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BrettLove Oct 6, 2011 10:59 AM

Dear RI Chowhounds,
I will be coming to Providence soon with my Mom, and am looking for a fairly upscale place to celebrate her birthday within walking distance of the Biltmore. I don't drink, but Ma's good for a couple of Manhattans, and I'm hoping to keep dinner in the "$150 or less" range (hopefully including tip, but...). She's in her 60's & I'm in my 30's, so we're probably not looking for anyplace too hip or boisterous, and we would most likely prefer something Nouvelle American or French as opposed to Italian or Spanish/tapas. Mom'd be content doing McCormack & Schmick's, but if I'm picking up the tab I'd rather do something a bit less corporate and more locavore/organic (figuratively speaking, at least). For what it's worth, I live in the city (Boston) and dine out fairly often, Ma' is in the 'burbs and "doesn't get out much". I'm aware there was a vaguely (ok, very) similar post from someone in July, but thought my "situation" might elicit slightly different feedback. Thanks!

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McCormack's
312 Veazie St, Providence, RI 02904

Biltmore
475 W Todd St, Hamden, CT 06518

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    Gin n Tonic RE: BrettLove Oct 6, 2011 11:49 AM

    I think Gracie's fits all your requirements, and will be worlds better than any of the expense-account places around the hotel. You'll end up bumping up against your price range for sure. If you want to drop it down maybe a notch price-wise, but keep the other requirements, go to New Rivers. Both are easily walkable, although Gracie's is closer.

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      sakeandgin RE: BrettLove Oct 6, 2011 12:01 PM

      Cav is downtown and excellent for a mom meal www.cavrestaurant.com

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      14 Imperial Pl Unit 101, Providence, RI 02903

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        Frobisher RE: sakeandgin Oct 6, 2011 04:40 PM

        CAV is not downtown, it is in the Jewelry District. Probably a 20 minute walk from the Biltmore, through areas, which though not "bad" would be largely devoid of other pedestrians on an early Saturday eve. Therefore, setting aside whatever you think of CAV's food it is not easily walkable from the Biltmore for a suburban 60ish mom who doesn't get out much (which also describes my mom as well)

        I would vote New Rivers. The food is great. Slightly less expensive and "fancy" than Gracies. Also a little more intimate. It is my go to spot when my in laws are in town, who live in a suburb, don't get out much and are decidedly not foodies. While I love Gracies, it is just not them. Whereas, at New Rivers they don't feel out of place.

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          bawc RE: Frobisher Oct 7, 2011 06:42 AM

          My last two meals at New Rivers (the last one two weeks ago) were not up to par. While I like the restaurant, I find the food very uneven, sometimes excellent, often less so. I would vote for Gracie's which has been more consistent in the last year and a half.

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            Gin n Tonic RE: Frobisher Oct 7, 2011 09:13 AM

            Totally agree that walking from the Biltmore to CAV with a 60ish mom is not practical.

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              sakeandgin RE: Gin n Tonic Oct 7, 2011 10:10 AM

              The meal I had there was fantastic while visiting my son in college. The owner was friendly and accommodating. Not knowing the actual neighborhoods I would still think its a small dollar cab ride from the hotel.

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                BrettLove RE: sakeandgin Oct 7, 2011 05:27 PM

                Thanks, all! I guess I'm leaning toward Gracie's at this point. Despite not getting out much, Mom likes "fancy", and I get the feeling that service (don't ask me why, just a feeling) at Gracie's might be a bit more "polished"as well. Any thoughts on that? Mom's satisfaction with (or disappointment in) the service has the potential to greatly affect my enjoyment of the evening, as she's prone to gripe incessantly about service issues and/or kitchen mishaps that I might be more apt to ignore or "let slide". If money wasn't a factor (and it kills me to have to say that), I'd book Gracie's tonight. New Rivers would provide me with the comfort of not really having to keep an eye on the tab (as much), though... Thanks again.

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                  BrettLove RE: BrettLove Oct 8, 2011 01:33 PM

                  And Gracie's it shall be...
                  Thanks y'all, for taking the time to reply. I'll drop a line in November and let you know how it went. We both like the sample Gracie's menu a little better than New Rivers', and based on your feedback it seems like more of a "sure thing". While New Rivers is a bit "less expensive", I'm prone to ordering raw bar and/or charcuterie, which is intriguingly well represented on their menu and can add up fast. I figure we'll do the 5 course prix-fixe from Gracie's ($75), which won't be too much of a budget-buster for me (It'll just make October's austerity program a little more austere for the time being.) and will probably end up being a fair value overall. Cheers!

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                    BrettLove RE: BrettLove Jan 1, 2012 03:08 PM

                    Sorry for not getting back sooner with an epilogue & follow-up thanks; Gracie's was really nice & Mom loved it. I wasn't totally blown away, but hardly disappointed either. I'll spare you my poor, amateur reviewing, but most impressive in my recollection was a bay scallop crudo app. & the foie course (which, along with the cheese course, make up the 2 add'l courses in the 7 vs. 5 menus). Our main, rabbit, which appeared to be a nod to my "no raw or overt alcohol" request, as our neighbors got braised shortribs, was unfortunately (I generally totally dig bunny) the weakest. All in all, a great time though, and I'd return for sure. Thanks again for your tips, and a happy new year!

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                AikiLou RE: Gin n Tonic Jan 2, 2012 07:20 AM

                Hey, Hey, Gin and Tonic...(I am a Rhode Islander by birth and am there every couple of weeks, but live in The Berkshires)...just a footnote to your post (with respect)...I have run the CVS 5K in downtown Providence a few times. I have ALSO walked from downtown Providence to Mills tavern and also up to the hill. But, what do I know?...I am only 67...we aging boomers ARE still ambulatory. Also, I would walk, if I had to, to Bacaro from downtown Providence...was there for the first time three weeks ago and loved it. I would recommend Bacaro to anybody. In fact, I would choose Bacaro over CAV any time. And to me, Mills Tavern is just wonderful. The paradox?--I LOVE running, but HATE walking (it takes so long to get somewhere).

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                  Gin n Tonic RE: AikiLou Jan 4, 2012 11:01 AM

                  Thanks, but an odd comment, as I never mentioned Mills or Bacaro, which would be an easier walk from the Biltmore at any rate. CAV isn't just pretty far, it's through an area that doesn't see much foot traffic.

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                    AikiLou RE: Gin n Tonic Jan 4, 2012 12:16 PM

                    Oh, Okay, I thought you were referring to us aging boomers--that BrettLove's mother being 60ish might not be capable of a 15 minute walk...that said...Mills and Bacaro ARE really good restaurants...

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