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Nov 9, 2011 11:11 AM

SHORT ORDER opens Nov 18 at Farmers Market.

Saw a sign in the window yesterday.

Mr Taster

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  1. details on what this place is? never heard of them..

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      1. re: samtron608

        Burger joint, somehow associated with N. Silverton, conceived by a chef who recently passed away.

        Personally, I'd like to see a cafeteria style fight between Umami & SO after U opens. That'd be worth the parking atrocity at the FM.

        1. re: TonyC

          These guys are wimps! Check this out......A Chile Relleno Burger...............

          1. re: Burger Boy

            wow so umami is supposed to open up a huge space there..and now Short order. Would be interesting to see which burger joint wins the FM crowd...

            1. re: samtron608

              Umami will be in the Grove, Short Order in the Farmers Market and Mendocino Farms across the street. Nice.

              1. re: wienermobile

                Is that new Mendocino Farms opening in the new Gilmore Station, or are they making room for it in the Town & Country plaza with the Whole Foods?

                Mr Taster

                1. re: Mr Taster

                  It is my understanding that Mendocino Farms will be in a new building where Trader Joe's is going on the corner of 3rd and Fairfax.

                  1. re: wienermobile

                    That's the new Gilmore Station complex. Interesting to see the neighborhood getting some upgrades.

                    Mr Taster

          2. re: TonyC

            Park in the far lot (by the new building on the north end) and on the eastern side. If the two sides do an alternate merge to feed out, you will be in the shorter line.

            1. re: TonyC

              and Golden State just up the street- still top contender for #1

              The Golden State
              426 N. Fairfax Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90036

          3. After such a long wait I am really looking forward to this.

            1. Spent a good part of the day at the Farmer's Market / Grove today. Relatively quiet as Third Street and parts of fairfax were closed today.

              I stopped by Short Stop here about 2 dozen people were seated and mingling. Turns out it was some sort of private party although I was able to pick up a menu which was oddly not on the website

              Here's a sample:

              Short Order Burger $12.00
              Grass fed beef, morbier, grilled mushroom, bibb, mustardy mayo

              Ida's Old School Burger $10.00
              Grass fed beef, cheddar, pickles, tomato, grilled onion, iceberg, secret sauce

              Nancy's Backyard Burger $13.00
              Nancy Silverton's beef blend, artisan bacon, comte, avocado, tomato, onion, icebetg, spicy mayo

              Amy's Turkey Burger $12.00
              Organic turkey, sage cheddar, melted celery, leeks, spicy mayo

              Pork Burger
              Lamb Burger
              Tuna Burger
              Tuna Melt
              Patty Melt
              Grilled Cheese
              Corn Pups w Anson Mills corn batter
              Pretzel Pups w La Brea Bakery Pretzel Buns
              Wedge Salad
              Old School Fries
              Short Order Spuds w Dipping Sauce or Truffle Salt

              Custard Shakes Vanilla, Chocolate, Coffee Male
              All $6.00

              Announcing Weekend Brunch beginning 01/01/2012
              Benedict Burger $11.00
              Burger, fried egg, english muffin and hollandaise

              Many more things on the brunch menu.

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                1. re: maudies5

                  I'm already planning my first meal there: Nancy's Backyard Burger and potatoes. Anyone know what Short Order Spuds are?

                  1. re: SilverlakeGirl

                    I'm guessing Tater Tots as they are really getting a rival lately...


                    1. re: Dommy

                      Turns out they are the signature fry! Check out wienermobile's post below!


                      1. re: Dommy

                        Hey, thanks for pointing that out, Dommy. It took me awhile to spot it.

                        Sounds very promising. I'm always open to new ways with potatoes.

                    2. re: SilverlakeGirl

                      For those not familiar with the context of this, here's a (very) rough outline of the history of Short Order (and the "Nancy's Backyard Burger" name).

                      The LA Times visited Nancy Silverton's home and wrote about what a backyard BBQ at her home is like. Nancy shares her thoughts on what makes the perfect burger. You can read it here (recipe also):


                      The article was so popular that Huntington Meats (the 3rd/Fairfax Farmer's Market butcher referred to in the article as the source for her "special grind") started selling Nancy's blend by name in their glass case.

                      Fast forward several years. The markets collapse. Nancy purportedly lost a whole lot of money with the Madoff swindle. $10-$16 Fancy Burgers™ become super popular at places like Father's Office, Umami, etc. She identifies the market and capitalizes on the popularity of the LA Times article.

                      I remember hearing that this was not a concept she would have considered (semi-inexpensive chain food) in the early days, at the height of Expensive Fancy Food (La Brea Bakery, Campanile, Mozza). To be fair she does have a well deserved reputation for making very simple food well-- and then jacking up the price astronomically. But times being what they are, it's come down to selling $12 burgers.

                      Funny how it really was not long ago that Carl's Jr. introduced their $6 burger, which was meant to illustrate how their burger could stand up to a "restaurant quality" burger. Now a $6 price point is downright nostalgic.

                      Having said all of this, I am looking forward to trying her burgers-- I have no doubt they'll be great-- and am glad they will be a new option in the neighborhood.

                      Mr Taster

                      Father's Office
                      1018 Montana Ave, Santa Monica, CA 90403

                      Huntington Meats
                      6333 W 3rd St # 350, Los Angeles, CA

                      1. re: Mr Taster

                        One additional point of interest.

                        Huntington Meats told me hat Nancy's new burger is using a new blend that they developed specifically for the restaurant. Apparently they'll be changing the name of "Nancy Silverton's Blend" to something without her name associated with it.

                        Mr Taster

                        Huntington Meats
                        6333 W 3rd St # 350, Los Angeles, CA

                        1. re: Mr Taster

                          The fact that Nancy's burger uses iceberg REALLY freaks me out. Ditto to Amy [Pressman's] burger being made of turkey.

                          The eponymous burger sounds like every kind of win, though. Now, any tips on that f'd up parking situation?

                          1. re: TonyC

                            Why does it freak you out? I can definitely see how the fresh, clean, watery crunch of the iceberg would contrast nicely with the fat and squishiness of all the other items on the bun.

                            Mr Taster

                            1. re: Mr Taster

                              Yes, I agree. I like lettuce on my burgers to counteract the richness of other ingredients. Short Order's burgers sound more balanced than Umami's heavy greasefests

                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                Iceberg works with hamburgers at other places. I do remember Wolfgang Puck using romaine on his burgers at the Puck Cafes, just as good. I'm sure Nancy did a lot of homework in working on the burger formulas. I'll admit that I'm really anticipating another great burger joint!

                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                  Iceberg is THE lettuce for burgers. James Beard once wrote that if iceberg were hard to grow, hard to ship, and really expensive, it would be every "gourmet's" favorite! And I'm inclined to agree.

                                  1. re: Will Owen

                                    Good post.

                                    I am a fan of Iceberg. First off, my mother taught me how to chose it. Squeeze it. Get a heavy and solid head. Not one that is relatively light. This ensures that the leaves are tightly packed. This is so important.

                                    IIt is important that the leaves are very cold and very crinkled. No flat loose leaves! They will be discarded!

                                    Iceberg IMO provides textural contrast and temperature contrast. So important! No other lettuce can do this. Cold & crunch are imperative.

                                    As a side note, my own personal favorites are applied to burgers made at home. NEVER ketchup! And it is important to include a Kosher pickle sliced about 3/8 inch thick.

                                    1. re: SilverlakeGirl

                                      One of my first consciously taste-exploring experiences was consuming a leaf of iceberg very slowly, paying close attention to the contrasts between the softer green parts and the crisp, sweet white ribs. This was shortly after I discovered, while reading Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel tales, that in earlier times people ate lettuces as a safer way to quench one's thirst (being ignorant of the fact that vegetables grown in germ-infested water will carry the bacteria within them). I was very early a big fan of thirst-quenching vegetables, especially iceberg lettuce and cucumbers. Leaf lettuce certainly has its place: in the salad bowl, maybe on an egg salad sandwich, but not so much on a burger. It's too tough to the bite, and promotes slippage of patty onto one's lap.

                                      1. re: Will Owen

                                        So totally agree ...

                                        Snooping around the Internet, I see that today is indeed the debut day for lunch service. The fact that I am up at 3AM and get up to go to work 2 hours from now does not bode well however for how good I am going to feel after work, but ...

                                        Any Kevin Eats fans out there? A great review with close up photos, and cross section views here:


                                        I thought it interesting that Juliam Cox created the cocktail menu ... and that the custard malts will be available with alcohol soon!

                                        1. re: SilverlakeGirl

                                          Just came back from Short Order.


                                          I had Nancy's Burger and those INCREDIBLE Short Order Spuds. It's the BEST burger I've ever had. Everything meshes perfectly. The plates they serve with the burgers and fries are small, WARNING--be careful eating the burgers, they're so juicy they'll stain your shirt!

                                          And with the spuds, Nancy has reinvented french fries. The dipping sauce is a mix of sour cream, bacon bits and chives.

                                          The staff is very friendly. The only minus I found was that they had no diet sodas. And that's minor--they serve chilled water in old fashioned Ball Mason jars.

                                          Nancy could teach Wendy's what "Hot And Juicy" REALLY is!

                                          Will I be back? Oh, yeah! I'll be back!

                                          Short Order
                                          6333 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90036

                                2. re: TonyC

                                  Park by the Children's Place. Always spots. Free 3 hrs with validation.

                                  1. re: okayjackson

                                    Thanks for that. Honestly never thought about parking at CP, probably because the thought of walking from CP to Dupar's makes me tired...

                                    1. re: TonyC

                                      I think if walking the short distance from CP to DuPar's makes you tired, you probably should be walking even further! :)

                                      Mr Taster

                        2. re: SilverlakeGirl

                          Wow, that menu has me hungry on a Monday night. And I've got to wait FOUR DAYS to try it...

                        3. For anyone planning on checking out Short Order on the 18th, opening day ... they plan on opening at 5PM.

                          Late for me, but not impossible.


                          Short Order
                          6333 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90036

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                          1. re: SilverlakeGirl

                            oh, thanks.

                            so we don't happen to veer that way for a lunch.

                            i might have to give a couple weeeks to get up to speed though too.

                          2. So, who went to the soft opening last night? How was the insipid iceberg? Can ya taste the "wood burning" of that grill?

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                            1. re: TonyC

                              Tony, I'm curious too! When I went to the Grove this morning (Saturday 11/19), the sign indicated they would open at 5PM. Are they only going to be open in the evenings or are they still in the process of getting into full operation?

                              1. re: JosephEBacon

                                According to their website, their hours will be:

                                11a-11p weekdays
                                11a-1am weekends

                                Presumably "weekends" means Friday and Saturday, not Saturday and Sunday.


                                1. re: JosephEBacon

                                  They begin lunch service the day after Thanksgiving. Then they'll be open all day through the evening.

                                  1. re: perk

                                    Thanks. Now I got something to look forward to for lunch on Friday. I bet it will be packed!

                                    1. re: JosephEBacon

                                      Does it open tomorrow? Just in time for Black Friday.