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Best Kaiseki option?

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I am looking for the best, most authentic Kaiseki option in Manhattan. Right now I am looking at:
Sugiyama, Rosanjin or EN Japanese. Can anyone comment on the best option of the 3? Or recomend anything else I am overlooking? I'd like to spend 200 to 300 for 2 people (not including any sake pairings) and would also like a place with a really nice, special setting. I prefer Lower Manhattan.

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  1. I haven't been, but Kyo Ya has been highly praised on this board.

    I'm curious to know the answer as well. I hear that EN Japanese Brasserie isn't on the same level as the others, but I wonder who is the best among Sugiyama, Rosanjin, and Kyo Ya.

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    En Japanese Brasserie
    435 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10014

    Sugiyama
    251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

    Kyo Ya
    94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

    Rosanjin
    141 Duane Street, New York, NY 10013

    1. I would skip En, I have been a few times, while not bad, I wouldnt really consider it kaiseki, its closer to obansai ryori, the space is big, open, a bit loud, not really a serene kaiseki setting. Kyo Ya if you make a reservation in advance, or even Kajitsu would be much better options. Havent been to Brushstroke yet, but that might be an option as well.

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      En Japanese Brasserie
      435 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10014

      Kyo Ya
      94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

      Kajitsu
      414 East 9th Street, New York, NY 10009

      Brushstroke
      30 Hudson St, New York, NY 10013

      1. Sugiyama is quite good, and a bit less expensive than the other options (if you don't add the Wagyu course). There's a 6 course traditional, an 8 course "modern" kaiseki, and an omakase kaiseki. Apart from the omakase version, all the others will be within your price range.

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        Sugiyama
        251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

        1. I love En, but not for authentic Kaiseki. They have a lovely tasting menu, which they call Kaiseki, but it is not a classic Kaiseki menu. It does not have raw/soup/fried/vinegared/grilled/braised courses in the classic progression (don't remember the order but they're not doing it.).

          Sugiyama is fantastic. For me, it is one of my top 3 NYC restaurants. I have been going there for years. (once every year or so, on alternating visits to NYC). It is my favorite kaiseki place in the US (which, granted, are hard to find). I always order the "Chef Nao's choices -- 8 course modern kaiseki" which is $136 per person. I have not tried anything else but the Wagyu version ($198) which to me was not worth the price difference. I actually preferred what the other menu has instead. The meal I mention is long, wonderful, and very filling. A glorious progression of delicious and beautiful food.

          I have not been to Rosanjin or Kyoya. But I have heard wondeful things in particular about Kyoya. I plan to go there my next NYC visit. Only then can I compare them. :-)
          Also, Kajitsu is supposed to be a wonderful vegetarian option.

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          Sugiyama
          251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

          3 Replies
          1. re: pauliface

            Thanks for the description of Sugiyama. I pass it all the time on my way to Yakitori Totto. For a non-kaiseki meal, would you recommend Sugiyama's Five Course Dinner for $58?

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            Sugiyama
            251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

            1. re: Tommy D.

              The problem with the 5-course is that your main course is basically a steak. Also, you miss their "kisetsu kobachi, " which is excellent. Spend the extra $7 and go for what they call their "authentic course dinner." It's better.

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              Sugiyama
              251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

              1. re: Tommy D.

                I have only had the menus I mentioned above.
                It's so good that I've gotten stuck!

                But I would certainly try the 5-course if that's your inclination. I'm sure it's delicious and beautiful

            2. I haven't done the full kaiseki at Kyo Ya but the a la carte food I've had there is all amazing. I also like the setting (basement level in the EV, feels kind of hidden), the spacious seating, and the incredibly nice service.

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              Kyo Ya
              94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009