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Best place to eat in Hayes Valley, pre-symphony

ccberkeley Oct 13, 2011 09:35 PM

Hi Everyone: My parents are going to be in town in a few weeks. We have tickets to the symphony and would like to go to a nice place in Hayes Valley (or someplace nearby) beforehand. We have two vegetarians in our party, but don't necessarily need a veggie place as long as there are decent veggie options on the menu. What's your favorite place? Thanks!!

  1. chairbc Oct 18, 2011 03:51 PM

    Caffe Delle Stella has a number of non-meat pastas and other dishes--and salads and appetizers--on the menu and we have always had good pre-performance experiences there.

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      Josh90004 Oct 15, 2011 05:44 PM

      We like Canto do Brazil on Franklin. Not sure if it's 'nice' enough for your needs.

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        Windy Oct 15, 2011 06:17 PM

        What do you recommend ordering? I've always been curious but never eaten there.

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          Josh90004 Oct 15, 2011 07:13 PM

          The special stew (starts with an F) is really good, have had that several times. Have also had roast pork and roast chicken and both were good but not as good as the stew. My partner doesnt eat meat and has been pleased with the fish dishes.

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            Windy Oct 15, 2011 07:56 PM

            Thanks! (Presumably feijoada--will check it out.)

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            Robert Lauriston Oct 16, 2011 11:27 AM

            I haven't been in ages but the feijoada (Fridays and Saturdays only), couve, and coconut flan were always good. The caipirinhas are way too good.

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              Thomas Nash Oct 17, 2011 10:36 AM

              Boy, a couple of caipirinhas and a feijoada and you will really enjoy that symphony!

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                Windy Oct 17, 2011 10:38 AM

                Just what I was thinking. Don Giovanni + caipirinhas and coconut flan.

        2. grayelf Oct 15, 2011 02:02 PM

          Is the new Lers Ros in Hayes Valley open yet?

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            Robert Lauriston Oct 15, 2011 02:08 PM


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              grayelf Oct 15, 2011 02:23 PM

              Doh. Any word when?

              1. re: grayelf
                Robert Lauriston Oct 15, 2011 02:27 PM

                They hope to open by the end of the month, but the way things go in SF, I wouldn't make any plans on that basis.

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            vulber Oct 15, 2011 02:13 AM

            went to boxing room tonight and enjoyed it quite a bit. not quite as good (or as cheap) as angeline's, but still better than anywhere else in SF. the few veg. dishes they have, they do well.

            also strongly recommend ananda fuara, although no alcohol

            1. Windy Oct 14, 2011 04:29 PM

              Oddly Suppenkuche's a decent place for a vegetarian, although the meat dishes can be heavy before a long performance. The salads and potato pancakes are very good; haven't tried the portobello mushroom entree.

              My opera companion is a vegetarian, and he was happy at Paul K. Of course he was even happier at Ananda Fuara, which is nearby and is entirely vegetarian but of the coffee shop variety.

              I can't imagine going to Hayes Street Grill and not ordering fish.

              525 Laguna St, San Francisco, CA 94102

              Paul K Restaurant
              199 Gough St., San Francisco, CA 94102

              Hayes Street Grill
              324 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

              1. Robert Lauriston Oct 14, 2011 03:56 PM

                I'm pretty sure it was a vegetarian friend who told me to try Sauce, though their Web site doesn't make it look particularly veg-friendly.

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                  ccberkeley Oct 14, 2011 04:11 PM

                  Actually, I thought of Sauce too. We ate there quite a while ago. The menu is very meat heavy, but the chef made a special dish out of a combination of the available sides for my brother-in-law. He's tough to please, especially in meat-centric restaurants where he tends to get a bit put out. He loved the food he was prepared and loved that they were willing to take his dietary preferences/needs so seriously. I think the rest of us liked it as well, although I admit that I'm having trouble remembering what I ordered!

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                  mrs bacon Oct 14, 2011 03:15 PM

                  Hayes St. Grill for fish, Bar Jules, Absinthe (sitting in the bar is fun) and the new Boxing Room are all good. Caveat is that I know virtually nothing about vegetarian choices at any of these places (also Hayes St. would be perfect for a Pescetarian).

                  Bar Jules
                  609 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

                  Boxing Room
                  399 Grove St, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                    ccberkeley Oct 14, 2011 09:39 AM

                    Thanks for these suggestions! I have always wanted to go to Absinthe. My concern is that many of these places seem to only have a single veggie entree. This may pose a problem for the veggies in my family, as they prefer to have at least some choice. We do better with places with at least a couple veggie choices or a selection of vegetable sides that do not include fried, battered, or cheese-heavy options.

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                      mdg Oct 14, 2011 11:22 AM

                      Other fine pre-symphony places are Paul K and Indigo. I'm not sure about the extent of their vegetarian options but I'm pretty sure the menus are online.

                      Wherever you go, be sure you have a reservation because all the good places get totally packed before symphony.


                      Indigo Restaurant
                      687 McAllister St., San Francisco, CA 94102

                      Paul K Restaurant
                      199 Gough St., San Francisco, CA 94102

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                        SFDude Oct 17, 2011 11:38 AM

                        I would stay away from Indigo; they have been on auto-pilot for about a decade now and the food is really tired (and the wait staff too, judging from the service I got last time I was there).

                        Paul K' s would be a good choice; they always have at least one veggie entree and the appetizer selection leans towards Mediterranean veggie options.

                        Paul K Restaurant
                        199 Gough St., San Francisco, CA 94102

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                          escargot3 Oct 17, 2011 08:18 PM

                          A visit to Paul K's last year was really enjoyable. But it's been a while.

                          Paul K Restaurant
                          199 Gough St., San Francisco, CA 94102

                      2. re: ccberkeley
                        Robert Lauriston Oct 14, 2011 11:25 AM

                        Take a look at Paul K's menu.

                        Paul K Restaurant
                        199 Gough St., San Francisco, CA 94102

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                          chocolatetartguy Oct 14, 2011 12:03 PM

                          Have not been in years, but Hayes St. Grill used to have a composed salad plate with several different salady items.

                          I imagine that any place worth their salt, could whip up a simple non-meat pasta for you if you ask. I have done that before to accomodate a vegetarian friend at a group lunch.

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                            escargot3 Oct 17, 2011 08:20 PM

                            That salad compose was amazing...felt like a quick trip to Paris. But alas, it ended ages ago.

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                          Rapini Oct 14, 2011 09:15 AM

                          Hayes Street Grill is a traditional pre-performance spot; they show one vegetarian entrée on their website menu.
                          [I read recently that Bar Jules has changed its hours to accommodate pre-performance diners, but the posted menu didn't seem veggie friendly.]

                          Hayes Street Grill
                          324 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

                          Bar Jules
                          609 Hayes St, San Francisco, CA 94102

                          1. Paul H Oct 13, 2011 11:14 PM

                            The classic pre-Symphony dinner spots are Jardiniere and Absinthe.

                            300 Grove St., San Francisco, CA 94102

                            Absinthe Brasserie & Bar
                            398 Hayes Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                              emglow101 Oct 17, 2011 04:13 PM

                              What's up with the menu at Absinthe. I had lunch there yesterday. It does have a fine bar. On one side of the menu is the cheese menu. We ordered the three cheese plate. It was good , but way overpriced @ $ 24.00. And on the other side is just bar food. Burger, fries. etc.. Do you go for the drinks and forget the food ? Also the service is really scattered.

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                                Robert Lauriston Oct 17, 2011 04:24 PM

                                The bar menu's pretty limited compared with the dinner menu.


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                                  emglow101 Oct 17, 2011 05:24 PM

                                  Thank's,I'll take a look at the dinner menu.But i'm a little scared to go back. I think I will find a different choice when in the area.

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                                    Paul H Oct 18, 2011 01:00 PM

                                    "Cheap" and "pre-Symphony eating" are rarely found in the same paragraph.

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                                      Robert Lauriston Oct 18, 2011 01:11 PM

                                      There are cheap places to eat around there, e.g. Gyro King, Burmese Kitchen, Paxti's, Ananda Fuara.

                                      Absinthe's cheese-plate pricing seems eccentric to me: $9 for one cheese, $24 for three, $38 for five?

                                      Gyro King
                                      25 Grove St, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                                        Windy Oct 18, 2011 03:54 PM

                                        I haven't been to the new kabob place, but there are cheap eats (under $10 without drinks) in Hayes Valley.

                                        The foremost of them is Arlequin Cafe's garden, next to and owned by Absinthe. Solid salads, excellent lamb burger, very good chocolate chip cookie. Get your wines by the glass from the wine shop unless you want house wine.

                                        The Grove has opened a gorgeous outpost that's always packed. Actually their chocolate chip cookies are good too. Boulange is fine.

                                        Double-Decker has burgers and buffalo wings, with great happy hour prices; last year I watched the World Series there, along with a bunch of other opera goers.

                                        And there's always the cafe in the parking garage.

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