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Okaaaaaaay, we get it. HOLIMA CHINESE FOODS really is the best chop suey delivery joint in west Scarborough

Googs Oct 7, 2011 06:42 AM

We've been practicing the definition of insanity, ordering Chinese food from many different places over and over again expecting different results. Well nothing's changed. Every time we do it, what gets delivered is Chinese food as bad as it was when we were kids in the suburbs. Cheap and massive quantites of greasy, flavourless, clumps using pet food grade meat and surprisingly crisp (hello, chemical additives) vegetables.

We're sorry Holima. Your (and now I know the term for it thanks to Charles Yu) wok hay tinged foods will be the only ones ordered from now on in.

http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?hl=e...

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Holima Chinese Foods
1734 Lawrence Ave E, Toronto, ON M1R 2Y2, CA

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    mrdtp Nov 21, 2012 06:54 PM

    Drove by today and the windows are all papered up?
    Is Holima finished?

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      Googs Nov 28, 2012 05:06 AM

      According to the outgoing message, the "New" Holima is closed for renovations and will reopen around Christmas time. Just in time for the Anti-Christmas sorts to get their fix. I hope "new" doesn't mean it was sold, but I fear so.

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        DUH CAR Jan 30, 2013 10:00 AM

        Was there today and they are working on it. A worker said it will be a new Chinese restaurant. Maybe another few weeks or a month to opening?

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          Googs Jan 30, 2013 10:21 AM

          If it's the same people running Holima from the pre-reno/post-original owners days, I'm way less than interested. The point was to have a good delivery place nearby. Those people weren't that. I've gotten to the point where I'm considering giving Bamboo Garden another shot even though they essentially delivered dog food to me twice over. If only Congee Queen delivered...

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            LTL Mar 11, 2013 12:12 PM

            Congee Wong is the best I've found for my area (Don Mills & Sheppard)

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              szw Mar 11, 2013 01:23 PM

              And they do delivery as well.

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                LTL Mar 12, 2013 08:56 AM

                Yep, sorry - meant to say best for Chinese food delivery in the area.

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                Googs Mar 12, 2013 12:39 PM

                Is your Congee Wong location Leslie & Finch?

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                  LTL Mar 14, 2013 08:27 AM

                  Yes. They deliver very quickly too - no long waits.

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              DUH CAR Feb 20, 2013 12:59 PM

              New sign is up. Place will be named:
              L's Chinese Eatery

              Looks very modern, but still paper on the windows. A few more weeks I'm guessing until they open.

              http://lschineseeatery.com/

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            Laurieifto Oct 23, 2012 12:46 PM

            Ok, so I had complained on here about them taking 2 hours to get our order to us...you all said strange, I'd try again...lol...I did, and it was THE WORST food I have ever had! As I said in my previous post, we used to order from them a lot and they were fantastic. NEVER AGAIN!

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              ctl98 Oct 23, 2012 04:24 PM

              Don't know if this is near your area but Congee Star on Eglinton and Don Mills does decent Chinese delivery. They are our go to Chinese delivery.

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                Laurieifto Oct 23, 2012 04:37 PM

                Thanks so much, I think we would be in their area. I was up that way the other day, I will have to go back and check it out!

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                Googs Oct 27, 2012 09:58 AM

                You know it still doesn't take any more than 30 to receive my order, usually less, and consistently so. I will say it feels as though there's been a management change and not for the better. They used to be super-fast, now a little slower. They always included 3 each of the 3 most popular tiny plastic packet sauces. No more. Oh you can ask for them, but they still won't show up. The pork was always overcooked and a little dry. We put up with that because we enjoyed everything else enough to overlook one minor flaw. Now everything is moist due in no small way to the overall greasiness of the food. I mean don't add oil to the frypan if you're reheating it at home level of grease. Worst of all, the Cantonese Chow Mein that once smelled and tasted of wok hay, lies flat and really needs to be sauced up.

                I guess I should consider myself lucky for a year-long run of good food. Now I'm looking for another chop suey delivery place. Sigh.

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                Laurieifto Jul 6, 2012 08:00 PM

                I ordered from HULIMA Chinese Foods, recommended here as a great noodle place in the area (Vic Park & Lawrence) and they took two hours to get here! I called at 1 hour and the girl said 15 more minutes, Called back after 20 minutes and she said it was still there but the delivery guy would be there shortly to bring it to us. I called again after 20 MORE minutes and asked again, she told me it was on it's way. I then asked her how long ago it had been prepared and she actually told me about an hour ago! So, while I was on the phone they buzzed up. Turns out the Driver was also the owner. We checked the order and it was soggy from sitting for so long. We told him and he just shrugged and took it and left. We used to order from them all the time, does anyone know if the ownership has changed or anything??

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                1. re: Laurieifto
                  Googs Jul 8, 2012 09:15 AM

                  There's no ownership change that I'm aware of.

                  That's a very weird experience you had. Every time we order, which is about once every two weeks, the food arrives by the time I've set the table and prepared cash for the delivery person. Something obviously went terribly wrong the night you ordered. I seriously doubt you could replicate it.

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                    justxpete Jul 8, 2012 03:48 PM

                    Sounds exactly like every time I've ordered from Orderit.ca. I wish I lived closer to this place - would def give it a try.

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                    LTL Oct 11, 2011 09:38 AM

                    Do you know if they deliver as far as Don Mills and Sheppard? I have been looking for a good Chinese delivery in the area for the last year or so and the only acceptable option I have found is Helena's. I used to be in the High Park area and miss Westwood Grill dearly!

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                      Googs Oct 12, 2011 06:40 AM

                      I know how you feel. I used to live in the Cork- Cabbagetown area and dearly miss my sweet, sweet Peking Express. Holima may not be PE, but it does alright by me.

                      I checked the menu and there's no delivery area described. They also don't have anything quite as 21st century as a website. I'm afraid you'll have to call and ask them. 416-759-1147

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                        LTL Oct 12, 2011 08:13 AM

                        Thanks, I will try that! And somehow track down a menu sans website...wish me luck :)

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                          Googs Oct 13, 2011 06:51 AM

                          Well my scanner at home is dead at the moment, so I can't really help with a menu. We didn't have one for our first order. We just asked if they had a couple of dishes we liked, they did, and the menu came with our delivery. Alternatively, if you want to tell me what some of your favourites are, I can always look them up for you.

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                            LTL Oct 13, 2011 09:21 AM

                            Thanks, Googs. My favs are sweet and sour soup, shanghai noodles, cantonese chow mein, beef tenderloin (preferably on a hot plate), salt and pepper shrimp, and a variety of chicken dishes. I'm sure they probably have these dishes as they are quite basic. Probably be easier and more helpful if you tell me what your favourites are :)

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                              Googs Oct 14, 2011 07:23 AM

                              Hot & Sour Soup $3.00

                              Shanghai Chow Mein $8.25 (vegetable $7.25)

                              Cantonese Chow Mein $8.50

                              I hear the shrimp with lobster sauce $10.00 is the shrimp dish to order, but I haven't tried it yet

                              Dunno about beef tenderloin.

                              Me, I'm pretty simple. I like the Bean Cake Village Style ($8.25), Kung Pao Chicken ($8.25), and the Cantonese Chow Mein. There are others, but those are the main ones.

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                      GlennScarborough Oct 10, 2011 01:13 PM

                      My parents would drive there in the 60's. Egg rolls, honey garlic ribs. I drive by regularly. Maybe I should try again. I'll skip the ribs tho.

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                        hungryabbey Oct 8, 2011 06:07 PM

                        its been our go-to order spot since we moved back to TO about 7 years ago. consistently good.

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                          toboggan3 Oct 7, 2011 12:08 PM

                          Wow, haven't even thought about Holima since I was a kid in the '70s. My parents would get Holima takeout about once a month as a Saturday night treat. Great memories. Now I want a big plate of Holima, egg roll and plum sauce, and watch Planet Of The Apes on the 26" colour TV!

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                            Googs Oct 7, 2011 12:54 PM

                            Ah yes, the Zenith 26" tv with an aerial on the roof for the finest reception!

                            You had it lucky, my friend, if Holima was your local. My local back then was almost enough to make me never eat Chinese again. Thank goodness things have improved greatly since. You gotta love this city.

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                              Sparky777 Oct 11, 2011 04:05 PM

                              Toboggan3, did you grow up in my house? We also ordered from Holima in the 70s as a Saturday night treat when I was a kid. Also whenever it was somebody's birthday. The deep-fried shrimp was my favourite. They were actually a pretty respectable size considering.

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                                toboggan3 Oct 11, 2011 09:32 PM

                                No, I would've remembered having a sibling named Sparky. : )

                                When I saw the word 'Holima' in the thread it was instant nostalgia. I think I will definitely head back to Scarborough and pick up some takeout very soon.

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                                madamemeowmeow Oct 12, 2011 04:47 PM

                                Ohmigosh! My folks used to order from Holima once a month on Saturday night! We would watch Bugs Bunny/Road Runner cartoons and eat off of trays in front of the tele; something we never did otherwise! Our favourites were mushroom fried rice, s&s chicken balls, vegetable chop suey, egg rolls and beef with broccoli. Oh how I miss Holima in Scarberia! Thanks for conjuring up some great foodie memories...

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                                Herne Oct 7, 2011 10:20 AM

                                I have loved Holima since the '80's and I suspect through 4-5 owners and same number of cooks--or maybe a lot more. Cantonese Chowmain being my favourite.

                                How did it go with Mr Bridges and the soda bread mix?

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                                  Googs Oct 7, 2011 12:52 PM

                                  That Cantonese Chow Mein is Beau's fave. We get that just about every time we order. I used to think it tasted of grill until I found out what wok hay was. The two have similar yummy results.

                                  We never did make it to that mall last weekend. Did you find what you were looking for?

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                                    Full tummy Oct 7, 2011 08:37 PM

                                    I like this Wok Hay thread:

                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/344167

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                                      syoung Oct 10, 2011 11:37 AM

                                      Thanks! That YouTube link from Cheongi shows wok hay at its finest! What I don't truly understand in Cantonese is "yeet hay".

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                                        T Long Oct 10, 2011 12:50 PM

                                        My simple and lay take on Yeet Hay (heat) from a food perspective is consuming too much fried/deep fried/roasted foods. Too much yeet hay and your face will break out and you will have bad breath. The yang in yin/yang. Watermelon is best example of a yin (cooling) food. A Chinese herbalist can go into much more detail.

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                                      Herne Oct 9, 2011 06:55 AM

                                      Holima was shut for a good few months before reopening. I'm surprised they managed to keep up the standards. During the past 5 years or so I have been going to the "real" Chinese places on Spadina near Dundas (Chinese girlfriend). But Holima is not far from my mind.

                                      I didn't get to Mrs Bishops to look for Soda bread mix either.

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                                        iMarilyn Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM

                                        What Spadina & Dundas spots do you consider "real"?

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                                          Herne Oct 11, 2011 05:21 AM

                                          E-Pan and The new Sky are very good and the Diamond now defunct was the best for years. Major tip off before you start to eat is a menu in Chinese. Usually has dishes not on the English menu--I'm told.

                                          Best food outside of the city core-in my opinion- is Congee Queen at Lawrence and Donway West.

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                                          E-Pan
                                          369 Spadina Ave, Toronto, ON M5T 2G3, CA

                                          Congee Queen
                                          895 Lawrence Ave E, Toronto, ON M3C3L2, CA

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