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Le Bernardin - am I the only one who thinks it is

overrated? I've been several times over the last several years, including a recent visit. I'm wondering if I'm the only person underwhelmed by their consistently bland preparation of fish. On that recent visit, a Chinese friend asked me why this restaurant is so well-known if they don't properly season their fish dishes. It made me wonder...

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Le Bernardin
155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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  1. You're probably not the only one, but you're certainly in the minority. Before returning again, pick up a copy of Ripert's "On the Line" and get a sense of the process he uses to prepare each dish. Underseasoned? I don't think so.

    1. I'm with you. So refined, it's vapor. Not to say there aren't some fine things on the menu, but never a place I'd chose to go unless dragged by friends. I liked it much better when La Coze was there, but that's a long time ago.

      1. I have not been there in many years for precisely this reason. Three tries and I gave up. Expect an army of posters along to basically call you an idiot, though..

        1. Last time I was there was between the Thansksgiving and X-mas Holidays a couple or so years ago.

          I vowed not to return.

          The place appears to have become a tourist and out of towners central, IMO. And these folks were loud, obnoxious and ill mannered in lacking consideration for the diners around them.

          Maybe because it was the festive season, but that loud environment killed it for me. Le Bernadin perhaps has become a victim of it's own success. And at one time while Gilbert La Coze <sp> was alive it was great.

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          1. re: Quimbombo

            Sorry, but your comment about this restaurant is because some people eating there were acting badly? What does this have to do with the food?

            1. re: Terrie H.

              When I go out to eat to a fine dining establishment I would like an **overall** pleasant experience.

              The food at Le Bernadin is good as is their service and place where we sat, however, when you have a boisterous crowd in the dining room with people acting badly and where at intervals you can't hear folks at your own table what they're saying that is not an **overall** pleasant experience, IMO.

              But that's just me.

              I offered my opinion at my last experience in this restaurant <which I've been to 5 or 6 x's prior including when it first opened> nothing more nothing less.

          2. Le Bernardin will always seem 'overrated' to me because I'm not a seafood man. My limitation also applies to the Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare. That said, it does seem to be the NY 4-star/3-star restaurant that's maintained its reputation for the longest period amongst critics and civilians. Sometimes I wish I enjoyed seafood more (it's one of several reasons I don't count myself a 'foodie')...

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            Le Bernardin
            155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019