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Posts that say they don't want to mention a place they like, because they don't want it to get more crowded

nsxtasy Oct 23, 2011 01:56 PM

I'm sure most of us experienced Chowhounds hate when this situation comes up, because it's so diametrically opposite to the purpose of Chowhound, to help others discover the best chow.

My question is, does anybody have any suggestions on how to deal with this, other than pointing out how this is not in the spirit of Chowhound?

Here's the example, although I would prefer that others not post there to point this out, since I have already done so (no need to "pile on"): www.chow.com/topics/813610#6899549

  1. pdxgastro Oct 30, 2011 12:38 PM

    Then you get the other end of the spectrum: I just read a review of a new place opened by the chef/owner of a great fish restaurant THAT CLOSED. Beloved restaurant but nobody went to it. Maybe a Chowhound mention would have kept it open.

    1. k
      kaleokahu Oct 25, 2011 10:19 PM

      Hi, nsxtacy:

      LOL, you are on shaky Moderation ground here even *mentioning* this topic. I one had an OP pulled down simply for asking whether folks ever did this.

      Why this is such a taboo subject totally baffles me. It's not like it will *lead* to anything bad; I mean how far, really, can anyone take the "I've Got A Secret" thing? It's form-over-substance, ideological purity thing, IMHO.

      In fact, there's a good argument to be made that it HELPS CHers find good chow by being more inquisitive, sleuthy, appreciative, and a little less herd-like. Who knows, it might even be fun to figure out the secret!

      Why, really, would anyone *want* to be a doctrinaire killjoy?

      Aloha,
      Kaleo

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        Harters Oct 25, 2011 07:12 AM

        A post from someone who says they are not naming a place they like is a worthless post. But then, many people's posts do not directly contibute to the thread discussion. Just think of how many "me too" type posts you read.

        I find I'm able to read a thread and take from it what I need.

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        1. re: Harters
          nsxtasy Oct 25, 2011 07:20 AM

          Me too!

          :)

        2. k
          kerosundae Oct 25, 2011 07:06 AM

          these people are funny, because I always think that for the purpose of keeping a great place in business, one would want to tell as many people as possible.

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          1. re: kerosundae
            monavano Oct 25, 2011 07:16 AM

            Right, I want prosperity and longevity for the places I love. Having to reserve a table in advance or wait a bit beats them going out of business.
            It reminds me of my favorite hamburger place in the DC area. Most of you would know of it because Obama made a few famous visits to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA. Obama and Biden, Obama and the Russian president...
            Anyway, this very popular joint got crazy with crowds for almost a year, before it started to die down a tad. I still went and planned on being there off peak rush, but even if Ray's was very busy, I didn't mind waiting in line.
            Now it's calmed down again and of course, it still gets nuts at times, but less frequently.
            During the time that Ray's was slammed after the national exposure it gained, I still SHOUTED FROM THE ROOFTOPS that Ray's was great! I never kept it a secret yet talked about my favorite burger without giving credit where credit is due. Full disclosure all the way.

            1. re: monavano
              HillJ Oct 25, 2011 07:25 AM

              I'm with you on that monavano. Although to keep my CH account in good standing I refrain from any personal connection that might develop by becoming a frequent fan of a particular place. But offline man you can't keep me from sharing a fab new place with everyone. Word of mouth is the best way to keep a place open, able to afford quality ingredients and folks employed!

              1. re: HillJ
                monavano Oct 25, 2011 09:13 AM

                Is this due to a professional issue?

                1. re: monavano
                  HillJ Oct 25, 2011 09:29 AM

                  As much to do with professional contacts as the rules of CH regarding how one promotes regional restaurants and food pros.

              2. re: monavano
                Quine Oct 25, 2011 10:36 AM

                I agree, what's the stat, 2 of 3 places close within the first year? So way to go, don't tell folks how great a place is because you want it all to yourself. Idiots If it;s great tell people so the place will stay open.
                And if you want a place with great food that you can have all to yourself, fools, you all ready do, it's called your kitchen.

              3. re: kerosundae
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                sueatmo Oct 27, 2011 05:41 PM

                Agreed!

              4. viperlush Oct 25, 2011 06:49 AM

                I get wanting to keep a place (or recipe) "secret". But, why bother posting that you are? Just ignore the question. The mental image that I get is a little kid dancing around going "I've got a secret and I'm not going to tell you!"

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                1. re: viperlush
                  monavano Oct 25, 2011 06:54 AM

                  Yup. Nanny Nanny Boo Boo!! with thumbs in ears, fingers waggling and tongue sticking out. That whole "I know something you don't know" should be left on the playground, not brought to CH.

                  1. re: monavano
                    viperlush Oct 25, 2011 07:06 AM

                    Exactly the image I was picturing.

                2. HillJ Oct 24, 2011 05:52 PM

                  I found the whole idea confusing. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

                  1. MplsM ary Oct 23, 2011 03:42 PM

                    I think those kinds of posts should be deleted but I also think Chowhounds who believe their thumbs up vote for a restaurant will lead to a stampede of new patrons for said establishment have delusions of grandeur.

                    1. Servorg Oct 23, 2011 03:34 PM

                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/783079

                      1. monavano Oct 23, 2011 02:13 PM

                        I think gently reminding the offending poster (who will not divulge) that this is CH, not Oprah, might help them to understand that while CH is a great board, the effect will probably be minimal. If the restaurant has already been favorably mentioned in the media, then what's a few more eyeballs here on CH?
                        Also, the media-induced spike in patrons will most likely subside and the place will find it's normal pace over time. We're not here to promote restaurants, although that's a sequelae of a favorable mention at times. But c'mon, this board does not have that kind of power.
                        If that doesn't work, I would hope the moderators delete the thread or post if the establishment is not mentioned subsequently. Truly, it's a waste of time and a childish game that should not be tolerated or encouraged.

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