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missclawdy Nov 6, 2011 09:02 AM

I have two fairly expensive digital instant-read thermometers and one that reads the temperature on a dial.

When the thermometers are inserted in the same area of a beef tenderloin , they all read differently - sometimes as much as 25 Farenheit degrees.

I do not normally use more than one thermometer (honest!) but I was curious one day and decided to compare readings.

This has made me very hesitant to rely on my thermometers and have gone back to using the finger touch to guage the cooking stage.

However, can anyone tell me if this is normal?

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    donaquixote Dec 9, 2011 01:28 PM

    I bought the Thermoworks RT600 thru Amazon and, despite being careful with on/off switch as recom. by viewers, it stopped working. I had it for 1.5 years and used it 3x during that time. Reviews on Amazon are mixed for the RT 600 and RT301WA so it seems some are good and some are lemons. I turned to reviews here hoping to find recom for good thermometer and looks like I need to spring for the Thermapen!

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    1. re: donaquixote
      missclawdy Jan 3, 2012 12:19 PM

      Think that is the route I will take. Thanks - the last thing I want is another faulty yhermometer!

    2. paulj Nov 8, 2011 09:05 AM

      In the beef case I wonder whether the thermometers were really in the same area, or more importantly at the same depth. A boil water (or ice water) test is better in that you can make sure the tips are at the same point.

      Sensitivity and stabilizing time is also important. Generally a narrower probe reacts more quickly.

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        Chemicalkinetics Nov 8, 2011 09:16 AM

        A two-points check is important. Preferable a ice water to boiling water or a room temperature to boiling water. These will bracket the operational temperature range. A single point alone can be problematic.

        One can also check the sensitvity and stability by testing the probe in a bath of boiling water.

        1. re: Chemicalkinetics
          missclawdy Nov 8, 2011 09:29 AM

          Thank you - I'm feeling much more comfortable.

          Miss C

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        rasputina Nov 6, 2011 08:58 PM

        I don't know I have a thermapen and it has worked great they claim to be accurate by less than one degree. Off by 25 degrees is just completely unacceptable for a thermometer.

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        1. re: rasputina
          dcrb Nov 6, 2011 09:26 PM

          Thanks rasputina. 25 degrees on the wrong side of chicken and the meal is going to be memorable for one reason or another.

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            caliking Nov 7, 2011 12:04 AM

            Get the Thermoworks RT600c from Amazon and you're done. For $25 its an awesome thermometer. I bought one after becoming annoyed and frustrated with inaccurate thermometers. Its much chaeper than a Thermopen, and its waterproof - you can stick it in the dishwasher to check the wash temp.

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              dcrb Nov 7, 2011 06:04 AM

              Sounds great. Thanks.

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          knifesavers Nov 6, 2011 08:25 PM

          I stick with the dial ones that can be calibrated. Set them to 212 in boiling water and 32 in a glass of a crushed ice/ water mush.

          Jim

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          1. re: knifesavers
            dcrb Nov 6, 2011 09:29 PM

            Hi,

            Do you have a particular brand that you like and use? Thanks.

            1. re: knifesavers
              dcrb Nov 6, 2011 09:30 PM

              Do you have a particular brand that you use and recommend? Thanks.

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                knifesavers Nov 6, 2011 10:10 PM

                I have CDNs from a long time ago. Today I would get this one.

                http://www.amazon.com/IRXL220-ProAccu...

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                  dcrb Nov 7, 2011 05:14 PM

                  Thanks. I will check it out.

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              kaleokahu Nov 6, 2011 08:22 PM

              Hi, missclawdry:

              The tests that other posters have suggested might work, then again they might not. One thing to consider is from where, *on the probe*, the thermometer is getting its reading. Some are designed and made so that they register from the tip, others register what amounts to the average temperature along the probe. If your two instant-read thermometers are different in this regard, they may pass the "room" and "boiling" tests and still not be the same *in* foods. If this is the explanation, they can be off by your 25F, and this would indeed be normal, if perplexing.

              IMO, the ones that read from the tip are the ones to have.

              Aloha,
              Kaleo

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              1. re: kaleokahu
                missclawdy Nov 7, 2011 07:24 AM

                kaleokahu - good morning (at least it is here)

                Thank you so much for your reply - one question though - how do I tell where the reading is obtained? (Hope that question isn't too stupid).

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                  kaleokahu Nov 7, 2011 11:15 AM

                  Hi, missclawdy:

                  Not a stupid question at all. I'm not sure how to answer you definitively. I would start by asking the *manufacturers* (not the retailer). As another poster here has said, some probes have a dot or crenellation, but I wouldn't necessarily take that as Gospel, either.

                  I know that Thermapen has a reduced-diameter tippy-tip, which looks to me to be the business end (the rest, in a much wider diameter, appears to be insulated/isolated against "averaging").

                  Finally, I think you may find this link informative if you want to read up:

                  http://www.thermoworks.com/learning/

                  Have Fun.

                  Aloha,

                  Kaleo

                  1. re: kaleokahu
                    missclawdy Nov 8, 2011 08:05 AM

                    I have contacted Thermoworks and they do ship to Canada and quite reasonably

                    I have also made a request to follow you - I enjoy the way you write

                    Thank you again for taking the time to help

                    Miss C.

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                freia Nov 6, 2011 05:27 PM

                Ok this is going to sound funny but to test mine, I could do the water thing but that means all that boiling and so on and it is the usual way to check out a thermometer. But what I do is really quick and easy... I just take my own temperature with it. Pop it in my mouth and hold it under my tongue. I know what body temperature is supposed to be (98.7F) and is really consistent. You can do this quickly with both thermometers, see if the two are comparable, and go from there. I'd keep only one that I was most comfortable with and was most accurate. Then I'd just notice the internal temperature of the next beef tenderloin as per that thermometer vs the doneness of the tenderloin. This will give you the relative temperature reading to note in the future. So if you see that medium done is reading at X degrees, that's what you cook to.
                Thermometers are really variable with respect to their accuracy and unfortunately price isn't necessarily a guarantee of accuracy.
                :)

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                  dcrb Nov 6, 2011 06:49 PM

                  I am getting a couple of thermapens for family this Christmas. Cooks Illustrated rates them highest. Anyone in chow land have hands-on experience with them? Thanks in advance.

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                    bbqJohn Nov 7, 2011 06:16 PM

                    cdrb.. I have had mine for several years.... many people ask to borrow it on the job or calibrate their dial analog thermometer with my Thermapen.. I have had mine dropped in a bbq pit and dipped in an ice bath.. with the ice bath I took it apart and dried it out... to sumarize they are accurate, reliable, and tough even if abused.

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                      BigE Nov 8, 2011 08:36 AM

                      I bought a Thermapen a year or so back and couldn't be happier. Every now and then, I will put it in a pot of boiling water just to make sure it still reads right and its always been 210-212F. That's good enough for me.

                      1. re: BigE
                        missclawdy Nov 8, 2011 09:05 AM

                        Thanks

                        I found out they will deliver to Canada so i am all set.
                        Have a nice day

                2. todao Nov 6, 2011 10:07 AM

                  The only thing I have add is that not all thermometers work the same way. Some require only a shallow probe insertion, others require that the probe be inserted to a specific depth (usually indicated by a dimple or other physical feature on the side of the probe). If you're using hour thermometer in strict compliance with the manufacturer's instructions and still find them to be unreliable, then I'd suggest investing in a certified accurate model and throw the unreliable devices in the trash.

                  1. Chemicalkinetics Nov 6, 2011 09:16 AM

                    These thermometers are not meant to be extremely accurate anyway. I am not surprise if a thermometer is off by 25 Fahrenheit to be honest. You can always buy a more accurate thermometer, but that will cost more.

                    If you are interested, here is an easy test for you to play around. First, see if they both read the same at room temperature, assuming it can read room temperature. If not, something is wrong. Then, boil a pot of water and measure the water boiling point (while it is still boiling). Unless you live at very high attitude, water should boils around 100 degree Celsius or 212 degree Fahrenheit.

                    There are all sort of other want to gauge your thermometers but those will require more special materials or tools.

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