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botanica Oct 6, 2011 10:39 AM

This is probably a dumb question, but when you're cooking with clams, do they always have to be live? Assuming I don't get them out of a can, anyway? I'm very squeamish about the idea of boiling them -- is there any other way to kill them before tossing them into the bubbling water?

  1. rcallner Oct 6, 2011 10:50 AM

    Is this a joke question? In case it isn't, I cut and pasted the following from a science question site. I don't think bivalves suffer pain, in the way mammals do. I try to be scrupulous even if I choose to kill a bug so it doesn't gratuitously suffer, but cooking clams seems to dispatch them mighty quickly.

    Mollusks (including clams) have a central nervous system, even a primitive brain: "In the nervous system typical of mollusks, a pair of cerebral ganglia (masses of nerve cell bodies) innervate the head, mouth, and associated sense organs. From the dorsal cerebral ganglia, two pairs of longitudinal nerve cords arise..." http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-...

    After all, it has complex behaviors (feeding, mating, defense, etc) that need to be coordinated. All animals have behaviors in response to external stimuli signaled by sense organs.

    But "feelings" is a different story. Complex feelings that are obviously human in nature (embarrassment, jealousy, guilt, etc) are mediated by our cerebral cortex -- the "thinking" part of our brain that is highly developed in humans alone.

    Pain is a particularly interesting "feeling." All animals have avoidance behaviors for potentially harmful stimuli, but the unpleasant emotional component that goes along with people's perception of pain is modulated by our cerebral cortex and limbic system (among many pathways), none of which can be found in a mollusk, arthropod, or other invertebrate "lower animal." There is no evidence that when you step on an ant, the ant "hurts" before it dies.

    In fact there is much debate about whether a fish, a vertebrate like us with a similar nervous system, has a big enough brain to experience pain from a fishhook stuck in its mouth. All mammals, by contrast, clearly react to painful stimuli in ways more closely resembling humans. Mammals appear to "suffer" pain. The other vertebrates (amphibians, reptiles, and birds) are probably somewhere in between.

    If your moral/ethical values regarding the treatment of animals is based on the humanistic concept of suffering, then be kind to all mammals, think twice before hooking a fish, but don't worry about clams.

    1. Gio Oct 6, 2011 10:59 AM

      Sorry to be the person to tell you... but... you don't kill the clams before they are cooked. Like steaming or boiling lobsters clams go into the pot live. And, steaming is one of the best methods of cooking clams, not boiling.

      You discard any clams that don't close when you tap them and discard those that stay open after you tap them.

      There are many recipes for steamed, stuffed, grilled, fried, or roasted clams plus chowders on the internet...Here's just one:
      http://savorysweetlife.com/2010/04/st...

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        aurora50 Oct 6, 2011 11:30 AM

        Botanica, the others are right -
        - With clams, as with other certain seafoods like mussels and lobster, you really WANT them to be alive just before you cook them, or else they will start to spoil in their shells -
        - You don't want to eat spoiled food, do you? That's REALLY dangerous and asking for trouble!
        If all this really disturbs you, then please just cook something else.
        P.S. It's really not bad to cook clams - you basically just throw them in a pot and put a lid on -
        Don't have to see them cooking.

      2. ROCKLES Oct 6, 2011 12:51 PM

        Some Asian Markets like Ranch 99 have frozen clams

        1. EricMM Oct 6, 2011 02:45 PM

          There are alternatives to steaming/boiling- roasting, broiling, and of course, shucking- opening the shell and cutting the muscles, and dumping it out of the shell still alive. Face it- its got to be alive when you prepare it. Someone posted about the frozen clams in Asian markets. I have tried them, and they are awful.

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            ROCKLES Oct 6, 2011 04:45 PM

            they are a bit chewy but cook from frozen and make the right sauce, they can be quite good, much better than from a can, obviously not as good as alive ones. But hey, I was just responding to the OP

            1. re: ROCKLES
              EricMM Oct 7, 2011 03:01 PM

              Maybe it was just the brand I tried....I do like the frozen arctic surf clams, but they're already pre-cooked. But I wouldn't even think of canned clams in the same breath....they have their place, but not in any dish that would actually be done with real clams.

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            aurora50 Oct 7, 2011 06:45 PM

            Botanica, have you found a way to get around your aversion to cooking clams?
            Just curious -

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