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NY'ers spending X-mas week in Santa Ynez and are starving already

fat parish Oct 22, 2011 02:50 PM

I have trolled the board and found some wonderful places in the Santa Barbara area. On my "maybe" list so far are:

Root 246
Cass House
Cold Springs Tavern
Grappolo
Super-Cuca's
Wine Cask
The Chase

We are not interested in super-fancy; just great food. We eat everything. Please let us know what absolutely not to miss (vinyards, restaurants anywhere within 30 miles of Santa Ynez) and what you feel is over-rated. (Cold Springs Tavern?)

Also, we have called around and almost every place is closed for Xmas dinner (on the 25th, not Xmas eve). Any ideas?

Thanks a million in advance. We're here for you when you come to NYC.

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Wine Cask
813 Anacapa Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93101

Cass House
222 N Ocean Ave, Cayucos, CA

Root 246
420 Alisal Road, Solvang, CA 93463

Grappolo
3687 Sagunto St, Santa Ynez, CA 93460

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  1. OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Oct 22, 2011 03:39 PM

    for christmas meals- check the site santabarbara.com/dining- they usually have a turkey day and xmas day list of who is open in Santa Barbara and the Valley as well.

    Los Alamos is a town 15 mintues north of the Valley via the 101- new to town is Bell Street Cafe - wine country to go food, Charlies for burgers, Twin Oaks for bbq and good hearty meals, Full of Life Flatbread for F S Su night meals- it is AWESOME and a not to miss place, and Cafe Quakenbush for nice lunches...a few wine tasting spots here and alot of gorgeous scenery.

    Santa Ynez- my favorite is always the Red Barn for steaks and drinks- Longhorn for breakfast. Vineyard House has its fans. Dos Carlitos for expensive (worth it) mexcian and fantastic tequila drinks- awesome happy hour & bar is always packed!

    Solvang has Cecco- wonderful italian and pizzas, Root 246 has its fans, and the walways popular Paulas Pancakes for breakfast...new to town is the Succulent Cafe- awesome deli/wine bar type food- def a place to get food to take tasting! Also worth noting is New Frontiers- a health food store with everything a person could spend a ton of $$$ on, including a deli that would WOW even a jaded foodie from New York! Worth stopping for sundries to fill your hotel fridge- or are you renting a place? El Rancho market has a fantastic deli also- including a sushi bar.

    Solvang has a ton of tasting rooms- visit one and ask for the pourers recs- usually your best bet- I like Tastes of the Valley- open later than most- Solvang rolls up the streets at 5pm- beware!

    I am sure you will get alot of responces- please include Ballard Inn as a place to enjoy a wonderful tasting and meal....hands down the best the Valley has to offer.

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    The Ballard Inn & Restaurant
    2436 Baseline Ave, Solvang, CA 93463

    Tastes of the Valleys
    1672 Mission Dr, Solvang, CA

    Root 246
    420 Alisal Road, Solvang, CA 93463

    Twin Oaks Restaurant
    645 Bell, Los Alamos, CA 93440

    Vineyard House Restaurant
    3631 Sagunto St, Santa Ynez, CA 93460

    Carlito's
    3544 Sagunto St, Santa Ynez, CA 93460

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    1. re: OldJalamaMama
      fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Oct 22, 2011 03:49 PM

      Fantastic recs, very excited!

      We are staying at our friend's house, though they won't be there. They are new to the area and aren't of much help yet on the food front. They do have a beautiful kitchen so if there are some nice grocery stores or farm stands nearby, I might even cook once or twice. We have 8 nights to plan for.

      Thank you!

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      glbtrtr RE: fat parish Oct 22, 2011 04:44 PM

      We went to the prix fixe New Years at Root 246 and have no intention of ever going back - I would scratch that one myself and add Mirabelle in Solvang or Ballard Inn Restaurant in Ballard, close to Los Olivos if you want a very special dining evening on the pricier end, but less than Root 246.

      Cold Springs Tavern was always our family pick for Thanksgiving due to its historic rustic cabin ambiance - reservations a must so I would try to pin those down now if you decide to do that in case they are still open on Christmas day.

      So yes, with the limitations on reservations your are already running into, maybe Root 246 might be your only choice since it supports a hotel and the Chumash casino -which actually is also a reasonable dining option and most likely would be open Christmas Day as well. http://www.santabarbara.com/dining/re... They have more casual dining as well and seem to make fairly good dining here a loss leader simpley to get people in to gamble. You can avoid all of that if you just go to the restaurants.

      Christmas time in Solvang is a natural because of all the twinkly lights and holida handicrafts. Good time to see it at its best even if you can't eat there. And a drive up to Madonna Inn is almost obligatory for over the top year round Christmas kitsch and frou frou but good solid American classics and also serves a large kitschy hotel operation so it might also be open for Christmas Day. A place we joke about for its over the top decor, but is an affectional landmark that still can brighten the spirits if you just accept good, home made style basics from another era. http://www.madonnainn.com/steakhouse.php

      Los Olivos Market on Highway 246 outside of Los Olivos is the specialty market in this area and also carrieds a lot of prepared foods as well when you don't want to cook. Paula's Pancakes in Beullton always gets a nod for breakfasts and I believe Danish abelskievers round pancakes.

      Certainly the drive all the way out to Rancho Sisquoc is worth it for the country scenery and even better if winter rains start greening it up. Wine is fine but these are not the SYV award winners you might also want to seek out. Picnic area and lovely outdoor tables available.

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      The Ballard Inn & Restaurant
      2436 Baseline Ave, Solvang, CA 93463

      Root 246
      420 Alisal Road, Solvang, CA 93463

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        fat parish RE: glbtrtr Oct 23, 2011 07:02 PM

        OMG--Madonna Inn looks like a blast and they are open Christmas for din! Thank you so much! Such great recs all around. Now I want to plan an extra week. Thank you again!

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          OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Oct 23, 2011 07:13 PM

          Madonna Inn - for us it means we are almost home. We love to eat at the circular copper bar on our way home from annual Yosemite visits. The food is good- and I imagine Christmas would be a perfect time to go! From Santa Ynez its a perfect 50 minute drive on the 101- as well as you could choose to stay there, or in Pismo, Avila or SLO.

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          Madonna Inn
          100 Madonna Road, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405

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            fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Oct 23, 2011 07:19 PM

            sounds great. i loved the photos on their site.

      2. Beach Chick RE: fat parish Oct 23, 2011 07:28 PM

        Great rec's from the beloved posters who really have steered you in the right direction.

        Cold Spring Tavern is a must but make reservation now..it's tiny and you don't want to be denied.
        The Chase in SB...gotta have the Calamari Picatta with side of Fettucine Alfredo..sublime!
        La Super Rica in SB for one of the best a taco shop has to offer.

        Have drinks at sunset at San Ysidro Ranch in Montecito at Stonehouse..
        Olive House in Solvang for great infused oils/olives..great for gifts.
        The Santa Barbara/Santa Ynez valley is one of the prettiest places and a great drive.

        Have a great time and report back!

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          fat parish RE: Beach Chick Oct 23, 2011 07:38 PM

          You guys are the best. We just booked Madonna Inn for Xmas din, now calling Cold Springs Tavern for the 26th. We plan to gain a pound a day. Thankfully, seems we can do some hiking in the area too.

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          Madonna Inn
          100 Madonna Road, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405

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            glbtrtr RE: fat parish Oct 23, 2011 08:49 PM

            Upper Oso trail out of Paradise Road heading east is my favorite hike to shed those holiday pounds. But even better is the boardwalk hike at Oso Flaco Lake out to the ocean and grand wild dunes. This used to be part of our regular trips to La Simpatia and their fabulous chile rellenos in Guadalupe which is now still closed unfortunately, but it you consider this Oso Flaco Lake hike you can also take some of the last peeks at the venerable Far Western Cafe before it too sadly closes. And who can dare mention Pismo Beach without me always chiming in "Mo's BBQ" and his Phithy Phil ribs with all the sides.

            Good for you to get the Madonna Inn reservation - I imagine those are had to come by - it is a one of a kind place - and it should be really festive for Christmas as you can tell it has a lot of fans and you know you are a regular if you go out of the way to use the bathroom - particularly the men's room - don't ask and I won't tell but be sure to "powder your nose" and send your hubbie in with a cell phone camera to get his out too. And please remember we are recommending this place for its zany atmosphere more than for its food - don't ask for anything too adventurous and you should do fine - retro dining classics.

            I always stop for the half BLT and chunky home made blue cheese dressing salad and apricot pie, if they have it. It is that sort of place in the Copper Cafe. It is a retro steak house fare for the main dining room. But it should be all twinkly light magic for some very fun memories when you are away from home for the holidays.

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            Madonna Inn
            100 Madonna Road, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405

            La Simpatia Cafe
            827 Guadalupe St, Guadalupe, CA 93434

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              fat parish RE: glbtrtr Oct 23, 2011 09:23 PM

              You've seriously helped me plan our whole trip, esp now with the hiking. Can't thank you all enough. Make sure you reach out when you come to NYC, if you ever do leave your paradise there. It looks beyond gorgeous.

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                glbtrtr RE: fat parish Oct 24, 2011 08:09 AM

                Thanks, but credit where credit due - I got many of these local tips from fellow Hounders myself - Toodie Jane particularly knows this area well along with Polar Bear and Old Jalamamama. I am only smart enough to know a good thing when it gets pointed out to me. I think you will have a fantastic trip because you have done your homework, have a great attitude and are going well beyond what a typical tourist sees on the surface. Now all we have to do is give you a string of 80 degree days with no fog. If you go to the very end of the Oso Flaco Lake trail you will be about as far away from NYC as you can get in the continental US - both literally and figuratively. Cheers and happy holidays - your only price is a full Chowound report when you get back.

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                  fat parish RE: glbtrtr Oct 24, 2011 03:48 PM

                  Credit all around! And even if you can't grant me perfect 80 degree days, I will happily bask in a single ray of sunshine that breaks through here and there. It'll surely be nicer than the weather here in Dec.

                  I feel like I may be pushing my luck here, but if you wanna throw your favorite vinyards at me, feel free.

                  A full report is absolutely forthcoming. I'll be looking forward to that! Thanks again!

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                Beach Chick RE: glbtrtr Oct 24, 2011 08:31 AM

                We used to always go to Madonna Inn when we were kids and after lunch, we'd go into the men's restroom to see the inside...WOW..
                Are you staying there too?

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                  fat parish RE: Beach Chick Oct 24, 2011 03:36 PM

                  No, we are staying at a friend's place in Santa Ynez. Just hubby and I (friends won't even be in town) who are from NYC and have never visited the area before. Since our CA trips usually involve work in LA or San Fran, you can imagine how excited we are to relax and enjoy it.

                  I am certainly not above peeking in the men's room :-) I'm sure they'll be as surprised as me...

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                    glbtrtr RE: fat parish Oct 24, 2011 06:38 PM

                    This part of the world is really special. It is not called Southern Calif or Northern California, but I heard it called The Platinum Coast to indicate it was one up better than anyplace calling itself the Gold Coast - less glittery, cool and smooth, very enduring. What I always find amazing is knowing that LA is trobbing away with all its crowds, traffic, smog and mega-million people just a few hours drive away beyond the hills. Yet in this part of California you feel and are millions of miles away from all that urban over-kill. Oooops, I guess that is what they call NYC too! But, you know what I mean. Former Big City Gurl myself, and it took two seconds to get used to the pace of life here primarily because if comes close to offering a Big City level of dining and entertainment but without the hype, lines, reservations, frou frou reviews and dead chefs after getting their stars yanked. We eat more than we dine here, but if you get lonesome for the real NYC thing, Julienne in Santa Barbara will be your place --but with out the lines, hype, coveted reservations or a bouncer that checks your custom made Gucci's first before your credit card..

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                      fat parish RE: glbtrtr Oct 24, 2011 06:58 PM

                      Custom made Gucci's are not our style at all. We are artists, not at all into that yucky B-N-T scene. We are happy to eat with no hype. Just good food.

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                        glbtrtr RE: fat parish Oct 24, 2011 07:39 PM

                        Artists? You just might want to leave a power of attorney behind in NYC so they can wrap up your life, feed the cat, and ship all your worldly belongings to your new CA zip code. You just might not want to leave. ;-)

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                          fat parish RE: glbtrtr Oct 24, 2011 08:45 PM

                          done.

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                            OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Oct 24, 2011 09:53 PM

                            what type of wine do you enjoy? are you familiar with our area's premier output? it was stated above that Rancho Sisquoc is a great place to visit and picnic, though not an award winner...TRUTH! But the wine they put out is great and though it might not be on the Wine Spectator Top 200- it makes for a wonderful addition to a meal and evening...please tell us what you like and maybe we can all steer you to a place you would enjoy- and I am crossing my fingers we get some of our famous perfect Dec weather for your trip!

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                              fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Oct 24, 2011 10:43 PM

                              We are not connoisseurs by any stretch but enjoy all kinds of wines, red and white. (this is a very sad answer, I know)

                              Seriously, we are open to anything in the area that you love (or like a lot) and that you feel is worth a try. Syrahs, Cabs, Chards etc...

                              Would love some sense of a little tour. Meaning, drive here and drink a little, then go 5 miles down the road and find next gorgeous vinyard etc...I don't think we'll go nuts with a million tastings, but would be interested to hear your top faves.

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                                glbtrtr RE: fat parish Nov 6, 2011 06:56 AM

                                Take a look at the website for "Far Out Wineries" which is on a beautiful country road route a little north of Santa Ynez outside of Paso Robles. If you take Peachy Canyon Road going west from Paso Robles (map) you will at times think you are driving the back roads of France. If recent rains have greened up the hills, you will think you have landed in the Emerald City of Oz. http://www.faroutwineries.com/

                                I recommend this if you want to "drink a little" and "drive a little" only because these are not crowded roads with a lot of other "drink and little" and "drive a little" traffic like the other more major SYV wineries attract trying to live out their "Sideways" movie fantasies, particularly on weekends. There are mini-van winery tours too. And if you really just want a nice drive and some nice wine, again the trip out to Rancho Sisquouc (Siss' - Qwock) gives you the best combo and if you bring a picnic lunch you can make a lovely event out of the journey and have some food in your stomach if there are any other wineries out that way you also want to sample.

                                BTW: we recently had dinner at the Madonna Inn (and a bottle of Rancho Sisquoc Cabernet) just to test it out for you and I will write a more indepth review later, but the very charming waitress said it gets very busy on Christmas Day so even with reservations you may have a wait as they try to turn over so many tables that day - the place will be very festive. And their Toffee Crunch Cake is worth the drive for the rest of us too. There is a steakhouse side of their menu (over-large and that strange butane flavor on them I run into at too many steak places (???) - like Hitching Post and Parkfield too), but their cowboy sized "appetizer" side of the menu looks like it might provide the saner approach to smaller sized dining options there. But for Christmas they have a wider holiday menu too - roast beef, ham and turkey as well.

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                                  glbtrtr RE: glbtrtr Nov 7, 2011 08:50 PM

                                  More on the Madonna - Rancho Sisquoc wine saga. The price for the bottle of RS Cabernet at the Madonna Inn restaurant was $28. The price for a similar bottle (not sure of similar vintage years) at the RS itself winery was $26 dollars.

                                  But at our local neighborhood liquor and specialty wine/beer store which is facing cheek by jowl competition with a new BevMo! outlet, the Rancho Sisquoc cab was only $14. Regardless, for dinner at Madonna Inn we thought this was a very nice, well priced bottle of wine. And even better priced just down the street from us too.

                                  I like the Rancho Sisquoc River Red blend myself that changes due to the wine master's intents but is a very pleasant and thrifty red. Not sure it shows up in restaurants but we always enjoy it when we visit the winery for tastings.

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                                  Madonna Inn
                                  100 Madonna Road, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405

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                            Beach Chick RE: glbtrtr Nov 6, 2011 07:50 AM

                            I think your on to something g..
                            I bet they move out here in a NY minute.

            2. perk RE: fat parish Nov 6, 2011 04:46 AM

              If you do a search for Central Coast wineries....I think you'll come up with lots of options.
              You've gotten lots of great recs here....but I would add the Hitching Post. It's a fun place with very good steaks. I really like Grappolo...I've been there lots of time and never had a bad meal.
              I have mixed feelings about Root 246. I've had good food there, but somehow it always disappoints. My friend sells olive oil on her ranch....and has daily tastings at her stand. It's Rancho Olivos....right across from Brander Winery. Stop by!

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              Hitching Post
              3325 Point Sal Rd, Casmalia, CA 93429

              Root 246
              420 Alisal Road, Solvang, CA 93463

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                OldJalamaMama RE: perk Nov 6, 2011 08:43 AM

                Besides Rancho Olivos- you can taste in Los Olivos- Global Gardens does oil & vinegar tasting (YUM), Arthur Earl in Los Olivos has a branch of Il Faustino in its tasting room- in Solvang there is Olive House with tasting of oils and olives!

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                  fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Nov 6, 2011 08:35 PM

                  i love you guys (and your coast). it's official. i might as well start packing.

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                    OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Dec 25, 2011 12:11 PM

                    Welcome! How are you enjoying the weather? Hope your Christmas meal goes well!

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                      glbtrtr RE: OldJalamaMama Dec 25, 2011 08:58 PM

                      I just stopped by the Madonna Inn on my way back from the Bay Area tonight and its Christmas Night crowd looked very merry and busy, with a very full parking lot. I had to have another piece of Toffee Cake, but at $7.50 a slice not sure I will keep up my insane craving for it again. Looking forward to the NYC visitor field report too.

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                glbtrtr RE: fat parish Dec 29, 2011 06:55 PM

                Hope you come back and report your finds and impressions. Maybe you are already back in NYC packing up and have your ISP turned off already? ;-)

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                  fat parish RE: glbtrtr Jan 27, 2012 01:34 PM

                  I am here now! We had to re-sched. Somebody pinch me, please. You guys are LUCKY! Woke up in Santa Ynez this morn (drove to farm in dark) and had no idea the paradise I'd wake up to. Jeez.. I'm here copying all of your amazing suggestions into an email so I can start eating (properly). Will report back fo' sho'!

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                    glbtrtr RE: fat parish Jan 27, 2012 01:46 PM

                    Great to hear from you. You developed a group of Chow fans who have been waiting since Christmas for your SYV dining reports. Bring 'em on!

                    (Yes, this is an exceptional bit of balmy weather we are all waking up to out here. Lucky you for the changed plans. It is still Christmas at the Madonna Inn -24/7! There toffee cake is still worth the drive but now you should have so many other dinner choices without having to work around a holiday.)

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                      fat parish RE: glbtrtr Jan 31, 2012 03:29 PM

                      Thank you! I am grabbing the scant internet connection in town for a hot minute to say hi and tell you how much we loved (so far):
                      Grappolo
                      Mattie's Tavern
                      Cold Springs Tavern (not the food, but the place was so special)
                      the farm market (sorry, blanking on name) in Los alamos (yum to their rotisserie chicken salad) near Quackenbush Cafe
                      and the great Mexican place in Santa Ynez.
                      Red Barn tonight for din, I think.
                      Will give a fuller report as soon as I'm back home over the weekend. Thanks to all for the fabulous suggestions. Also hiked upper Oso trail, fabulous, and going horseback riding at Oso Ranch on Thurs. HEAVEN, you lucky people, HEAVEN...

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                        glbtrtr RE: fat parish Jan 31, 2012 07:07 PM

                        Hope there is time for one big splurge at the Ballard Inn restaurant. And maybe another hike out the boardwalk to the roaring Pacifica Ocean at Oso Flaco Lake. Too bad the really great and funky La Simpatia is no longer open in nearby Guadalupe. Yes, agree Upper Oso is a favorite hike and can reveal some stunning wildflowers at certain times .The yellow mustards are out and the hills are green right now we we are in a good show-off state for out of towers. Don't know of anything to eat way out Paradise Road, except that closer in store that occasionally has live music near the entrance to San Marcos Pass.

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                      OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Jan 27, 2012 04:26 PM

                      Welcome to your re-sheduled vacation- if I didn't say it before...Succulent Cafe in Solvang is a must.

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                        fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Jan 31, 2012 03:29 PM

                        on the list!

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                          OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Jan 31, 2012 06:16 PM

                          Red Barn is my hands down favorite- good drinks, good food and good drinks ; - ).

                          Glad the weather has been on your side- Rancho Oso is in a wonderful location, can you tell us anything about it- they have a store/grill out there, no? Upper Oso is wonderful, isn't it?

                          So glad you are enjoying your visit.

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                            fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Feb 1, 2012 09:01 AM

                            LOVED Red Barn. I looked at hubby and said, "We're not in Kansas anymore." Seriously, nothing but imitators in NYC. This was the real deal and so far, my fave. I loved the prime rib (I am getting so fat) and their sweet pickles on the table. Perfect.
                            I missed the drinks in favor of wine, but I didn't read your post til just now. Have to go back for some vodka concoction.

                            Drove up to Rancho Oso the other day on way to hiking to take a peek, grab a flyer etc...Not sure whether they have a store, but there are def grills and even basic accommodations. Would prob be a fun place to stay for a night but we are situated on a gorgeous farm (no animals yet) surrounded by neighbors in every direction with horses (I snuck them a few apples) and goats and chickens. Yep, not in Kansas anymore.

                            So sad to leave tomorrow. But we'll be back in March for my bday. Already decided.

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                              OldJalamaMama RE: fat parish Feb 1, 2012 03:03 PM

                              Have you visited many wineries?

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                                fat parish RE: OldJalamaMama Feb 2, 2012 03:54 PM

                                A few. Biked to Rideau which was our fave so far.

                                Made it to Succulent yesterday for lunch. Truly fab, as you said it would be. They had a crabcake sandwich special that was delicious. Wish they were open for din. They're not, I don't think. Although...hmmm...

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                                  Beach Chick RE: fat parish Feb 2, 2012 04:56 PM

                                  Enjoy reading your food ventures...can't wait to try Red Barn.
                                  Are you having fun in our gorgeous California?

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                                    fat parish RE: Beach Chick Feb 3, 2012 09:54 PM

                                    We had the greatest trip there. Drove to LA last night (boohoo) and we're going back home Sun.

                                    Santa Ynez Valley is magical and magnificent. Aside from eating, my fondest memories are of walking around our "neighborhood" and feeding apples to the horses and rallying the goats for some baby carrots. I hoped the ranch owners would appreciate my giving them wholesome, organic produce only.

                                    We'll be back in March. I hear there's a bakery opening in Santa Ynez near the drugstore. PLEASE keep me in the loop on anything else! I can't thank you all enough for your generosity and exquisite taste. You enhanced our trip immeasurably!

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                                      fat parish RE: Beach Chick Feb 3, 2012 10:02 PM

                                      ps. perhaps you may appreciate that we tried to go to Longhorn for breakfast and, ummm, the server was quite brusque. we decided to leave and go to Burger Barn after she grunted it would "be a while" before she could bring menus. she would not make eye contact with us at all.

                                      we met some locals who laughed and said, "yeah, we know her. she's SO angry all the time and none of us know why. glad you didn't stay."

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                                        glbtrtr RE: fat parish Feb 3, 2012 10:48 PM

                                        Thank you for your reports and updates and putting Red Barn in the local Chowhound Hall of Fame. So pleased you enjoyed our quiet little part of the world ...... and most of all that you did not "starve" while you shared your time here! Happy travels and even LA with its multiple of micro-neighborhoods has its own worlds of culinary explorations worthy of many trips too. Best wishes, and boy, oh boy, do we now all have the best guides for our times in NYC (if we can ever muster ourselves to leave here) We will have to identify ourselves as the SYV outbackers or something if we ever show up on the NY Chow forum begging for those out of the way local spots too ...so we "don't starve" too.

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                                          fat parish RE: glbtrtr Feb 4, 2012 09:41 AM

                                          Done! We are pretty good (and eager) NYC guides, if I do say so myself....

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