50 of the world's best breakfast
- luckyfatima Oct 22, 2011 06:57 AM
This is listed further down in the thread but should be upfront. It seems this person lifted most of this from another site.without crediting it
50 of the World’s Best Breakfasts
This is dated Aug 28, 2011. The link in the OP is dated Oct 11, 2011
The link from August credits the photos and you can link to back stories and the blogger contacted each photographer to let them know of the use of the photos
I intended to post on the October link and call that person a plagerer and thief ... and on a site called "Design You Trust". I wouldn't trust that business on bit. However, they'd probably delete it. Instead I intend to notify whoever hosts that site and let them know about this. Will also contact the August site to let them know about this.Anything else that can be done? Any agency to contact?
In addition to finding the original site, huiray did some excellent sluething about the background to some of the photos which weren't even shot in the countries they propose to represent
Very cool. My challenge is to give tomorrow's duck hash more eye appeal. It gets crispy skin and a sunny side up on top, maybe a few mandarin orange segments and cherries?
The Bahamas breakfast at the very end looked like something I'd be all over..
Jumbo prawns over grits..sweet..
The first responder here in this thread (lemons) I think is perhaps a little too kind regarding the accuracy of the article.
One ought to read the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th and 8th comments in that article - and the responses* to those comments. Really, please do.
My eyebrows were falling off when I viewed the selections and the ridiculous or nonsensical accompanying blurb and/or claims for the b'fast featured for India, China, Malaysia, Thailand and to a slightly (but just slightly) lesser extent Vietnam, Philippines, Japan...essentially all the Asian countries. One might argue that the author just intended to show pretty pictures - but in that case, the ones for those countries look ugly, to me anyway, and not at all pretty.
Even the "American" breakfast is a somewhat 'specific' breakfast, IMO.
Also, mostly (by far) Western Hemisphere countries - not surprising, I suppose. Ugg, all that bread, bread, and more bread...and variations thereof.
Even the Wikipedia article on breakfasts is far more representative and more accurate of breakfasts in countries and regions around the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakfast I think folks should look at the Wiki article at the least before they jump to the wrong conclusions about what awaits you for breakfast in those - and other - countries.
* although noodles in soup is a common b'fast (but of course certainly not the only one) in various places in the Far East.
Well, even if it is stolen from another site, I think this is interesting in the discussions it generated about breakfasts around the world.
As a Polish-American, let me assure you salad never touches a breakfast plate. I mean, seriously ... lettuce during those cold, cold, Polish winters? And Romaine lettuce at that.
As an American-American ... muesli ... seriously? Never heard of it until two years ago. I guess they meant oatmeal or other cold cereal. These days it could just as well be a pastry from Starbucks or fast food sandwich. But I guess they mean great breakfast in each country ... still .. then some sort of hash brown or fried potato would need to be included.
Also, are you Alaskans really eating reindeer with you eggs daily?
Speaking of unknown food, there were lots of foods I learned about that I never saw mentioned before
- Halim (supposedly Iran ... add supposedly to the rest of this list)
- Baghir (Morocco)
- Oladi (Russia ... seriously ... Russia is Poland's "neighbor". Never heard of it)
- Pogácsa (Hungary ... well, MAYBE I recall a mention)
- Waakye (Ghana)
- Katogo (Uganda)
- Mangu (Dominican Republic)
it looses all credibility when i see 'traditional German breakfast'.
i think it's more like breakfast (food) around the world. some photos are okay, some are probably made with a cell phone.
typical Argentinian breakfast: real coffee and many medialunas! they are very small and coated with a sweet buttery glaze.
typical Tibetan breakfast: tsampa and an endless pot of yak butter tea
in Taiwan i saw some people eat braised pork knuckles for brekkie
The "Indian" breakfast is the least typical thing I have ever seen! "Rosemary potato"? "Veggie sausage"? And what the hell is "Indian tofu"? Paneer, or tofu bought in India?
At least the article acknowledged that there are regional breakfasts in India...something it ignores for most other countries. But my god, if you think something along those lines for an Indian breakfast, you would NOT be correct.
It doesn't inspire confidence when it lists hash browns as an ingredient in a full English breakfast.
Loved the pictures--thanks for sharing.
Thought this was funny, though:
"The famous American breakfast – home made thick pancakes with syrup and blueberries, topped off with a few rashers of bacon. Anyone not wishing for a coronary usually opts for a bowl of muesli, so I’m told. "
Ah, yes, typical American healthy breakfast of muesli. It's not easy to find a box of muesli at the grocery store.
Well, all very yummy looking pictures. I think they're more likely 50 of the world's best breakfasts found in an expensive eurocentric hotel.
The Hawaiian one looks great but the only tropical fruit appears to be a slice of papaya. Most times a papaya is sliced in half in Hawaii. And I don't know what's typical but my Japanese-American dad from Hawaii always seems to eat cold rice with eggs over easy and fried spam and sometimes a bit of natto.
The Vietnamese breakfast looks like Juk or Congee which is rice not semolina and I always thought it was more of a breakfast in parts of China.
Apparently this was also lifted almost verbatim from this: http://blog.hostelbookers.com/travel/... where the authoress commits most (if not all) of the ridiculous errors in what breakfast is in all those countries.
The author of THAT blog post, "Victoria", says this amidst her response to the comments (near the end): "I’m sorry if some of you feel the post is inaccurate, but someone somewhere had these meals for breakfast and in my research I thought they were ‘the best’. "
Wow. Just wow.
p.s. The comments on THAT (first posted) "article" were just as incredulous about the purported breakfasts assigned to the various countries.
Since the hostelbookers post properly includes the source for each image, you can get some of the backstory. For example the photographer of the Indian breakfast is quite clear that this was just what his Indo-American Mom made for breakfast that day in Pittsburgh:
That's really interesting. I read in the comments section all of the Indians who didn't like that this unusual breakfast was the "Indian breakfast." There could have been a million other things much more common than that.
I laughed out loud to read that the Pakistani breakfast of aloo paratha was described as "Indian flatbread."
Some of the info given below the photos is wrong, and most of it is simplistic and reductive of these complex cuisines, totally ignoring regionality and many other factors. I still enjoyed the pics, though.
Heh. To each his or her own, of course - but I myself still thought the pic for the "Chinese Breakfast" to be a picture of one of the ugliest bowls of noodles that I have seen.
p.s. "Chinese doughnuts" (the Vietnam picture) is "yow char kwai" or "you tiao" (see, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtiao). I would not normally think of it as "doughnuts".
The VN pic isn't even semolina (never heard of semolina in VN cuisine), it is just regular old congee aka chao in Vietnamese, I guess it is still a porridge but just rice.
I love ja liang or you tiao stuffed cheung fan, one of my fave items in dim sum.
Yep I am sure that there are many other weird and off descriptions that I can't catch because I don't know the cuisine well enough.
Yes, isn't it hysterical? ("Semolina porridge"!!)
OK, I had free time, and I was curious about where these pics were coming from, so...
As julesrules pointed out above, the hostelbookers post gives attribution to the pictures. That "Vietnamese breakfast" turns out to be from a place called Cafe Thu Thu in a suburb (Springvale) of Melbourne, Australia. http://www.flickr.com/photos/avlxyz/2...
Yet you would never gather that from reading the description on either hostelbookers or designyoutrust below the picture, which labels it "Breakfast in Vietnam".
The "Japanese breakfast" is from a place called Asatsuki/Satsuki in Malvern East, another suburb of Melbourne, Australia. Aussie chef, Japanese wife. http://www.flickr.com/photos/avlxyz/s... .
The "Chinese breakfast" did indeed come from a restaurant in Chongqing (http://www.flickr.com/photos/princero...) but the pic appears to have been taken by a Western tourist who has a very low opinion of Chinese breakfasts except those in Sichuan where he got his palate blasted by the "ma la" food. I guess he doesn't like dim sum, chook with all sorts of various savories, buns of all sorts, etc etc. Several commenters on the hostelbookers site all had serious issues with the purported "Chinese Breakfast" also.
The "Malaysian breakfast" was what a blogger had at a hotel in Kuala Lumpur where the "food sucked" except for the noodles (pictured) which she liked because it was a break from the other stuff and also reminded her of noodles she might get back home in the Philippines. (http://bigberto.blogspot.com/2008/04/... ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigberto...) I would *hardly* think that qualifies it as the representative, let alone "best", Malaysian breakfast. There is so, so much more delicious food to be had in Malaysia for breakfast.
The "Korean breakfast" is bibimbap, not normally eaten in Korea for b'fast - although traditionally folks there often eat rice w/ soup and/or banchan for b'fast (also pointed out by a commenter on designyoucantrust). In any case, that pic is of stuff **also** from a place in Melbourne, Australia. (!!) http://www.flickr.com/photos/avlxyz/1...
The "Breakfast in Pakistan" pic is not locatable at the cited source.
The "Breakfast in Mongolia" pic is cropped from this one - http://www.flickr.com/photos/clark/10... and the sequence of photos there (and the pic of the restaurant where the breakfast was eaten) indicate it was probably eaten in **China**, at the start of these folks' drive to Inner Mongolia. The blurb/caption for the picture on hostelbookers also bears little relation to what is pictured. Boiled mutton? Horsemeat? Uh, where in the picture are they shown?
I didn't look at the sources for any of the European or other b'fasts but I suspect there will be similar situations involved.
In general, folks on that site pointed out the inaccuracies for many of the assigned breakfasts. So - yes, some pretty pictures, but that's about it. It's also a little alarming to realize that the authoress of the hostelbookers post actually thought these were the *best* breakfasts of all those nations, in her view, as she said in her response to commenters there.
The unfortunate thing is that if you search for "World's best breakfasts" on Google the designyoucantrust post is at the TOP of the answer list followed at #2 by the hostelbookers post. Searching for "world's best breakfast" puts the hostelbookers post at #3. Folks who don't stop and consider or check the veracity of the posts (and that would be many ordinary folks) would then be seriously misled by what is presented in these two posts.
(hal2010 below called it 'internet filler'...)
Great sleuthing. I put your links at the top of the post. Somone who plageries like this should be called out for it, IMO.
I did some sluething on my areas of interest.
The Polish breakfast is from a restaurant in Ann Arbor Michegan reviewed by a local blogger
Looks pretty good. However the restaurant bills itself as "Fashioned after old-world Viennese cafes, Amadeus Restaurant offers a hearty menu of authentic, traditional and award-winning dishes from Central Europe (Poland, Hungary and Austria)" Since it is brunch it might explain those cabbage rolls ... but NEVER with eggs ... and green salad.
Still, close to what my Polish-American family might like for a Sunday breakfast .. though the "homemade" keilbasa .. never did it ... and neither did that restaurant.
The American Pancakes are from bloggers living in Korea, though they seem to be originally from Brooklyn
However, what was nice was that the person who actually did the photo compilation in August, seems to have taken the time to also notify each participant of using the photos (though not the correct way ... it was a case of it is easier to ask foregiveness, if necessary, than permission). See comments
The Canadian one with the pierogies really bugged me. It actually is a Canadian restaurant in Calgory call Nellies Cosmic Cafe. Sort of like a restaurant in the US that just happens to serve a dish from some other country.
It seems to be a local chain ... not one of the independants under the same name ... so ick.
Thanks for the kind words and the additional research. It does seem that the author(s) of the posts are more than a little cavalier about the accuracy of what one puts out there.
It seems especially odd with respect to the English-speaking "Western cuisine" side that the author of the hostelbookings post (a young English woman) would choose the post of an American/English couple in KOREA to represent an American breakfast! Let alone all the other stuff.
I'm sure folks could have a field day with speculations about what the current generation of people on the internet care about information integrity or thoughts about self-serving self-gratification or the taking of stuff without regard to originator attributes (including music piracy), but that is beyond the scope of this thread. :-)
BTW, rworange, - the hostelbookers poster did NOT leave that comment/belated thanks in many cases where she took the picture for her post.
A few other comments on more of the "breakfasts" (and with an eye on some of those dishes you mentioned not knowing anything about in your post upstream: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8135...) -
The "A Bahamas Breakfast" is a plate of grits with cheddar cheese topped with grilled shrimp served in Uptown Cafeteria in Minneapolis, Minnesota. (http://lolaredblog.com/2011/07/27/sea... ) Far, far away from (and much colder than) the Bahamas. The female fashion blogger who took the pic was looking for something approximating Soul Food and was, for that matter, imagining that grits and shrimp dish as reminiscent of Charleston, SC. Not the Bahamas, although Gullah culture and Bahamian culture do share roots. That Minneapolis cafeteria also appears to be a grab-bag of all sorts of cuisine, with a stated aim of serving food without any "concept", just whether it was delicious (in their view). http://www.uptowncafeteria.com/about.php A cursory look at their menu does show it to consist of random stuff from all over the place. Interestingly also, one commenter (one Allison Makera Middleton) on the designyoutrust post said this: "Well I've been Bahamian my entire life and I have never seen or heard of #47".
The "Breakfast in the Dominican Republic" is a curiosity. It was made as a CUBAN variation by a Young Urban Cuban American in Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas for DINNER (http://www.theyucadiaries.com/2010/02... ) where she made Chicken Ropa Vieja (the stuff on top in the pic of the dish) which is already different from typical Ropa Vieja which is made with beef flank. Then, rather than accompanying it with fried plaintains (which would have been typical in Cuba) she called her friend and asked how to make Mangu instead - and she altered the traditional Mangu recipe her friend gave her. So - the dish as shown is neither traditional Dominican nor traditional Cuban; certainly another dish that was not cooked and photographed in the country it purports to represent; and only one component of that dish could be said to be Dominican in inspiration. (Ropa Vieja or its equivalent is found in various Central American/Caribbean places: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropa_vieja)
"Breakfast in Costa Rica" appears to be legitimate. It was taken by one Arvindgrover, currently living in New York, NY, on a trip to Costa Rica in 2010. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arvindgr...) Gallo pinto also appears to be a traditional dish of Costa Rica and Nicaragua. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo_pinto)
"A Turkish Breakfast" also appears to be legit. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pocketcu...) There is also what looks like menemen being served (left side of photo). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_... ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menemen_...
"Breakfast in Ghana" is a pic of what does seem to be Ghanaian food (http://www.africanfoods.co.uk/waakye....), but appears to have been served to a group of guys in NYC at a place called "Papaye" and they seem to have had it for dinner [look at the time stamp of the 'bill' they got]:
However, the description on the hostelbookers post omits any mention of the goat stew and spicy black sauce (both *prominent* in the pic) on top of the actual waakye and blocking one's view of it. One also notes that "waakye" is basically boiled beans and rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_and...), which is not exactly specific to Ghana; it's just that the version called "waakye" is eaten in Ghana (cooked with some sort of leaf in some renditions I’ve read; e.g. see: http://www.myrecipepages.com/2011/01/...), and what you get in Ghana itself might be iffy: http://www.modernghana.com/news/10266...
As for Pogácsa being typically eaten for breakfast in Hungary - well, one commenter wrote (regarding the designyoutrust post): "I would change the Hungarian one to 'nearly never consist of pogácsa. I've never eaten pogácsa for breakfast. Not even with gulyás." The source for the pic makes no mention of breakfast: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35694730... while the Wikipedia article says that it is a popular snack food or meal item but also does not call it out as a breakfast item. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogácsa .
OK, time to do other things here. :-)
>>> BTW, rworange, - the hostelbookers poster did NOT leave that comment/belated thanks in many cases where she took the picture for her post
That's why I made the comment about asking forgiveness rather than permission.
The correct way to do this is contact people thru flickr email and ask for their permission.
That has happened to me a number of times which I find hilarious since I am such a horrible photographer. Sometimes they even send along a contract to agree that you release the right to use the photo ... only for that specific site ... and they will not reuse it.
My guess is the photos that don't have the note, were contacted by email and gave their permission. Those with the note, never responded so she took the photo and left the note. You have the right to restrict who uses your photo in Flickr, so the assumption would be it is up for public grabs.
On another subject, that must be why pogácsa seemed familiar. I think I heard of it ... who knows ... maybe even tried it ... but it didn't strike me as breakfast fare.
Well, I'm learning a lot about breakfast.
Well, one more that I just plumb forgot to mention in my previous posts above - that "Thailand's Breakfast Offering" in the articles.
It was a meal (one meal) eaten for breakfast by one "Kojach" at a hawker stall (ONE hawker stall) in Bangkok: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kojach/3... The photographer does not say it is found at stalls throughout Thailand, as the hostelbookers poster says in her legend for the pic. What is the basis for her claiming this?
In any case, b'fast in Thailand does indeed tend to resemble meals at other times of the day and at least she does say this - but the caption for the picture implies that this is what you would get for breakfast in Thailand, which is misleading if not quite true. If one were to focus on something that tends to be eaten for breakfast only it would be more likely to be stuff like congee (chok/jauk in Thailand) with or without a kind of doughnut, a kind of rice soup, or a kind of omelet with rice, chili sauce and cucumber, or Thai mini pancakes. (e.g. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_cui... ; http://www.thailandbreeze.com/traditi...)
What bothers me at bottom about the hostelbookers and (plagiarized) designyoutrust posts is that they are so cavalier about the subject matter, so flippant without regard to both provenance and truthfulness of the dishes as pictured and assigned as the "best" breakfasts [see their Titles] found in those respective countries.**
**Note: for example, "Breakfast in India" means a meal eaten for breakfast IN India, not an 'Indian-type' breakfast eaten somewhere else. Etc etc.
LOL, those noodles were probably the least appetizing picture. And, I rarely get noodles for breakfast when I have Chinese, usually rice porridge (plain, not jook) in homes. I do love those crullers wrapped in pastry w/ hot soy milk, or same crullers wrapped in sticky rice w/ dried pork and pickles. Oh, and, scallion pancakes. Those are more common to me than noodles. I love breakfast.
I don't think the author has been within 1000 miles of India. Or maybe they only ate at Taj Hotels?
More internet filler....