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samthechef Oct 17, 2011 01:21 PM

Made a big old bean soup yesterday. Tastes better today. But why? Surely there's a simple explanation as to why virtually all soups, stews, and tomato based sauces are better the second day. What happened overnight to the molecules? Somehow this even sounds backwards as yesterday the kitchen was filled with the heady smells of onions and garlic browning, ham hocks a-stewing where as today it just smells like over cleaner. But the soup STILL tastes way better!

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  1. pinehurst RE: samthechef Oct 17, 2011 05:26 PM

    Sam, there is a decent explanation here:
    http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/blog/...
    I *love* second day food, including pastas, left over meats, everything. I remember a great joy from my parents' holiday party was the pickins the next day...which I joyously ate cold (not the soup, but pasta, kielbasa, little baby braciole).

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      Rheta RE: pinehurst Oct 18, 2011 11:47 AM

      I think chili is especially good the 2nd day.:-)

    2. eclecticsynergy RE: samthechef Oct 24, 2011 08:02 AM

      Yah, the 2nd day effect is soup & stew magic. Someone pointed out to me that one can even put this to work on the first day by refrigerating, then reheating a batch. Never would have occurred to me, but it's brilliant. Well worth the extra step.

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        cgarner RE: samthechef Oct 24, 2011 09:29 AM

        pinehurst, thanks for the link... something I never *really* thought about... the "why" of it
        I make an Italian "wedding" soup every year for Thanksgiving and I have to make it at least one night ahead of time, otherwise it just doesn't taste right to me.
        hmm, now I know why!

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          Spiritchaser RE: cgarner Oct 24, 2011 11:20 AM

          My mother, and then subsequently my sister, would make split pea soup from scratch whenever we had a bone in ham. Everyone in my family learned to not even bother going near it the day it was made because we would quietly wait for the overnight magic to happen, it was a completely different soup after sitting a day or two.

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            pinehurst RE: cgarner Oct 24, 2011 05:49 PM

            I have never had Italian wedding soup at T-Day, but I think it sounds FABULOUS. Rock on!

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              cgarner RE: pinehurst Oct 25, 2011 01:39 PM

              ... Thanksgiving was one of those "strange-american" holidays to my grandparents, they both moved here from Italy in their mid teens. When My grandfather arrived, his Dad picked him up in New York after inprocessing and told him he made it out just in time for the American holiday "Chicken Day"
              Thanksgiving menu at my Grandparents was Grandmom's Soup with the little meat balls, home made ravioli, and then you had your choice of meat balls sausage and roast turkey (no stuffing, that actually wasn't added till later in life) and then salad, and then fruit and then cannoli or Italian rum cake and coffee and some sambuca
              Grandmom knew it was supposed to be a 'feast' of some kind

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                Cheese Boy RE: cgarner Oct 26, 2011 09:20 PM

                I hope your nonna remembered the vino, finocchio, castagne, and the stack of briscola cards. Perfect feast day.

          2. letsindulge RE: samthechef Oct 24, 2011 11:18 AM

            I agree. Something I made recently that was delicious, but BETTER the next day. Wild Rice Gumbo soup (sans the oyster floater of course).

             
            1. Sooeygun RE: samthechef Oct 26, 2011 06:21 AM

              The only disagreement I have about 2nd day being better, is if you put noodles in the soup and let it cool. I find the noodles end up too mushy. If I'm making a noodle soup, I cook them separately in stock and then add them at the end of the re-heating. And then use the stock to thin the soup as it usually needs adjusting.

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                cgarner RE: Sooeygun Oct 26, 2011 07:21 AM

                +1 on the noodles... and rice unless you're looking for a porridge.

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                  huiray RE: Sooeygun Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8075...

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                    EM23 RE: Sooeygun Oct 27, 2011 09:04 AM

                    I forgot this rule the other day and put leftover chicken noodle in the fridge. The next day the liquid was almost gone and all that was left were engorged orzo.

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                      huiray RE: EM23 Oct 27, 2011 09:27 AM

                      Ditto anything else that will turn mushy or swell inordinately (AND turn mushy) when it is supposed to be crunchy or with some springiness (fresh vegetables meant to be crunchy, wontons, noodle/pasta additions, etc).

                  2. kaleokahu RE: samthechef Oct 27, 2011 09:22 AM

                    This will probably get me derisive responses from the bacteria-haters here, but I'm going to say it anyway:

                    IMO, 2nd Day Soup left overnight on the counter before reheating is even better than 2ndDS refrigerated and then reheated.

                    IMO2, if you eat/serve a lot of it, and if you mind what you're doing vis-a-vis topping and heating, there's no reason why you can't effectively have 30th day soup in a Magic Kitchen.

                    RIP, Sam F.

                    Aloha,
                    Kaleo

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                      huiray RE: kaleokahu Oct 27, 2011 09:38 AM

                      I've never refrigerated those of my soups/stews/braises that are expected to be better the second day. They are left on the stove top. Even my stocks. After the second day they may go into the fridge. Sometimes I've kept a pot of soup (with suitable constituents that do not suffer in texture/mouth feel with repeated reheating) on the stove top for days by, after taking what I want, later bringing it back to a hard boil for at least 5 min or more, then shutting off the heat and leaving it alone **without** opening the close-fitting lid - i.e. DONT open it after the hard boil.

                      Master stocks in various restaurants (such as some Chinese restaurants - in the East, for example) are kept going for long periods. Many days into weeks into...

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