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Help please! Cropletzlach? Anything sound familiar?

smilingal Oct 12, 2011 06:53 PM

My grandmother, Hungarian, used to make a noodles and cabbage dish - yes, like bubble and squeak, and yes like Haluski(a)........but someone out there must have called it something similar to Cropletzlach??? I have no idea how it is spelled - I am doing it phonetically.

I just finished steaming and sauteeing the remnants of 3 heads of cabbage which I had used for stuffed cabbage last week and am feeling challenged to find some info about the name as I knew it.
I have googled etc. to no avail.

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  1. woodburner RE: smilingal Oct 12, 2011 07:02 PM



    1. Quine RE: smilingal Oct 12, 2011 07:12 PM

      Maybe this? Kaposzta Teszta?


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        smilingal RE: Quine Oct 12, 2011 07:19 PM

        nope - I came across that too - and sat here saying it out loud a few times thinking that maybe it took on a different aliteration (not the right use of the word - i know) - but that didn't work either.

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          Quine RE: smilingal Oct 12, 2011 07:28 PM

          Krautfleckerl- Hungarian Cabbage and Noodles?

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            smilingal RE: Quine Oct 12, 2011 07:32 PM

            sounds like......as I pull at my ear! Thanks but that's not it either! :(

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              Quine RE: smilingal Oct 13, 2011 01:42 PM

              LOL I really tried! I m of Polish and Czeck descent myself, so now I am jones'n for some cabbage and noodles myself and I have some good smoky bacon....thanks!

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        CookieLee RE: smilingal Oct 12, 2011 07:45 PM

        I don't have a name for it, other than sauteed cabbage with noodles. I have it in a cookbook that suggests it being served with "Klops" which is a meatloaf stuffed w. a hard boiled egg. I wonder if that's where your grandmother came up w. the name? In Hungarian, caraway seeds is köménymag. Ending a Yiddish word with "lach", could mean "a little" Anyway, here's the recipe for the cabbage & noodles.
        1 2lb green cabbage
        2 tbls kosher salt
        4 - 8 tbls shmaltz or margarine
        1/4 lb bowtie noodles
        1/4 tsp caraway seeds
        salt, freshly ground black pepper
        Remove the tough outer leaves of the cabbage, then halve and core it. Shred the cabbage and place it in a colander with the salt. Mix with your hands and let drain for 30 minutes.
        Heat 4 tbls shmaltz or margarine in a large skillet and add the cabbage. Cook over v. low heat for about 30 minutes, stirring from time to time, until the cabbage is v. soft and lightly colored. Add more fat if needed. ( I love that line!)
        While the cabbage is cooking, boil the noodles in a large quantity of salted water, 10 - 12 minutes, al dente. Drain.
        Add the noodles to the cabbage along with the caraway seeds, salt, pepper, and a pinch of sugar. Cover the pan and cook v. slowly for 10 - 15 minutes. Taste for seasoning & serve. Makes 6-8 servings.

        Hope this is a help!

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          lynncb RE: smilingal Oct 13, 2011 09:32 PM

          I know the dish as kraut pletzel, with the first word meaning cabbage and the second word yiddish/German? for anything made from dough (my family made their own noodles). The dish consisted of sauteed cabbage and onion mixed with cooked noodles. My mother grew up in the Carpathian Mountains region of Hungary/Czechoslovakia (now Ukraine).

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            CookieLee RE: lynncb Oct 14, 2011 12:12 PM

            I recognize pletzel, as a Yiddish word.

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              Quine RE: CookieLee Oct 14, 2011 02:22 PM

              Yeah! We're getting closer! Great puzzle, good crowd-sourcing.

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              smilingal RE: lynncb Oct 15, 2011 09:49 AM

              ahhh - so lynncb's spelling led me to The FOOD MAVEN's site where Arthur Schwartz makes reference to "Kraw Pleztla" - which is definitely getting even closer to my memory of the pronunciation! Now I am searching for his recipe but haven't yet found it.

              Found it!

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              smilingal RE: smilingal Oct 15, 2011 09:38 AM

              lynnecb - {{{{{{{ }}}}}}}}} (hugs!!) --- I think that probably is it! now I am going to google your spelling and see what I come up with.

              Thanks to all! Thanks for playing! Thanks for helping to put something to bed .....till the next challenge!

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                another_adam RE: smilingal Oct 15, 2011 01:48 PM

                It sounds like the above hints are mostly right on, but I bet the similarity with Yiddish 'pletzel' is a red herring, so to speak. It sounds a lot like Krautspätzle, which is evidently sometimes called kraupatze (or maybe also variants like kraupatzle or krauplatze?) in Hungarian. If that's right, the noodles are more closely related to spätzle than pletzel...


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                  peskin RE: smilingal Oct 18, 2011 09:29 AM

                  My father would make it, he'd call it Kro Pretzlach. I've heard other people call it Krau Pletzelach.

                  I make mine by cooking noodles, putting it aside. Then frying onion until translucent, then adding shredded cabbage, a bit of sugar, salt, and pepper, and then mixing it with the noodles. Yummy!!!

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                    smilingal RE: peskin Oct 18, 2011 09:55 AM

                    was your father Hungarian?

                    Each year after I make stuffed cabbage, I inevitably throw away the leftover heads, never getting around to using them. From here on after I will be yearly making Kro Pletzlach!

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                      peskin RE: smilingal Oct 18, 2011 09:57 AM

                      His grandmother, who he got the recipe from, was Hungarian. My father is a mixed breed of hungarian, polish, Czechoslovakian, etc...

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                        peskin RE: smilingal Oct 18, 2011 10:02 AM

                        Was your grandma Jewish? This could be the Jewish name, not the hungarian one...

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                          smilingal RE: peskin Oct 18, 2011 10:41 AM

                          yes she was Jewish hungarian.

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                          smilingal RE: smilingal Sep 27, 2012 07:01 PM

                          stuffed cabbage was a great hit again this year - and now - with the leftovers from the two heads of cabbage - it's Kropletzlach!

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                          lynncb RE: peskin Oct 18, 2011 10:58 AM

                          FYI, the kraut was pronounced "krote" by my yiddish-speaking family

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                          katg23 RE: smilingal Sep 24, 2012 07:21 PM

                          I, too, know this dish, and by the same name! My Mom and Grandmother have both made it, but I know it originally came from my great-great grandmother who came from Hungary in the mid to late 1880's. She, too, was Jewish. Caraway seeds were not used nor bowtie noodles but egg noodles. The key was squeezing all of the liquid from the cabbage before sauteing it with the onions, then mixing both with the noodles.

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                            bsalts RE: smilingal Nov 5, 2012 05:43 PM

                            kraut pletzlach - is the Yiddish word -and not the Hungarian one. káposzta tészta would be the Hungarian. I grew up with it as well, and only saw it on 1 menu in Hungary, and they tried to talk me out of ordering it - insisting I wouldn't like it - and of course we finished 2 orders. In Budapest it was more like a formed pancake almost fried in fat.

                            here is a video of someone making it. Lets see if it is like you are used to

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                              RosieKern RE: smilingal Dec 8, 2012 09:46 AM

                              Hi, I just signed up because I wanted to reply to your post. I grew up in Brooklyn and my grandmother was from Austrian Hungarian Empire. She died 3 weeks before I was born but taught my mother (from Cape Town SA) how to make was we also called "Cropletzlach". I searched the internet trying to find the correct name of this dish and I found it under Kraut-Pletzlach. It all made sense to me since it was cabbage and noodles and the german word for cabbage is Kraut! This is the ultimate jewish comfort food. My father passed away a year and a half ago and I used to make this for him, he just loved it! I still do and it always brings me back to my childhood and fond memories of my parents. I don't have children but will try to pass this recipe on to someone in my family. So google Kraut-Pletzlach and find out more about this staple of eastern european families. Happy Hanukkah!

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                                smilingal RE: RosieKern Dec 24, 2012 10:39 PM

                                Hi RosieKern, sorry but I just saw your post. A bit belated Happy Hanukkah! More timely Merry Christmas! :)
                                Yes, we are speaking of the same dish - glad it brought back those memories - memories need to be held dearly. Welcome to CH!

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                                whilehewasout RE: smilingal Apr 5, 2013 03:42 AM

                                Uh I know it's been posted a long ago but might be useful, Cropletzlach reminds me of Sztrapacska :) I believe originally from Slovakia, well known in Hungary as well - there are many versions one of them is made with cabbage, my mom's favorite! I've seen a few answers about a cabbage and pasta dish, we call it simply Káposztás tészta (cabbage with pasta, literally), basically sauteed cabbage with a bit of pepper and sugar, mixed with square pasta, delicious!

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