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nagsrus Oct 5, 2011 10:38 AM

with Majestic Dragon closed, where am I going to go for chinese food that is decent and open late?

Majestic Dragon
81 Turnpike Rd, Ipswich, MA 01938

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  1. ipsofatso RE: nagsrus Oct 5, 2011 11:25 AM

    Tough call; I do like Su Changs in Peabody but they close at 10 and its a good idea to phone in a take out before 9:30. 10% off for cash BTW. Essex is likely out of the way and thats OK because Fortune Palace is about the yuckiest. If you can go Thai, Thai Spice in Ipswich is very good. There is another Ipswich place, Mayflower, but I have not eaten there but they may be open late since they have a bar. Maybe one of the bigger players like the folks who own Mandarin might go in to the Majestic Dragon? Best of luck and of course, our collective CH condolences for Tony Woo.

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      nagsrus RE: ipsofatso Oct 5, 2011 12:28 PM

      I used to go to Sue Changs before economy went south; their consistency also went south...Since the owners at Fortune Palace split, so did the quality.. maybe I should try Mandarin house or Mayflower and yes... last tuesday was a sad day collectively for many of us in Ipswich..poor thing..

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        ipsofatso RE: nagsrus Oct 5, 2011 12:45 PM

        Report back on Mayflower if you think of it....I have yet to try it.

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          nagsrus RE: ipsofatso Oct 5, 2011 01:12 PM

          I will... I used to be good for 3 - 4 times a week of chinese food...now have cut down on the drinking and fatty food so maybe once or twice a month..so might be a bit..

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            chompie RE: nagsrus Oct 5, 2011 09:47 PM

            I've seen lots of other posts on this topic with good spirited arguments and suggestions so you could check those out. The only place I consistenly like is a bit south for you in Wakefield called Bamboo House. Small family run, not fancy, but very very fresh and very inexpensive and cook exactly how you ask for it to be done.. For example its 7 bucks for a huge plate of salmon (cut iin pieces) with jasmine rice and either ginger scallion or veggies like zucchini, summer squash, carrots, bok choy, mushrooms, onions, celery, baby corn etc. Or you can add 1-2 bucks to include apps, which are all done very well.. Not open too late though.. Also Asia Taste in West Peabody is pretty good. Nice variety of Asian foods, mostly Chinese. Havent been in a while.. assume its still decent..

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              mcel215 RE: chompie Oct 7, 2011 02:40 AM

              Hi Chompie,
              Just wondering if the Salmon dish is listed as something off the menu? I went to Menu Lizard and checked it out, but don't see that dish listed.
              I'll have to check out this place though, thanks for the tip. I haven't heard of it before you mentioned it.

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                BlueMagic RE: chompie Oct 7, 2011 04:24 AM

                Wow..that dish sounds delicious..I may have to check it out soon. I actually think the North of Boston area is sadly lacking in "sit down" Chinese restaurant. My favorite takeout place is Tea Tones in Andover. Really tasty Sesame Chicken.
                When I want a sit down meal in a Chinese restaurant.( which is not often) I usually head to Kowloon in Saugus. I doubt the decor has changed since I was a kid..but the service and the food are always good.

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                  mcel215 RE: BlueMagic Oct 7, 2011 05:26 PM

                  My family has a tradition, we get a ton of Chinese take-out on Christmas Eve and it only can be from Kowloon.....

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                    hhookk RE: mcel215 Oct 8, 2011 01:57 PM

                    We do the same thing, except we eat there. Great atmosphere. Santa and Mrs Claus are there walking around handing out candy canes for the kids. We always see Johnny Pesky and usually Eddie Andelman. It's fun to people watch in the lobby while we wait. Great time and a tradition I hope we keep.

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                    syrup09 RE: BlueMagic Jul 22, 2012 03:49 PM

                    The Red Roof Inn I stayed at was next to the Kowloon. I think I ordered the wrong thing but they have good egg rolls. They also have a comedy club upstairs.

              2. re: ipsofatso
                nagsrus RE: ipsofatso Oct 15, 2012 07:14 PM

                I am unable to go back to Majestic Dragon even though it is reopened..so I foolishly went to Kowloon for a while.. finally tried Mayflower...drinks are good and strong.. appetizers are fresh, and taste cooked that day.. not steam table and refried for each order...Have only tried a few dishes so far but have been back...Just wish weekdays it was busier and louder in the restaurant side..

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                  misseri RE: ipsofatso Oct 18, 2012 06:46 AM

                  My friend and I are both Ipswich gals living in the city, and we stopped by Mayflower on a Wednesday night. When I told my parents, who still live in Ipswich, they were horrified, and told me that it's been cited for health-code violations numerous times.

                  The food is kind of pan-Asian; they do sushi as well as the usual Chinese-American suspects. But now I'm a little afraid to go back.

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                    KWagle RE: misseri Oct 22, 2012 12:49 AM

                    Did you enjoy the food? Did it make you ill?

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              missfoodie RE: nagsrus Oct 6, 2011 08:55 AM

              I've never been disappointed with Out Of Asia (Route 1 North).

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                nagsrus RE: missfoodie Oct 6, 2011 09:03 AM

                this is the problem of the last few years... economy slows down they make the old food available an extra day or two til it is gone..Out of Asia used to be inconvenient for me but a sureshot.the grilled lobsters, softshell crabs.. on and on were guaranteed to die for.. now not so much..Asia Taste in W Peabody.. I have never even heard of it...will have to see about it..

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                  chompie RE: nagsrus Oct 9, 2011 12:08 AM

                  Hi mcel215, I went to menu lizard. Its on the Chefs Specials,. its the last one..but as a regular dish. For some reason its missing from the dinner specials. They list 28 lunch specials, but are missing the dinner specials after #21, and the salmon is #24. The food and atmosphere are very modest, certainly not Kowloon in atmosphere (or price.. The salmon is not gourmet, out of the boat chargrilled like Zaleks. Its plain pieces and the sauce on the salmon with veg is a plain white sauce but it is not gloppy with too much cornstarch and has a subtle sesame oil, garlic flavor and I like my food unadulterated with simple but fresh tastes. I also like to pig out on their fried shrimp app., or as we call them "shrimp donuts". So you can get your good old bad for you apps there too..

                  21 Princess St, Wakefield, MA 01880

                  1. re: chompie
                    mcel215 RE: chompie Jul 23, 2012 02:58 AM

                    Hey Chompie,

                    I know you are in the vicinity and wanted to tell you about the new Tulip restaurant that opened in Redstone plaza. Lunch buffet all week is excellent and they even do a Hibachi grill, with Shrimp, Beef, or Chicken included. Some nice ice creams and dessert station as well. It's about 8.50 during the week and 11.00 on the weekend.
                    I posted this under the Tulip/Stoneham thread also.


              2. ipsofatso RE: nagsrus Oct 10, 2011 07:09 AM

                Mandarin Danvers is passable - off Endicott St in the Market Basket mall...

                Mandarin Danvers
                139 Endicott St Ste B1, Danvers, MA 01923

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                  itsparadise RE: nagsrus Feb 7, 2012 05:17 AM

                  Royal Garden, Rt. 1 S, Peabody. THE BEST General Gau Chicken in the area. I drive right by Su Changs to get to Royal Garden. I know Su Changs is well liked but I'm not a fan.

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                    BrettLove RE: itsparadise Feb 7, 2012 08:01 AM

                    Prior to my grandmother's passing (18 mos. ago), Bamboo House on Broadway in Wakefield (next to Morena's, home to some really good Sicilian pizza, among other things...), was my & Gram's "goto" for very good "American" Chinese; crab Rangoon, wontons, Peking ravioli, etc. all made in-house - I doubt many suburban take-out joints can lay claim to that... FWIW

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                      powerfulpierre RE: nagsrus Feb 7, 2012 04:36 PM

                      Mmmm, sweet and sour mouse! Seriously, they did somewhat of a rehab of the dining area a while ago and it is improved. Not really a "destination" but IMO it is still the best of it's type in the immediate area. We still go to Fuloon or Chinatown but for those take-out dinners it is just fine. And their curry flavor Singapore Noodles is the favorite of our very fussy 12 yo granddaughter.

                      Bamboo House
                      21 Broadway St, Wakefield, MA 01880

                      1. re: powerfulpierre
                        BrettLove RE: powerfulpierre Feb 8, 2012 05:00 AM

                        I figured that was the whole point of the OP's post; an Ok "backup" plan for those who lack the time or wherewithall to make the trek to Chinatown from the Deep Burbs. I'm never gonna' say "Bamboo House's salted shrimp'll make ya' forget about Peach Farm's", but for a hole-in-the-wall in a strip mall (a really tiny one), I'll go so far as to say they totally rock! Their lunch special (provided it hasn't gone up much) is an amazing value - granted, not authentic, Chinatown-style food; but for $6? (A huge plate, which my Gram & I'd share, that comes with soup and app.) Infinitely better than other Wakefield/Melrose/Reading/Stoneham options.
                        Oh, and second the Singapore noodles, one of my faves there, as well... Pretty good stuff. Not "the best", not nec'ly worth going out of your way for, but for Broadway in Wakefield... Pretty good stuff.

                        1. re: BrettLove
                          nagsrus RE: BrettLove Feb 8, 2012 11:51 AM

                          you are close.. I work in Boston, live ipswich, once or twice a week I went to majestic Dragon for drinks, and the food was average.. I expected it from the suburbs and a place that is open late.I am tired of a place is good enough then stops trying.. Used to go twice a week to fortune palace then partnership broke up and not so hot..went to China jade again twice a week then things got tight so they messed with the drinks..
                          so this is what i want to replace.. I do have to try Mayflower just fear a chinese/sushi place..one is usually ok, the other .. not so fresh..

                    2. drewinmrblhd RE: nagsrus Feb 7, 2012 02:35 PM

                      Gourmet Garden in Vinnin Square in Swampscott is very good and consistent for years. My second choice for Asian food is Suger Cane in Peabody square. They have your traditional Chinese food menu and then they have Vietnamese and Thai dishes as well. I have never had a bad meal at either place.

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                        bluesjack RE: drewinmrblhd Mar 30, 2012 09:01 PM

                        +1 for Gourmet Garden...very consistant

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                          nsgirl RE: drewinmrblhd Oct 15, 2012 07:45 PM

                          I agree that the Gourmet Garden is very good. I had lunch here today. Sushi. Really good.

                          My only complaint about this restaurant is that even when hardly anyone is there (like today) it is overly loud. Which is even more annoying when it's the employees chattering away, nonstop, in loud voices who are the ones making the noise!

                          Now you figure that if a person heads to a sushi bar on a Monday lunch, they are probably craving a little peace and quiet after a busy weekend. Looking for a calm experience. Sadly this was not the case. The waiter was excellent. The food was great. I would have been glad to move if offered. Where was the manager?

                          Sorry GG. Hope this is constructive.

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                            huiray RE: drewinmrblhd Oct 18, 2012 04:24 AM

                            Nice/decent place; ate there a few years ago. Glad to hear it's still considered good. Open late, too (I had a late dinner there) and checking their website I see they are open till 11 pm on Fri/Sat and 10 pm on other days.


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                            skipper RE: nagsrus Mar 30, 2012 01:34 PM

                            How about Revere, Winthrop, etc.? I get there every once in a while from DC.

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                              ipsofatso RE: skipper Mar 30, 2012 04:25 PM

                              Billy Tse in Revere is about it

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                              AngerHeSmiles RE: nagsrus Apr 1, 2012 09:57 AM

                              I'm a big fan of Shanghai Garden II in Reading. Some really good dishes and it doesn't hurt that the beer menu is fantastic for a chinese place and some really great and inventive cocktails being made behind the bar.

                              1. yarm RE: nagsrus Oct 17, 2012 10:22 PM

                                Sichuan Garden II in Woburn, MA. Great food and great cocktails.

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                                  justbeingpolite RE: yarm Oct 18, 2012 07:24 AM

                                  No one's mentioned New China Pearl in Woburn. I haven't been in awhile, but I think they're still doing a weekday dim sum there.

                                2. libertywharf RE: nagsrus Oct 18, 2012 11:05 AM

                                  The Kowloon is always good, plus they have a great twin lobster special.

                                  1. drewinmrblhd RE: nagsrus Oct 18, 2012 01:54 PM

                                    If you are looking for fantastic take out, there is an new chinese take out in Salem at 125 Canal Street called Mei Lee Express. The quality of the food is far superior to anything in the area. The kitchen is clean and very visible. Seems to be family run. I was totally blown away as to the fresh vegetables and quality of the meat in their dishes. It replaced the former Happy House which had always left me with a frown.

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                                      ptmacp RE: nagsrus Oct 18, 2012 02:37 PM

                                      Oye's in Reading is fantastic. Beautiful decor, sensational food. Really a cut above most Chinese restaurants

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                                        chompie RE: ptmacp Oct 18, 2012 04:47 PM

                                        nice to see this thread resurface..has anyone tried any of the new places, like Sei Bar in wakefield or the hibachi place in Stoneham where Ames was? I am still waiting for more Chowhounds to go to Bamboo House in Wakefield.. As far as atmopshere, it is certainly no Oye's but I still find it the freshest best Chinese around and the prices are incomparable. We still get salmon and veggies(including zucchini, carrots summer squash, broc, onion, muschroom,babycorn etc) in a light white mildly garlic sauce with rice for 7 bucks or 1$ to add an app or $2 for two. Egg Fu Young is huge and plump and moist with just the right fry on the edges with a brown sauce that is actually really good and slightly peanutty, as opposed to most that are gloppy and icky. We splurge an extra buck for lo mein instead of rice for a big 8 bucks on the dinner specials. Good chow foon too. Also if you like big giant coated shrimp in a sticky sweet sauce, kind of like General Gau style, than the Crispy shrimp are good too. The menu is fairly standard Chinese, not like Sichuan Garden style, but meals come on huge white platters, served nicely and well prepared. Probably because there is one cook only and he has been there forever so it is pretty consistent.

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                                          mcel215 RE: chompie Oct 19, 2012 03:43 AM

                                          I have been a few times to Tulips in Redstone Plaza, all times at the luncheon buffet on the weekend. The food is mostly good, not great. I do like the fact that they have shrimp cooked/steamed in butter, also clams done about the same way. And my favorite dish is the large salmon filet, plainly baked. You just cut off the size piece you want and it's mouth watering. They do have a small salad bar, hibachi and ice cream/dessert bar as well. It's very crowded on the weekends, so go early if you are going.


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                                            huiray RE: mcel215 Oct 19, 2012 05:22 AM

                                            I trust you do realize that butter was not a widespread/traditional part of Chinese cuisine. (Tibetan/Mongolian/Uighur societies are a different matter) Cooking shrimp in butter is a Western adaptation in modern times.

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                                              ptmacp RE: huiray Oct 19, 2012 05:50 AM

                                              Oh lord...

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                                                huiray RE: ptmacp Oct 19, 2012 06:03 AM

                                                No need to roll your eyes. It's just a simple statement I made. The prawns-with-butter dish is no doubt delicious and welcomed by folks, including mcel215, but it may not be something that should be expected to be found in any "Chinese" restaurant, as borne out by the poster describing his/her pleasure at finding the dish at that place. Butter is simply not widely used in Chinese cooking.

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                                                scoopG RE: huiray Oct 19, 2012 08:13 AM

                                                Although yes, dairying failed to become central to the Chinese and the consumption of dairy products in traditional China remained negligible, prejudice against dairy products decreased greatly after the Han Dynasty (206 BCE – 220 CE). By the Tang (618 -907) fermented milks, including koumiss, were popular among the upper classes. There are references in the Ming (1368-1644) to butter made of cow’s milk and of milk sacrifices being offered. Butter was used in Taoist sacrificial offerings by Buddhist monks in the late 17th century. Butter tea (tea prepared with salt, milk and/or butter) was consumed in the Mongol Yuan (1279-1368) and one theory holds that the practice spread to western Asia then. Sometimes parched barley (or tsamba) flour was added to butter tea and the mixture was kneaded and then eaten as a type of dough.


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                                                  huiray RE: scoopG Oct 19, 2012 09:15 AM

                                                  Useful historical background, and exceptions for dairy usage in China and reinforcement for my caveats about Mongolian, Tibetan, Uighur etc culture (& cuisine); thanks for posting it. Very informative. It still remains so that butter is not widely used in Chinese cooking.

                                                  It is to be noted that Kumis is fermented, so that it becomes lactose-free.

                                                  One notable present-day exception (amongst others) is the use of butter in making the pastry shells for tan tat (dan tat) or egg custard pastries ubiquitous in Hong Kong and Cantonese cuisine (and a common item in dim sum). There have been various discussions about the English or Portuguese origins of that pastry, which became absorbed into the local cuisine. In other places (perhaps less Anglicized) tan tat pastry shells might tend to have lard/shortening rather than butter and thus lack that "butter fragrance" sought by those who consider it the mark of a great tan tat, although HK places do also use lard or a mixture of butter and lard.

                                                  Butter is a common ingredient nowadays with increasing Westernization in E/SE Asia, of course, and adoption of Western cuisines or Western-influenced food. Local specialties like "kaya toast" (Singapore/Malaysia) which has slabs of cold butter on top of a layer of kaya "jam" spread on warm white bread toast is another example of the use of butter.

                                                2. re: huiray
                                                  mcel215 RE: huiray Oct 19, 2012 03:55 PM

                                                  I do know that the dishes I mentioned are more of a Western take, than any Asian dish I've had before. But, I am pretty happy that they were served with the buffet, because they were excellent. And the Asian food was just "so-so". I was just pointing out to Chompie what I liked on the buffet, because he/she asked if anyone had gone yet.


                                          2. Chris VR RE: nagsrus Oct 19, 2012 04:43 AM

                                            I thought Kowloon was the worst Chinese food around here until I went to Fantasy Island in Salem, which set a new low. Both are open late but that's about their only redeeming factors.

                                            I like Oye's when I need to go out for late night food. It's a bit on the pricey side but it's worth it. I do wish there was a kitschy American Chinese-Polynesian place that was open late and wasn't awful, but I haven't found it yet.

                                            1. ipsofatso RE: nagsrus Oct 19, 2012 05:06 PM

                                              Pho Triple 888 in Peabody has some Chinese dishes among the Asian, Viet, etc. I do think it is among the best Asian feeds on the NS.

                                              136 Newbury St Peabody on the Rt 1 Sbound side.

                                              I am in Essex so to me Reading is metrowest :-0 can't really head there for take out

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