's chili is not something I'd sit down and eat a bowl of, but is, IMHO, the perfect chili for a cheeseburger. The French Dip at Philippes that is "best in town" is the lamb, not the beef.

                                                  As for the CCB not being an iconic LA dish... I suppose someone without appreciation for Tommy's could assert such a thing. ;-)

                                                  1. re: jesstifer

                                                    "the French Dip at Philippes that is "best in town" is the lamb, not the beef. "

                                                    I think the lamb dip is okay, but too bad the beef dip is what most people get on their first time. and it's terrible.

                                                    1. re: jesstifer

                                                      I think the lamb is even worse than the beef, pretty bad

                                                      1. re: budlit

                                                        >>I think the lamb is even worse than the beef, pretty bad<<

                                                        you have a right to be wrong

                                                        1. re: scottca075

                                                          Ha! Wholeheartedly agree. I'll have to remember that line.

                                                          I've tried the beef twice, and visited with others who chose it over the lamb. All times the beef was dry, dry, dry. I've had off days with the lamb as well, but most of the time it's juicy and flavorful. I've also found that if the counter girls like you (and if you go at off-peak hours), they'll do a better job of carving.

                                                          Mr Taster

                                                  2. re: jesstifer

                                                    Well, Jay's Jayburger (R.I.P.) had a better chili cheese burger. Cole's has a better beef dip, etc. Chili dogs are pretty ubiquitous, but I prefer the bacon wrapped street dogs around town.
                                                    And I would really miss Hungry Cat, its seafood, its burger, its desserts, its fresh drinks.

                                                    The Hungry Cat
                                                    100 W Channel Rd, Santa Monica, CA 90402

                                                  3. re: ns1

                                                    "No I'm pretty sure he got that right"

                                                    No, he was wrong.

                                                    They are essential in the fabric of Los Angeles restaurants.

                                                    1. re: scottca075

                                                      I'm not going to argue with this with you again. I'm only going to let the polarizing nature of the restaurant in question speak for itself.

                                                      Potential diners can determine for themselves what they define as "essential"

                                                      1. re: ns1

                                                        Must be a Cal Bears thing. :-)

                                                        1. re: jesstifer

                                                          We seem to agree down the line, lamb double dip, Go Bears! :)

                                                  4. re: jesstifer

                                                    While I TOTALLYinclined to agree with you that Ricky's has the best Fish Taco, sadly he is not a restaurant and this is a list of restaurants. He also didn't include one of his favorite places, Lets Be Frank because again, it's not a restaurant...

                                                    1. re: Dommy

                                                      True. I wasn't suggesting that RFT should be on the list... it's just hard to argue that TBE is "essential" when there's a guy with a couple of tables and Easy-Ups doing better.

                                                    2. re: jesstifer

                                                      If you wanna go low end but not quite, I'd say the Cole's/Varnish duo is a pretty essential, downtown, late night spot.

                                                    3. Preliminarily (without reading his comments), i'd say Bottega Louie is the most undeserving. I also think Ray's is conceptually deserving but fails in the execution. Places that could have made the list include the new Sushi Ike, Green Street Tavern and Elite.

                                                      Green Street Tavern
                                                      69 W. Green Street, Pasadena, CA 91105

                                                      Bottega Louie
                                                      700 S Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90017

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                                                      1. re: mc michael

                                                        mc michael:
                                                        enthusiastically agree with you re: Bottega Louie.
                                                        Bottega Louie, imho, is COMPLETELY undeserving.
                                                        actually, probably i'm even more disdainful of it than you are!

                                                        1. re: mc michael

                                                          > i'd say Bottega Louie is the most undeserving


                                                          It's not good.
                                                          It's not characteristically LA.

                                                          1. re: Peripatetic

                                                            >>>It's not good...... It's not characteristically LA.<<<

                                                            It is good, not great and it is quintessentially emblematic of the "new" downtown.

                                                            1. re: scottca075

                                                              lots of other, better choices downtown. if this is downtown's emblem, DT is in trouble.

                                                              1. re: mc michael

                                                                >>>lots of other, better choices downtown. if this is downtown's emblem, DT is in trouble.<<<

                                                                Right, no one says that the "essential" restaurants are the best ones. Downtown is younger, louder and brasher than my father and grandfather's downtown, theirs is the downtown of the Jonathan Club and Pacific Dining Car not The Edison and Elevate.

                                                                Gold's list isn't meant to be the best, essential is quite different.

                                                                Pacific Dining Car
                                                                1310 W 6th St, Los Angeles, CA 90017

                                                              2. re: scottca075

                                                                my experiences at Bottega Louie resulted in my vow never to eat downtown again.

                                                                1. re: westsidegal

                                                                  wow, that's an overreaction. you are missing out.

                                                                  1. re: mc michael

                                                                    for the most part, i've found that being a "regular" at a restaurant is beneficial for all involved.
                                                                    they learn my tastes, the chefs feel free to experiment on me, i am treated like a member of the family, etc.

                                                                    to be a "regular" at any restaurant downtown would be plenty tough enough since i live and work near the beach.
                                                                    to go through meals like those served to me at Bottega Louie in order to discover what restaurants down there might be deserving of my business was just way too much. . . . . .

                                                                    i have a finite amount of time, money, gas, calorie consumption, and energy to expend on my restaurant addiction. given that reality, the Bottega Louie experience pushed me over the edge.

                                                                    It's not like there is a dearth of good restaurants on the westside.

                                                                    1. re: westsidegal

                                                                      Spice Table and LQ@SK are the two DTLA restaurants worth the trek.

                                                                      The Spice Table
                                                                      114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                                                                      1. re: Porthos

                                                                        I dunno if Spice Table is something that WSG would like as their dishes run on the heavy side, but I certainly adore Lazy Ox Canteen who is one of the places doing the most creative things with veggies. Also, I would head downtown just for Mexicali Taco Co. (which again wouldn't qualify for the list...)


                                                                        Lazy Ox Canteen
                                                                        241 S San Pedro St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

                                                                        The Spice Table
                                                                        114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                                                                        1. re: Dommy

                                                                          Been to Lazy Ox about 5-6 times for dinner and about 12 times for beer and snacks at the bar while waiting for friends who live at Sakura Crossing to get ready. Aside from the awesome pig ears, I find the food very mediocre. Dried chicken for two (at $40+ nonetheless), flavorless ribs, average grilled whole branzino, the ubiquitous radish and pickled onion side/salad...if you look carefully it's a very limited kitchen with limited cooking going on.

                                                                          Love the beer and pig ears at Lazy Ox, everything else is average in my experience. I feel WSG would definitely be pissed about travelling for that one.

                                                                          1. re: Porthos

                                                                            thank you Porthos for the heads-up.
                                                                            for beer-type beverages, i would rather get Alagash Black on tap at The Tripel (almost crawling distance to my house) along with some of their interesting small plates, or Old Rasputin on tap at the venice location of Wurshkuche (sp?) (about 11 minutes driving to my house) along with their vegetarian italian sausage.

                                                                            since i no longer eat meat, the pig's ears have no draw.

                                                                            also, my dining partner and i would not be incurring $15 of valet fees for our two cars just to walk in the door. . . .

                                                                            1. re: westsidegal

                                                                              since i no longer eat meat
                                                                              Really? Not even gormeh sabzi?

                                                                              I personally like Pranqster if I want something light. St Bernardus or Gouden Carolus Cuvee Van De Keizer if I want something darker.

                                                                              1. re: Porthos

                                                                                >>I personally like Pranqster if I want something light.<<

                                                                                Probably one of the most perfectly balanced beers.

                                                                                1. re: Porthos

                                                                                  shamshiri grill serves a vegetarian version of gourmeh sabzi that works for me.
                                                                                  they offer it both at dinnertime and as one of their unbelievably inexpensive "lunch specials."

                                                                                  next time i go to a gastropub, i'll ask for one of your "darker" selections.
                                                                                  thanks for the recs.

                                                                                  1. re: westsidegal

                                                                                    If you haven't tried Rochefort 10 from Belgium yet, you may like it quite a bit.
                                                                                    I refer to this beer as the "liquid chocolate brownie" of beers. Beware of the huge alcohol content.

                                                                                    1. re: Tripeler

                                                                                      THANKS for the rec.
                                                                                      definitely sounds like "my" kind of drink.

                                                                                      1. re: Tripeler

                                                                                        Yes. As a plus, it's quite widely available (e.g., at most Whole Foods).

                                                                            2. re: Porthos

                                                                              and Rivera. but I guess I'd be disappointed as well if I'd made the trek from the Westside to end up at Bottega Louie, which realistically is not a typical DT spot.

                                                                  2. Actually clicking through to the list and doing a little comparison to 2010... his intro is all about how he was hoping for more high end restaurants to emerge, so perhaps there's a little personal backlash bias against "street food."

                                                                    He also discusses why TBE made the list instead of Ricky's; not because it's just a table, apparently. I think Stingray Soup is the kicker.

                                                                    A couple of spots mentioned here, Hatfield's and (re: "no ramen?") Daikokuya, dropped off the list since 2010. I think almost more interesting than reading his reviews of restaurants we've seen a million times would be why a restaurant loses its spot.

                                                                    327 E 1st St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

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                                                                    1. re: jesstifer

                                                                      Or why Chego/A-frame are included, but Urasawa was dropped. (Pardon my cloudiness/bias, just watched "Jiro Dreams of Sushi" last night).

                                                                      per jesstifer, I'd like a whole column (perhaps the week following Essential 99) explaining the logic behind adds/drops.

                                                                      Urasawa Restaurant
                                                                      218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                                                      1. re: TonyC

                                                                        I agree. This is is just sad. It's a mixed up culinary world when Chego is more "essential" than Urasawa.

                                                                        Urasawa Restaurant
                                                                        218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                                                        3300 Overland Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90034

                                                                    2. I'm just thrilled he included Marouch. I've had so many great meals there, but it's usually almost empty. I don't want them to close!

                                                                      1. I think J. Gold must not be all that keen on seafood. That's the only explanation I can come up with for his leaving off so many good Japanese places (seriously--no Urasawa???), Water Grill, and Mariscos Chente.

                                                                        Water Grill
                                                                        544 South Grand, Los Angeles, CA 90071

                                                                        Urasawa Restaurant
                                                                        218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                                                        Mariscos Chente
                                                                        4532 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

                                                                        5 Replies
                                                                        1. re: sushigirlie

                                                                          Providence counts as seafood, no? While I like water grill as much as the next person, if you compare it to the high end seafood places on the east coast, it's just another restaurant. In addition, they have a new chef, the girl from top chef, so perhaps he has not eaten there since the chef change and cannot recommend it yet.

                                                                          1. re: chezwhitey

                                                                            She is not any longer at Water Grill.

                                                                          2. re: sushigirlie

                                                                            I'm thinking essential to Gold also includes an element of not completely outside the reach of most of his readers. And I think he knows that anyone who really is in to food in LA would be aware of Urasawa. So by taking it off the list, he gets to include one other more affordable place.
                                                                            He's certainly aware of Urasawa and of seafood. He used to eat at Masa when it was in a strip mall location as I recall.

                                                                            Urasawa Restaurant
                                                                            218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                                                            1. re: mc michael

                                                                              so are you saying he is "aware" of seafood, but hardly mentions it because seafood is "outside the reach of most of his readers?"

                                                                              if so, OMG

                                                                              1. re: westsidegal

                                                                                No, there are many seafood places on his list. i am saying Urasawa is outside the reach of many of his readers.

                                                                                Urasawa Restaurant
                                                                                218 N Rodeo Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                                                          3. Biggest Oversight goes to....urasawa

                                                                            Least deserving......border's grill

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                                                                            1. re: issey

                                                                              http://www.thedeliciouslife.com/jonat... That's a spreadsheet workup The Delicious Life did on Gold's 99. It shows that 28 restaurants are new to the list this year, only 5 of which had previously appeared. It also shows that only 22 places have been on the list since the beginning in 2005. Chowhounds love to disagree with critics (what is this list for), fair enough, but that rate of change says to me that Gold's list is not ossified old places. You might not agree with all the choices, that makes sense, but he's not just recycling the past.

                                                                            2. Anyone care to analyze the overlap between Gold's "essential 99" and Eater L.A.'s top 38?

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