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Return of "Happy Hour"?

okra Oct 12, 2011 07:50 AM

re: "Senate votes on 'free drinks' at Mass. casinos"



I'm giving this a less than 50-50 chance of actually happening.... thoughts?

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    LStaff Oct 12, 2011 08:33 AM

    What would happy hour mean around here $5 pints instead of $7-8? ;-)

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    1. re: LStaff
      Taralli Oct 12, 2011 08:41 AM

      I remember 25 cent shots at Your Father's Mustache, but those days are long gone.

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        Science Chick Oct 12, 2011 08:43 AM

        In the old days, it was usually "two for one" for drinks, using nasty well liquors, though.

      2. CocoDan Oct 12, 2011 09:16 AM

        Won't happen!

        1. C. Hamster Oct 12, 2011 09:19 AM

          I spent my 21st Birthday at Mary Annes on 3 for 1 night. I think beers cost .50 or somthing

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          1. re: C. Hamster
            treb Oct 12, 2011 01:17 PM

            $.50 beers?? turn of the 19th century??

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              Kat Oct 12, 2011 01:31 PM

              Ha! I remember Mary Anne's. Went in there once in the early 90s with my BF and his friends and the entire place smelled like old, old, old vomit. Euw!

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                devilham Oct 12, 2011 05:37 PM

                I beg to differ Kat, as I was there in the 90's, and it smelled like pee. Most definately, pee.

                lol......place smelled freaking horrible, and the staff made it clear that they didn't want (me and my friend, very much NOT BU/BC students) there. Lovely time

            2. BobB Oct 12, 2011 09:20 AM

              The Senate tacked on this amendment allowing happy hours at regular bars as well as casinos, but the House did not. My guess is it will fall by the wayside in committee discussions, but this is MA, you never know what will happen behind closed doors.

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                typhoonfish Oct 12, 2011 09:50 AM

                Plenty of places still do it.

                $1 drafts until magically their kegs are out.

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                  DoubleMan Oct 12, 2011 10:31 AM

                  No place good, though. I'd love to see something like a limited cocktail and food menu from like 4-6 at Eastern Standard with $5 cocktails.

                  Eastern Standard
                  528 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA 02215

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                mats77 Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM

                In the lazy journalism/full disclosure dept: Chris Cassidy in today's Herald neglects to mention that the Senator who sponsored the amendment, Robert Hedlund, is an owner of Four Square, a restaurant/bar in Weymouth.

                1. Berheenia Oct 12, 2011 10:25 AM

                  A lot of people thought we'd never see liquor stores open on Sundays. I think it's just a matter of time. Maybe they'll let the individual towns decide. (I'm still annoyed that the state went after Groupon about 'discounts on alchohol')

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                  1. re: Berheenia
                    DoubleMan Oct 12, 2011 10:37 AM

                    This is a little different. We had happy hour until the late 80s when the legislature ended it in an attempt to reduce drunk driving deaths. The Sunday alcohol ban was way older and longer. If the happy hour prohibition experiment turned out to be a success and can be shown to have had a significant impact on drunk driving deaths, I'd forgo happy hour. I have a feeling it's had a negligible or at least limited impact, so I say "bring on the drink specials!"

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                      emannths Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM

                      There were a couple studies done on the effect of happy hour in Ontario, Canada. I believe the conclusion was that there was no evidence that banning happy hour correlated to better traffic safety (some studies show that alcohol consumption increased, but this didn't affect safety, according to the numbers).

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                        mkfisher Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM

                        Exactly. The happy hour ban was driven by MADD. It's foolish to think eliminating happy hour will prevent drunk driving, but my sense is groups like MADD hold a lot of sway in the state legislature.

                    2. Kirs Oct 12, 2011 11:49 AM

                      Not holding my breath on this one.

                      Massachusetts' alcohol laws are just ridiculous. I'm always reminded how much so when I go home to Denver and can have a drink on the patio (without ordering food) and can get two for one beers/drinks from 5-7.

                      1. typhoonfish Oct 12, 2011 12:06 PM

                        Anyone have an update on shipping wine to Massachusetts?

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                          Kirs Oct 12, 2011 12:12 PM

                          Still a no-go. Someone tries to get it through the legistlature each session but it gets nowhere despite the ruling that their ban is unlawful. Not sure what the hold up is, but I know bills have been submitted at least twice.

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                            DoubleMan Oct 12, 2011 12:44 PM

                            We have a very powerful, very crappy liquor distribution lobby here. Stink.

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                              yarm Oct 14, 2011 09:23 AM

                              We are still blessed compared to some states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Washington.


                        2. hiddenboston Oct 12, 2011 12:43 PM

                          I was just talking with Dave Andelman (he's heavily involved in this) and he said the language of the amendment doesn't say anything about happy hour or giving away drinks, it's simply about restaurants not getting treated worse than casino dining spots.

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                            okra Oct 12, 2011 01:10 PM

                            I read it as

                            if casinos get the ability to give away drinks

                            so should every other restaurant


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                              hiddenboston Oct 12, 2011 01:17 PM

                              That's how I initially read it as well, but he said no, don't expect restaurants across the state to start having happy hours.

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                            ItalyFan Oct 12, 2011 01:05 PM

                            While I personally would welcome Happy Hour, one must admit that, from a public policy point of view, inviting people to consume double the alcohol between 4-7 pm and then driving home doesn't make much sense.

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                              emannths Oct 12, 2011 01:39 PM

                              These's not much data on it, but the little that's out there suggests that happy hours do not lead to more drunk driving incidents. Those that are smart enough not to drink and drive aren't persuaded to do so by lower prices.

                              Of course, it's always been hard to get data, public policy, and politics together in the same room...

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