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SBackes Sep 28, 2011 06:17 AM

I've been on the hunt for a nut-free gin due to allergies. I've heard back from 5 companies so far and definitely have a preference for Broker's due to their fabulous customer service, but they are a lot harder to find near me which stinks. Anyway, how do these gins compare flavor wise? Any recs for a newer gin drinker?

---Broker's

---Gordon's

---New Amsterdam

---Pinnacle

---Burnett's

--just called Tanqueray and they said it should be ok as well

(still awaiting replies from Plymouth, Hendrick's, Seagrams and Bluecoat)

thanks!

(PS I did read on here that New Amsterdam is not loved by gin enthusiasts due to its high citrus content and lack of juniper....but it may be something Id like in mixed drinks esp since Im just getting into gin)

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    hawkeyeui93 RE: SBackes Sep 28, 2011 08:31 AM

    Stuck to the ones on your list, I think Gordon's is a good value choice albeit it is a classic London Dry Gin [and you will taste/smell some juniper]. My current daily drinkers are Bombay Original [not the Sapphire] and Boodles, both of which mix well to me [with my favorite drink being a Gin Buck].

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      white light RE: SBackes Sep 28, 2011 05:35 PM

      "PS I did read on here that New Amsterdam is not loved by gin enthusiasts due to its high citrus content and lack of juniper....but it may be something Id like in mixed drinks esp since Im just getting into gin)"

      That's how I felt about it. It almost seemed like an orange vodka to me.

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        ncyankee101 RE: white light Sep 28, 2011 10:41 PM

        It is definitely light on juniper, and has an artificial citrus taste but makes a decent light-tasting G+T. I couldn't resist the deal of getting a whole 1.75 l for $13 after mail-in rebate this summer.

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          SBackes RE: ncyankee101 Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM

          I went and picked up the NA 375 ml for $5.99, and the Tanqueray airplane sized mini....figured it was worth a try. Just found out Hendrick's is safe too

          Seagrams' responded but talked all about gluten, a totatlly different thing....so awaiting a new response sigh

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        velkyn RE: SBackes Oct 4, 2011 12:57 PM

        don't know if Bluecoat has nuts in it but I find it a gin that's more citrusy than junipery but still has the juniper. For a gin, it's one of my favorites.

        1. JMF RE: SBackes Oct 8, 2011 05:20 AM

          What types of nuts are you allergic too?

          Have you done any research to find out if the compound in nuts that you are allergic too even carries over through the distillation process?

          I know that gluten doesn't, and that all unflavored spirits are gluten free.

          I have only heard about a couple of gins that use nuts, those seem to use almond or bitter almond, and in very small amounts.

          Have you ever had an allergic reaction after drinking gin?

          Bombay Sapphire and Beefeater have almonds as one of the botanicals. Have you ever drunk them?

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            hawkeyeui93 RE: JMF Oct 9, 2011 06:49 AM

            I drink Bombay Original Dry Gin regularly and it lists almond botanicals as well ...

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              JMF RE: JMF Oct 10, 2011 06:09 AM

              I looked at a gin matrix that a friend in the UK devised that lists many gins and their botanicals. Some are not available in the US.
              The following use almonds.
              All 4 Beefeater gins
              Bombay dry and Sapphire
              Berkely Square
              Boe
              Bulldog
              Citadelle and Citadelle reserve
              Ish
              Old Raj
              Pink 47

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                hawkeyeui93 RE: JMF Oct 10, 2011 08:27 AM

                No idea if this is accurate or not, but here's a site listing botanicals present in each gin brand: http://gin.findthebest.com/

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                  JMF RE: hawkeyeui93 Oct 10, 2011 11:39 AM

                  That site is incorrect in many things, don't rely on it. Actually it's terrible. it only lists some of the botanicals. I mean you can pick up a bottle of Citadelle and read all 19 botanicals and that site only lists 4. it is even wrong about categories, especially listing Plymouth gin as London dry. Plymouth gin is the only gin in the category called Plymouth Gin.

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                    hawkeyeui93 RE: JMF Oct 10, 2011 02:10 PM

                    I cannot decipher from the Citadelle website if there are 19 different botanicals in the "regular" offering, but there are certainly 19 present in the "reserve" and the website provided hereinabove shows at least 15 of them. When I look at the botanicals that are listed on my Bombay Original bottle in my possession, it has the same number of botanicals as the list cites. As I said, I have no idea if the list is accurate or not, so I guess buyer beware ...

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                      ncyankee101 RE: hawkeyeui93 Oct 10, 2011 02:24 PM

                      I have a bottle of the regular Citadelle, it lists all 19 botanicals in little pictures around the circumference of the bottle.

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                        hawkeyeui93 RE: ncyankee101 Oct 10, 2011 02:26 PM

                        Now I know ... thanks.

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              Olliegator RE: SBackes Oct 10, 2011 09:10 AM

              Tanquery and tonic with a twist of lime. I have tried many other gins including Gordon's and Bombay Sapphire, and nothing compares for me.

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                hawkeyeui93 RE: Olliegator Oct 10, 2011 09:14 AM

                I found Bombay Original makes a pretty good G 'n T as does Boodles ....

              2. JMF RE: SBackes Oct 26, 2011 06:14 AM

                I posted on this on the artisanal distillers discussion forum that I help administrate and got this answer, this is the last paragraph of the outline of a 7 page paper.

                "Based on the data submitted by the applicant, the Panel notes that proteins and peptides are not carried over into the distillate during a properly controlled distillation process, at least not in amounts above 1 mg/L. Although the analytical evidence is derived from experiments that were performed predominantly with almonds, the Panel considers that distillates made from nuts are unlikely to trigger a severe allergic reaction in susceptible individuals."

                See the whole pdf here. http://www.efsa.europa.eu/de/scdocs/d...

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                  rlee21 RE: SBackes Oct 26, 2011 09:07 AM

                  Ingredients in Hendrick's are: cucumber, juniper, coriander, caraway, cubeb, chamomile, elderflower, yarrow (older bottles have meadowsweet), rose petals, orange peel, lemon peel, angelica root and orris root. No nuts.

                  I don't care for NA in anything other than a G&T where the citrus highlight can mesh well. If you're looking for a gin to mix cocktails with, then oftentimes you need a gin with real backbone to stand up in the drink. I feel like NA in some cocktails leads to those drinks being quite unbalanced, especially with using more flavorful liqueurs. For example, in drinks like the negroni or the last word, the gin flavors will get completely buried if you use something like NA.

                  That said, I always have Gordon's, Tanqueray and Plymouth at home to mix with. Gordon's is good value and the stereotypic London Dry in the balance of juniper and other flavors. Tanqueray has a bit more structure and nuanced flavor, another really good London Dry that clocks in at slightly higher proof too. Tanqueray is one where you can sip on a bit and really understand the botanicals, whereas I don't feel like Gordon's is as refined. Plymouth is a different category of gin altogether, being softer, more rounded, more citrus and slightly less juniper. Again, different drinks could benefit from one or the other (ie. I feel that Tanqueray stands out more in a negroni). All three make good standard mixing gins.

                  Then there are the new or modern gins like Hendrick's, Nolet's, G'Vine, etc. that emphasize different botanicals from the standard set of juniper, coriander and angelica. Hendrick's is known for having cucumber and rose, for example. This category also contains some very good gins, but since their flavor profiles are so different, often they are used in cocktails that call very specifically for a certain gin. One could easily make martinis and such with these gins, but their nuance gets lost in other cocktails.

                  So, if you are just getting started, I would get either Gordon's or Tanqueray as a standard mixing gin, as well as one modern gin like Hendrick's to explore.

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