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All Clad is 40% Off at my local cookware store -- Should I get it?

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summersupper Sep 28, 2011 02:46 PM

Stainless steel. I do not like how All Clad is Made in China!

Is it worth it?

  1. inaplasticcup Sep 28, 2011 02:52 PM

    I can't speak to All Clad's quality, but I'll just say this - assuming it's great stuff, you may want to check around on the web for prices because stores sometimes begin with inflated prices and then put them *on sale*. 40% off sounds great, unless their 40% off price is only marginally better than another merchant's regular price. Happens all the time.

    1. Chemicalkinetics Sep 28, 2011 03:20 PM

      Get it if you need it. Really. If you don't need it, even 90% off is a waste of money. A lot of people fall into the trap of getting something because it is on sale, but that is not the correct approach.

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        sueatmo Sep 29, 2011 07:55 AM

        Agreed.. If you want it and you need it, and you can afford it, buy the pieces you need. If you are replacing junky pieces, pitch the old pieces though. (That's my advice!) Don't buy it unless you really like it, want to handle it every day, or it replaces something you are ready to be done with. If you really want it--go for it.

      2. Jay F Sep 28, 2011 04:11 PM

        All Clad stainless steel is (mostly) not made in China. The lids were, and the roasting pan (roti) is or was, but not the frypans, stockpots, saucepans, or saute pans.

        What pieces did you find, and what did they cost?

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          summersupper Sep 28, 2011 05:51 PM

          Hi Jay, I found a large rotisserie pan with handles and a rack included for $150. Good deal?

          1. re: summersupper
            Jay F Sep 28, 2011 06:52 PM

            No. It's one of the ones Made in China. Not tri-ply. Not good reviews on Amazon.

            http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_...

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              Chemicalkinetics Sep 28, 2011 07:35 PM

              Just to clarify, just because it is not triply, it does not make it bad.

              1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                Jay F Sep 28, 2011 11:08 PM

                I don't have one, but based on the Amazon reviews, I wouldn't buy one. I read something about warping when someone tried to deglaze to make a sauce. Maybe it's okay. I have no experience to share on this item.

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                  Chemicalkinetics Sep 29, 2011 07:54 AM

                  JayF,

                  I would think a pure stainless roasting pan and a triply roasting pan will work about the same inside an oven. This is because the heating is coming is all direction inside an oven. For stovetop usage, then the triply has an edge. The aluminum core in a triply construction will distribute the heat more evenly when the heat is applied from the bottom -- e.g. from a stove.

                  So, I think it comes down to the fact that if the person will consider using the roasting pan on a gas stove or an electric stove. I wonder if that is what happened when you said someone tried to deglaze. Probably the person tried to do something on a stove, maybe.

            2. re: summersupper
              Chemicalkinetics Sep 28, 2011 07:01 PM

              It does not seem like you know what you want. A triply roasting pan, not a triply roasting pan, an anodized aluminum pan, a nonstick coating one....

              Unless you know what you are looking for, simply buying cookware based on "brand" and "sale" is not a good idea.

              Why are you buying a GM truck? Because it is on sale? You need to figure out if you need a truck in the first place.

          2. Bada Bing Sep 28, 2011 06:18 PM

            Might mean the store is struggling. Isn't All-Clad one of those brands that isn't supposed to discount, like Le Creuset?

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              grant.cook Sep 28, 2011 07:44 PM

              The Williams Sonoma outlet near me (Boston) discounts All-Clad regularly.

              I ended up using the Wal-Mart Tramontina set and have always been content with it, for far less than one would spend on AC. But AC gets consistently good reviews, so if there's a pan there you love, go for it... just make sure its a pan you'll need and use. Not sure if I'd bother with an AC stockpot..

              1. re: grant.cook
                Chemicalkinetics Sep 28, 2011 07:46 PM

                :)

                "I ended up using the Wal-Mart Tramontina set"

                Good choice.

                "just make sure its a pan you'll need and use"

                Agree

                "Not sure if I'd bother with an AC stockpot.."

                Also agree. Not much of a point there.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                  Jay F Sep 28, 2011 11:16 PM

                  I have one, the 8 qt., which, since it is shaped like a Dutch oven, that's how I use it. I've never actually made stock in it. I have three other stockpots, in 6, 8, and 16 qt. sizes.

                  I went through a phase in 2009 where I wanted stuff that was lighter than LC, so I bought a few pieces of AC at cookwarenmore.com and on eBay. It's okay stuff. I like the Dutch oven pretty well except that the lid kind of bubbles up and down because it's not that heavy. However, I went back to using LC most of the time.

                  I use my two AC saucepans all the time, and a 12" skillet from time to time. I don't do a lot of sauteeing. I use either a cast iron skillet or non-stick for eggs, but more because they're smaller than 12" than that I dislike the stainless steel skillet. I use it when I'm pan frying fish or chicken more than for anything else.

                  I wish I'd found the cheaper stuff first, but I didn't. I didn't know about Tramontina or Cuisinart stainless before I found this forum. I really didn't know much about current-day cookware brands besides LC, which I had, and AC, which numerous friends have, and I used to see on FN. I'd bought my cookware long ago, and wasn't paying a whole lot of attention.

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                    dcole Sep 29, 2011 06:21 AM

                    I agree with Jay F...the All Clad 8qt stock pot isnt a stock pot in the sense of it being tall and narrow. I have a cheap tall and narrow stock pot and an 8qt All Clad "stockpot" that I use for making bolognese, ect mostly. It browns meat great, then can be used to simmer sauce.

                    If you like All Clad, check out the cuisinart multiclap pro. I love my all clad, but if I had know about these/done some research, I could have saved some $. There are plenty of other less expensive alternatives to All Clad if you do your research.

                    1. re: dcole
                      Chemicalkinetics Sep 29, 2011 07:43 AM

                      For a stockpot, triply or multiply is unnecessary because of the content. Even heating is not a challenge for boiling water.... I think the problem is that some people think one material or one construction is good for everything and that will get them in serious trouble. Just because an enameled cast iron Dutch Oven is popular, it does not mean an enameled cast iron wok makes sense. Just because a carbon steel wok works perfectly, it does not mean a carbon steel stock pot is optimal.

                      All Clad is most famous for its triply technology. That is one specific technology and like you said additional research is needed. Cuisinart MultiClad, Calphalon Triply, Tramontina triply have reputation in this area as well.

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                        grant.cook Oct 1, 2011 06:24 PM

                        A very good point, as I cringe everytime I see the folks at Crate and Barrel trying to sell some registering couple a knife set.

                        I've got cast iron, enameled cast iron, some anodized aluminum (for eggs, rice), some tri-ply - an collection that works for me.. built up over time.

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                        luminosa Sep 29, 2011 06:30 PM

                        The All Clad 7 qt stock pot is the tall narrow version across all their lines. it is pretty much the same diameter as the 4 qt 3qt pans.

                        I DO like tri-ply for my tall narrow pots: the heat is conducted up the sides of the pan better than pans that are all stainless or have a thick disk on the bottom only...conducting the heat up the sides (the aluminum layers facilitate this...) makes it heat up faster while the layers of stainless help it hold heat. Love this version of their stockpot....the wide ones tend to NOT work as well for trad. stock making as they have a broad suface for evaporation which is not always desirable. BUT, I use my 8 qt for a whole lot of things like soups, steaming things, dutch oven-uses etc. Have the 6, 8 and 12 quart which I like the latter when used with their steamer insert for steaming tamales for our family...

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                trakman Sep 29, 2011 06:36 PM

                If you can handle some cosmetic blemishes, the major All Clad irregular interrnet source is having their semi-annual sale right now through November 6. Link is www.cookwarenmore.com I have bought a couple of pieces from them to supplement my basic AC set. Might be worth a look. I also concur with "inaplasticcup"; check the internet for some base line pricing.

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                  GAfoodfan Oct 2, 2011 07:31 AM

                  I agree, it's only a good deal if you need it & will use it regularly. W/S has a 2 piece french skillet (9" & 11") on sale today for $99. I bought the set last night after years of frustration with Calphalon omelette pans that food would adhere to in a fairly thick layer despite many experiments w/ cleaners, preheating, & oils of varying types & amounts. I just finished making potatoes & eggs in the new all-clad & it was a joy--even cooking & nothing stuck to the pan. Made in USA w/ lifetime warranty makes it that much sweeter.

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                    catdoc46 Oct 2, 2011 12:30 PM

                    If you don't I will! Once you go All Clad you never go back. Be careful for deep discounts on the Internet--a fair amount of it is counterfeit (ie fake) product (yes, their is a counterfeit market for everything expensive).

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                      Jay F Oct 2, 2011 03:36 PM

                      Where, exactly -- links, please -- have you found counterfeit All Clad on the internet?

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                        catdoc46 Oct 3, 2011 06:12 PM

                        I can't say "this website does"--it's like someone else said: you know a fake Chanel bag when you see one, it just isn't the same quality. It's a gestalt thing.

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                      sueatmo Oct 3, 2011 12:51 PM

                      OK. SS, Please share. what did you decide to do?

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