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manny6 Oct 3, 2011 11:02 AM

I will be travelling through Venice, Florence, Tuscany/Umbria, Pisa, Rome, Naples in October and was looking for suggestions for restaurants/eateries as I've usually found the places mentioned in guidebooks+tripadvisor to be unsatisfactory. I live in New York, and although I'm aware Italian food in Italy will undoubtedly be better, I'd like to try new things and more local options that I cannot access in NYC.
Typically looking to spend 10-30 Euros per person for casual meals and about 50-60 Euros for a few higher end options.

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    mtr Oct 6, 2011 04:12 PM

    Absolutely go to Sostanza in Florence, great food, not too expensive, make a reservation as they fill up pretty fast.

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    Sostanza
    Via della Porcellana, 25, 50123, Florence, Tuscany 50123, IT

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    1. re: mtr
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      startsev Oct 7, 2011 02:10 PM

      How far in advance do reservations need to be made.? Is a day or two ago or are we talking weeks?

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      manny6 Oct 6, 2011 01:20 PM

      So I have something now, please feel free to comment or suggest any from my list. If there is anything on here that is expensive (for my modest wallet that is more than $100 per person) please let me know so I can avoid it.

      VENICE ( will be staying in Cannairegio, arriving by flight at lunch time):
      Lunch: Caffe dei Frari, La Cantina, Bancogiro, Alla Vedova, Alla Frasca, Bea Vita, Antica Mola, due Gondolette, Al Timon, Deluca e Fred, Oniga, Osteria a la Campana, Al Covo

      Ciccheti: Cantina Do Mori, Enoteca Cantinone, Bancogiro, Al Mercà, Cantina do Mori, Bar all’Arco, Osteria ai Storti, Cantina Do Spade, Alla Vedova, La Cantina, Alla Bomba, Al Prosecco, Vini Padovani, Cantinone gia Schiavi, Ruga Rialto, Cavatappi, Da Alberto, Vivaldia, Al Bacareta, Alla Vedova, Ai Promessi Sposi, Vecià Carbonara, Maddalena in Cannaregio, El Sbarlefo, Promessi Sposi

      Dinner: Boccadoro, Alle Testiere, Antiche Carampane, Da Fiore, Trattoria Olivanera, da Pinto, Al Botte, Al Portego, Alla Frasca, ai Promessi Sposi, Fiaschetteria Toscana, Da Rioba, da Alberta, La Bitta

      Bar: Skyline Bar at the Molino Stucky for views

      ER:
      Plan to spend a day in Bologna, then go to Parma, rent a car and spend 1-2 days driving around the area

      Bologna: Trattoria del Rosso, Caminetto d'Oro, Al Cavallino Bianco, All'Osteria Bottega, Teresina, Serghei, Da Gianni or Ciccio e Giampi, Trattoria Anna Maria, Osteria Numero Sette, Osteria del Sole (drink), pizza at Belle Arti

      Parma: Locanda Mariella, Trattoria del Tribunale, Ristorante Cocchi, Da Ivan, La Buca, Da Amerigo, Sapori di Bassa (lunch only), Salsamentaria Storica e Verdiana

      TUSCANY:
      Florence: La Buca d"Orfeo, Fiaschetteria Nuvoli , Del Fagioli
, Trattoria Mario, Vini e Vecchi Sapori, Trattoria Sostanza, Trattoria Sergio Gozzi on Piazza di San Lorenzo (lunch), Mercato Centrale (lunch, Nerbone), Cipolla Rossa (dinner), Il Santo Bevitore (dinner), Le Volpi e L'uva

      Some others:
      La PIneta in Marina di Bibbona
      Lorenzo in Forte dei Marmi
      Garfagnana
      Osteria Acquacheta in Montepulciano

      After ER and Tuscany, going to Umbria.
      Please feel free to suggest good spots in Umbria, particularly in and around Perugia and Lago Trasimero (thinking of an agriturismo). I am attracted to Umbria as it seems to offer what Tuscany has, yet is apparently and underrated and not as heavily touristed, and hence cheaper too.

      I will post Rome later as I have too much info I currently have to parse through.

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      Trattoria del Tribunale
      Vicolo Politi, 5, Parma, PR 43100, IT

      Ristorante Cocchi
      Via Gramsci, 16a, Parma 43100, IT

      La Bitta
      Dorsoduro 2753A, Calle Lunga San Barnaba, Venezia 30123, IT

      Sapori di Bassa
      via Pietro Balestra 3, Busseto, Emilia-Romagna , IT

      Al Cavallino Bianco
      Via Sbrisi, 2, Polesine Parmense, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

      La Buca
      via Ghizzi 6, Zibello (PR), Zibello, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

      Da Ivan
      via Villa 73, Roccabianca di Fontanelle, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

      Antiche Carampane
      Calle de la Carampane, 1911,San Polo, Venice, Veneto 30125, IT

      Da Rioba
      Fondamenta de la Misericordia, Cannaregio, 2553, Venice, Veneto 30121, IT

      Bancogiro
      Campo San Giacomo di Rialto, San Polo 122,, Venice, Veneto 30125, IT

      Al Covo
      Campiello della Pescaria,Castello 3968, Venice, Veneto 30122, IT

      Fiaschetteria Toscana
      Cannaregio, 5719, Venice, Veneto 30131, IT

      Al Prosecco
      Campo San Giacomo dell'Orio, Santa Croce 1503, 30135, Venice, Veneto 30135, IT

      Cantina do Mori
      San Polo 429, Venice, Veneto , IT

      Do Spade
      Sestiere San Polo, 860, 30125 Venezia, Italy, Venice, Veneto , IT

      Caminetto d'Oro
      Via de' Falegnami, 4, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40121, IT

      Del Fagioli
      Corso dei Tintori, 47R, Florence, Tuscany 50122, IT

      Sostanza
      Via della Porcellana, 25, 50123, Florence, Tuscany 50123, IT

      Trattoria Mario
      Via Rosina, 2, Florence, Tuscany , 50123, IT

      Il Santo Bevitore
      Via Santa Spirito 64r, Florence, Tuscany 50125, IT

      Vini e Vecchi Sapori
      Via dei Magazzini, 3, Florence, Tuscany 50122, IT

      Trattoria del Rosso
      Via Righi 30, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

      Serghei
      Via Piella, 12, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

      Teresina
      Via Guglielmo Oberdan, 4, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

      Trattoria Anna Maria
      Via delle Belle Arti, 17, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

      Nerbone
      Via dell'Ariento, 87r, Florence, Tuscany 50100, IT

      Bea Vita
      Cannaregio 3082, Venice, Veneto , IT

      Boccadoro
      Campiello Widmann,Cannaregio 5405a, Venice, Veneto , IT

      La Cantina
      Campo San Felice, Cannaregio 3689, Venice, Veneto , IT

      Oniga
      Campo San Barnaba, 2852, Venice, Veneto , IT

      Vini Padovani
      Dorsoduro, calle dei Cerchieri,1280, Venice, Veneto , IT

      All'Osteria Bottega
      Via Santa Caterina, 51, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna , IT

      Osteria Numero Sette
      loc. - Rastignano ,Via Andrea Costa 7, Pianoro Bologna, Emilia-Romagna , IT

      Locanda Mariella
      localita Fragnolo,Strada Provinciale 61, Calestano, Emilia-Romagna 43030, IT

      Cipolla Rossa
      Via de' Conti,53, Florence, Toscana 50123, IT

      da Pinto
      Sestiere San Polo,367, Venice, Veneto 30125, IT

      Alle Testiere
      Calle del Mondo Novo,Sestiere Castello,5801, Venice, Veneto 30122, IT

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      1. re: manny6
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        zerlina Oct 6, 2011 02:11 PM

        I suggest you do several different posts: Venice; Bologna, Parma, Emilia Romagna; Florence, Tuscany; Umbria; Rome. Two of the most knowledgeable people - PBSF for Venice and Mbfant for Rome - have posted in this thread and might look at it again, but Allende - for Emilia Romagna and coastal Tuscany - has not.

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          allende Oct 6, 2011 02:28 PM

          Thanks Zerlina:

          ER countryside: Da Ivan where we had another really wonderful meal last Friday evening. La Buca; Locanda Mariella; and around Bologna, Da Amerigo. Leave plenty of time to find all of these. They are buried in the countryside.
          Tuscan Coast: La Pineta in Marina di Bibbona; Lorenzo; and the newest one La Perla del Mare in San Vincenzo, but it runs a distant third to Lorenzo and La Pinetta.

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          La Buca
          via Ghizzi 6, Zibello (PR), Zibello, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

          Da Ivan
          via Villa 73, Roccabianca di Fontanelle, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

          La Pineta
          via dei Cavalleggeri Nord 27, Bibbona, Tuscany 57020, IT

          Locanda Mariella
          localita Fragnolo,Strada Provinciale 61, Calestano, Emilia-Romagna 43030, IT

          1. re: allende
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            zerlina Oct 6, 2011 03:02 PM

            You're welcome. Is La Pineta within the OP's price range: 74 Euro per person?

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            La Pineta
            via dei Cavalleggeri Nord 27, Bibbona, Tuscany 57020, IT

            1. re: zerlina
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              allende Oct 6, 2011 03:09 PM

              Shouldn't be a problem. Depends, of course, on what price wine you order (Luciano has a great list, but there are many, many bottles that are moderately priced).
              Fish and seafood, as you well know, is very expensive in Italy (unless it is not of top quality), and it is very expensive at La Pineta, but there should be no problem.

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              La Pineta
              via dei Cavalleggeri Nord 27, Bibbona, Tuscany 57020, IT

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                manny6 Oct 6, 2011 09:09 PM

                Thanks Allende. I might not be able to make it to Locanda Mariella or La Pineta. But I plan to have lunch at La Buca and then dinner and stay the night at Da Ivan. Any idea if one needs a booking in October for a room + dinner or can we just show up?

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                La Buca
                via Ghizzi 6, Zibello (PR), Zibello, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

                Da Ivan
                via Villa 73, Roccabianca di Fontanelle, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

                La Pineta
                via dei Cavalleggeri Nord 27, Bibbona, Tuscany 57020, IT

                Locanda Mariella
                localita Fragnolo,Strada Provinciale 61, Calestano, Emilia-Romagna 43030, IT

                1. re: manny6
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                  allende Oct 7, 2011 05:05 AM

                  No problem eating without a reservation (normally), but staying, I'd get a reservation. Da Ivan has only two or three rooms so on any one night, there might be a problem.

                  I think it is a mistake to go to Da Ivan at dinner and La Buca at lunch. They are very close to one another, about 10 km. The food (basic products and dishes) is basically the same, although prepared very differently.

                  My recommendation would be to go to Locanda Mariella for lunch (the food being very different from Da Ivan even though they are only 35 or so km. away; that's really what Italian regionalism means) and then go to Da Ivan for dinner and the night.

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                  La Buca
                  via Ghizzi 6, Zibello (PR), Zibello, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

                  Da Ivan
                  via Villa 73, Roccabianca di Fontanelle, Emilia-Romagna 43010, IT

                  Locanda Mariella
                  localita Fragnolo,Strada Provinciale 61, Calestano, Emilia-Romagna 43030, IT

        2. re: manny6
          PBSF Oct 6, 2011 03:07 PM

          Unless your stay is for couple of weeks in each cities/areas, my advice is to start editing. It overwhelms you as well those who wants to reply to your thread. How long are you planning to stay in each particular city/area?
          Venice: it is a hodge of a list, therefore, it is difficult to pin down what specifics you are looking for; it has just about every place that had been mentioned on this board. Only Osteria da Fiore will exceed your budget.

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            manny6 Oct 6, 2011 03:16 PM

            I was hoping CH'ers would help me edit! I've never been to these places of course but I am generally looking for some strictly local cuisine, sticking to a modest budget (10-30 EUR per person for lunch, 20-50 EUR per person for dinner) and having some some backup places. I plan to spend 3 full days in Venice, 3-4 days in ER, 3 days in Tuscany, 3 days in Umbria. In Venice I will have 3 lunches, and 3 nights for dinner/cicchetti.

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              PBSF Oct 6, 2011 03:51 PM

              Venice: if your budget is 20-50 euro pp rather than the $100, places such as Al Covo,
              alle Testiere, Antiche Carampane, Fiaschetteria Toscana will test your upper limit. And that is before ordering wine, etc.
              Bacari are inexpensive but it still comes down to what you order. A excellent seafood antipasti will be expensive regardless where you order it but one can have a small plate of saor, fried sardines, squid at do Spada for 2.5 euro or small sandwiches at L'Arco or Al Merca for 1.5 euro. Keep in mind that it takes a few to make a lunch. Local wines starts at about 2euro for an ombra.

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              Antiche Carampane
              Calle de la Carampane, 1911,San Polo, Venice, Veneto 30125, IT

              Al Covo
              Campiello della Pescaria,Castello 3968, Venice, Veneto 30122, IT

              Fiaschetteria Toscana
              Cannaregio, 5719, Venice, Veneto 30131, IT

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                manny6 Oct 6, 2011 04:19 PM

                Well I can go up to $100 per person or any amount for that matter, but I'd rather stick to about 20-50 euro. I generally find diminishing returns with food as prices go much higher, and having had the privilege of eating all over the world in all price ranges, I am personally usually happiest spending a modest amount, similar to what middle class locals would spend on a meal. You do get what you pay for, but I find there is certainly a sweet spot where you can be very happy with the food, ambiance and company for a modest amount of money. There are of course exceptions, so I would not mind trying 1 of these places. Of the 4, which would be a truly delicious Venetian experience: Al Covo, alle Testiere, Antiche Carampane, Fiaschetteria Toscana.
                I really like the idea of trying small good eats at various bacari, I have a feeling this is what I will end up doing for dinner most of the time.

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                Antiche Carampane
                Calle de la Carampane, 1911,San Polo, Venice, Veneto 30125, IT

                Al Covo
                Campiello della Pescaria,Castello 3968, Venice, Veneto 30122, IT

                Fiaschetteria Toscana
                Cannaregio, 5719, Venice, Veneto 30131, IT

                1. re: manny6
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                  barberinibee Oct 7, 2011 08:23 AM

                  Just read your post about prices. For Bologna, Giampi e Ceccio, Serghei, Trattoria Anna Maria and Da Gianni are all within your optimal price range (listed lowest to highest).

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                    zerlina Oct 7, 2011 02:22 PM

                    Venice is not like most cities. It receives 21 million visitors a year (the last time I looked) and has a resident population of about 60,000 in the historic center. Also, middle-class locals don't eat out that much, and when they do, they may be charged on a different price scale than visitors. It's illegal in theory but not unknown in practice. Visiting "regulars" also get discounted prices sometimes, but a three-day visit is not going to make you a regular.

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                      manny6 Oct 7, 2011 02:49 PM

                      Understood. Basically I have to pay for good food. The visitors/locals ratio tells me that 'local' food would me more about the local ingredients and perhaps traditional Venetian dishes than what current locals actually eat.

                      1. re: manny6
                        jen kalb Oct 7, 2011 03:17 PM

                        you are theorizing again! I think if you go to most of the places on your list that have been reccomended by PBSF etc. and that are away from San Marco and other tourist hotspots, and focus on the local dishes rather than generic italian that you will eat pretty much what locals eat , not pay an exorbitant amount and a lot of times sit next to them. Locals in italy still mainly eat their local food tho that is changing a bit. The 4 or 5 prominent placeshigh ticket places that are talked about on every food board, including this one are a different story.

                    2. re: manny6
                      PBSF Oct 8, 2011 09:02 PM

                      If you subscribe to your theory of 'diminishing returns with food as prices go much higher", my advice is to by pass the 'expensive' places such as Al Covo, Alle, Testiere, etc. You will probably find them not worth the cost.

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                      Al Covo
                      Campiello della Pescaria,Castello 3968, Venice, Veneto 30122, IT

              2. re: manny6
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                barberinibee Oct 7, 2011 08:14 AM

                Regarding Bologna, unless you speak some Italian, and have a ready knowledge of the classic Bolognese menu, you might not get the best meal at Serghei only because there is no printed menu, and the owner tends to sort of whiz through the offerings, expecting you to interrupt him with what you want. He sometimes stops short of giving the whole list, feeling he just has to prompt you with a few items, and you'll know to ask for what you want, even if he hasn't mentioned it yet. If you are not deterred by that, it is a good choice.

                Osteria del Sole is almost like an indoor picnic area, with a bar. The idea is that you bring your own food and you get the use of the table for the price of a drink. It's really not a place to just go in and have a drink, although I doubt anybody would really care, and it is a very atmospheric old corner of the markets.

                Al Cavallino Biano is not in Bologna but near Parma.

                I wouldn't bother to eat pizza at Belle Arti if you are only in Bologna for a very short time.

                Teresina is a very nice upmarket restaurant, in a lovely space, with a solid reputation for consistency. But if you are in search if truly representative food of the city, I think it's not quite what you are looking for, even though you will eat well. The same is partly true of Caminetto d'Oro, which is even more upmarket (and pricier), but if you are deliberately in search of tagliatelle al ragu, this is a fine destination for that.

                Da Gianni, Giampi e Ciccio and Trattoria Anna Maria are all fine places to try delicious homemade pastas, especially filled/stuffed pastas at Anna Maria. Each is a bit touristy in its own way, Trattoria Anna Maria the most, but they can be warm and friendly nonetheless. Trattoria Anna Maria has the least satisfactory secondi in my experience.

                Never have eaten at Trattoria della Rossa, Osteria Numero Settte or all'Osteria 'Bottega, although the last is very high on my list, and has been recommended to me by locals as well as appearing in knowledgeable food guidebooks.

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                Caminetto d'Oro
                Via de' Falegnami, 4, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40121, IT

                Serghei
                Via Piella, 12, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

                Teresina
                Via Guglielmo Oberdan, 4, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

                Trattoria Anna Maria
                Via delle Belle Arti, 17, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

                Giampi e Ciccio
                Via Luigi Carlo Farini, 31, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna , IT

                1. re: barberinibee
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                  barberinibee Oct 7, 2011 08:46 AM

                  PS: I went looking to see if I could find a menu for Serghei on the internet, and this blog points out that it is posted outside the restaurant. So you can decide what you want before you go in, no problem.

                  http://tasteforbologna.blogspot.com/2...

                  I would skip dessert in Bologna anywhere you go with the possible exception of Da Gianni.

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                  Serghei
                  Via Piella, 12, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40126, IT

                  1. re: barberinibee
                    jen kalb Oct 7, 2011 08:58 AM

                    adding links - in connection with your last note about dessert bb there is an amusing comment from Gualtieri Marchesi quoted in the second review of Osteria Numero Sette on this page (I love the googletranslate glitches too, but that wont bother you.) to the effec that your meal in Bologna should be antipasto, primo and dessert. I get skipping the secondi, so often disappointing. But I am usually also disappointed by Italian desserts - could he be indicating that Bolognese desserts are better than other places?

                    http://www.2spaghi.it/ristoranti/emil...

                    Sine OP has a car, he can get out to visit some of these more remote places - I would love to get a report since this is on my list of interesting restaurants around Bologna

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                    All'Osteria Bottega
                    Via Santa Caterina, 51, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna , IT

                    Osteria Numero Sette
                    loc. - Rastignano ,Via Andrea Costa 7, Pianoro Bologna, Emilia-Romagna , IT

                    1. re: jen kalb
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                      barberinibee Oct 7, 2011 09:19 AM

                      Just so there is no confusion: All'Osteria Bottega is in central Bologna, in the centro storico.

                      I would certainly agree on skipping the secondo in most Bolognese restaurants. I really enjoyed my secondo of turkey at Serghei, and saw other plates going to other tables that I would have tried. But my experience of secondi in other Bolognese restaurants has been terribly discouraging.

                      Plotkin recommends bollito misto at Giampi e Ceccio in winter -- which may be too early for manny6.

                      If manny6 has a car, I would encourage him to stay outside Bologna near one of the recommended countryside restaurants and only come into Bologna to see the morning markets and buy some food, and treat himself to a sitdown at Osteria del Sole, which would really fit his budget (even if parking is expensive).

                      But if he is staying in Bologna, experiencing what's left of the best of the classic places can be enjoyable.

                      My limited experience of Bolognese restaurant desserts is that they are are too eggy or too jammy, or too ice-creamy. I find Bolognese pasta exceptionally rich, and after eating them, dessert has little appeal. That said, I am extremely fond of baked goods filled with Bolognese mostarda, but I don't know if the Bolognese eat them for dessert or for breakfast or teatime. Tamburini sells the best version I've tasted -- a calzone/streudel-like cake called "pinza" -- but last time I was in there they refused to sell it to me by the slice (as they had previously), only in gift-wrapped packages.

                      Here's a picture and recipe

                      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4zpRkppN0Ao/TQT4QQT0VfI/AAAAAAAAB08/WBCwe6aY8C0/s1600/P1010191.JPG

                      http://roberta-lagolosona.blogspot.co...

                      1. re: barberinibee
                        jen kalb Oct 7, 2011 11:48 AM

                        lots of great info bb

                        Its a pity that this thread and list is so sprawling that all the restaurants wont map[. I guess OP can click on one of the Bologna restaurants and then the loption to see nearby restaurants to see where they are vis a vis each other.

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                        Gianni a la Vecia Bulagna (aka Trattoria da Gianni)
                        Via Clavature 18, Bologna, Emilia-Romagna 40100, IT

                        Da Amerigo (Amerigo dal 1934)
                        Via Marconi, 16, Savigno, Emilia-Romagna 40060, IT

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                manny6 Oct 3, 2011 08:17 PM

                Thank you for all the links. I'm in the process of putting them together in a document for me to take with me on my trip. From what I've figured so far, I should be seeking food in and around Bologna (ER countryside) and Tuscany/Umbria countryside. In fact I think those areas may actually be nice to be in generally. I get the impression that the big cities I was planning to visit with the exception of Rome are best for visiting sights more so than looking for great food.
                Slightly off topic, but if I wanted to spend about a week driving around the countryside in some combination of ER, Tuscany, Umbria, where should I rent a car and stay?

                4 Replies
                1. re: manny6
                  mbfant Oct 3, 2011 09:21 PM

                  Travel information and advice is beyond the scope of this board. There is plenty of great food in Rome, Florence, and Venice. You just have to do your homework, but you've started.

                  1. re: manny6
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                    zerlina Oct 3, 2011 10:18 PM

                    If you're as serious about this as you seem, bear in mind that *what* you eat is as important as where you eat it. "Italian cooking" doesn't exist; it's all regional cooking. Fred Plotkin's Italy for the Gourmet Traveler, which is not about high-end dining, has good introductions to the cooking of each region and a comprehensive index of regional dishes.

                    50-60 Euro per person is the middle range that many restaurants fall into, and there are also many in the 35-50 Euro range. If you eat lunch for 10-15 Euro (e.g., pizza al taglio in Rome, boiled-beef or tripe sandwiches in Florence, cicchetti in Venice), you can go to 35-60 Euro for more of your dinners.

                    1. re: manny6
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                      barberinibee Oct 4, 2011 08:17 AM

                      manny6,

                      There was a long chowhound thread about best eating regions in Italy, and the person who started it recently returned from his trip and wrote what was to me an interesting summary. Here are his most recent posts

                      http://www.chow.com/profile/1201359/activity

                      And here is the whole thread, only some of which might be of interest to you

                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/739165

                      I also encourage you to obtain Fred Plotkin's book. Just the other day I was looking at another highly regarded Italian restaurant guide to Italy, and it was interesting to see how many of Fred Plotkin's recommendations overlapped for quality but not-break-the-budget dining, and Plotkin's book has the added virtue of being a solid education in regional cuisine.

                      1. re: manny6
                        jen kalb Oct 4, 2011 01:09 PM

                        Unless you make choices and economize for some of your meals, many of the best places in the countryside, however, will be outside your price range. The Gambero Rosso mangiar bene lowcost publication bb mentions and The Slowfood Guide (note, there is some overlap, understandably) are resources you can use to locate appropriately priced restaurants inside and outside cities. And, there is delicious food in both places. generalizations will only take you so far.

                        As Zerlina notes there are distinct regional and local cuisines so you should be able to try a range of different dishes, for example in the mountains with cuisine using lentils, farro, game, mushrooms, sheep cheeses, say and then in the rich agricultural lands of E-R with their delicate, rich pork and pasta specialties.. Because Italy is so regional, you will not get seafood in inland areas, except in luxury restaurants. If you want seafood and sea fish you need to travel to the coast, or you can also enjoy lake or river fish in areas like Lake Trasimeno, some other areas of Umbria where there are trout, or in the Po plain, where there are river fish, etc, fresh water shrimp, etc.. there is really a fascinating diversity.

                      2. PBSF Oct 3, 2011 02:13 PM

                        You might find the following recent links helpful for Venice:
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/806577
                        The Venice part of the post might helpful for inexpensive places
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/808158
                        Eating ciccheti in Venice
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/778455
                        More for general reading re to eating in Venice
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/808613

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                          barberinibee Oct 3, 2011 12:32 PM

                          When you get to Italy, you might want to pick up a copy of a restaurant guide published by Gambero Rosso called Mangiar bene LOW COST, recommending places to eat for between 10 and 30 euros, all over Italy. It is an orange book that looks like this:

                          http://www.gamberorosso.it/index.php?...

                          I've not used this book personally, but Gambero Rosso's comprehensive yearly guide, which covers food in all price ranges, is highly regarded and consulted by many food-savvy people.

                          The book is in Italian but you won't have much trouble deciphering the essential information you need.

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                            DavidT Oct 3, 2011 12:19 PM

                            PLEASE be sure to take 15-20 minutes to both scroll thru the many prior posts that are already here (see below) and to also do searches (go to the upper right-hand corner of this page) for each of the cities/regions you are thinking of visiting. Eating/dining in almost all of the places on your list has been discussed here repeatedly. You will find hundreds of helpful suggestions already here for you to review.

                            Here is current thread that should be of interest:

                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/807690

                            This one as well: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/809084

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