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Luckydog Oct 17, 2011 11:59 AM

I know that the Au Bon pain stores in NYC are not certified kosher because of the food that is sold there, but anyone know about the pastries? I called the store and they said they are kosher, just the store is not.

Just curious if anyone has ever heard about anything being kosher at au Bon pain.

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    DeisCane RE: Luckydog Oct 17, 2011 12:12 PM

    The packaged jam is probably the only thing.

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      Luckydog RE: DeisCane Oct 17, 2011 12:16 PM

      thank you

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        GilaB RE: DeisCane Oct 17, 2011 12:20 PM

        And I see that you're doing the same search that I'm doing, because you got to the same (incorrect) Cha Cha answer that I did, and commented four minutes earlier :)

        The OU supervises exactly two of their industrial products, the bagel flour and the strawberry jam. I can't find any listing of any other supervision on anything of theirs. Did you ask for specifics of the person with whom you spoke? My guess is that they were (incorrectly) assuming that because the pastries don't contain any pork, they're kosher.

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          zsero RE: GilaB Oct 17, 2011 12:26 PM

          I wouldn't even assume that. What are the odds that the pastries are not made with lard?

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            GilaB RE: zsero Oct 17, 2011 12:53 PM

            I wouldn't assume that either, but I think that a minimum-wage cashier might make such an assumption, because it'd never occur to them.

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              DeisCane RE: zsero Oct 17, 2011 02:11 PM

              Though it's just an academic exercise, I'd venture to guess that very few, if any, US food chains use lard for their shortening purposes.

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                zsero RE: DeisCane Oct 18, 2011 05:10 AM

                Now that they're not allowed to use trans fats any more, what *do* they use?

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                  DeisCane RE: zsero Oct 18, 2011 05:38 AM

                  I'm sure there's an industrial version of crisco.

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                    zsero RE: DeisCane Oct 18, 2011 08:20 AM

                    Isn't that trans fat?

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                      barryg RE: zsero Oct 18, 2011 09:08 AM

                      It has small enough amounts that they can say it's 0g per serving under FDA guidelines.

                      Also coconut oil can be used as a substitute but that's too expensive for most operations.

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                        DeisCane RE: zsero Oct 18, 2011 10:32 AM

                        In 2007 or thereabout, Crisco switched all its products to (technically) trans-fat free.

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                  ferret RE: zsero Oct 17, 2011 02:25 PM

                  Aside from the fact that lard is not the only ingredient that would call kashrus into question, there's next to no chance of any of their products containing lard. Mexican bakeries on the other hand probably only use lard, but that's another story.

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                    SoCal Mother RE: ferret Oct 18, 2011 08:25 AM

                    The Bimbo (commercial) bakeries in Mexico (no jokes about the name, we've heard them all!) makes kosher products sold under the names Bimbo and Entenmann's. The bread is under the Star K and the pastries under the KMD.

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                      Prettypoodle RE: SoCal Mother Oct 18, 2011 08:31 AM

                      We LOVE the name here as they are the sponsors of our FANTASTIC Pro Soccer team the Philadelphia Union. You see shirts with Bimbo on them asll over. FWIW it is pronounced BEEEEEM Bo.:) ANd no i will NOT wear a Bimbo shirt, though I have a Union t with the team logo on the front:)

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                        SoCal Mother RE: Prettypoodle Oct 18, 2011 09:21 AM

                        Obviamente que se pronuncia Bimbo !!

                        PS You meant fĂștbol team, didn't you??

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                          Prettypoodle RE: SoCal Mother Oct 18, 2011 01:36 PM

                          I ment the ONLY team that seems to know how to win in Philadelphia. (I am still upset with my Phillies...GO RANGERS!)

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                            SoCal Mother RE: Prettypoodle Oct 18, 2011 04:34 PM

                            FĂștbol is Spanish for soccer. I get corrected all the time...

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                        ferret RE: SoCal Mother Oct 18, 2011 11:49 AM

                        I was referring to the Mexican mom-and pop bakeries, not the corporate overlords (and while Entenmann's is now part of Bimbo, it's hardly a Mexican baked good). For a culture with as rich a cuisine as Mexico has, their "pastries" tend to be sugar and lard-laden.

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                          SoCal Mother RE: ferret Oct 18, 2011 04:38 PM

                          After a good Mexican meal, who wants dessert? (Well me, actually, because I really dislike Mexican food except for quesadillas...)

                          Besides they put chocolate in their chicken (mole) and spices in their candy, so the distinction between dinner and dessert is kinda blurry.

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                kosherdoc RE: Luckydog Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM

                Actually you should check the original boxes that the pastries come in. A lot of them have a hecsher, chof-k, etc.... The only problem is that they place them in an oven with non-kosher items. But if you can get them in the box then you should be ok. At least that is the case in the hospital that I work in.

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