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FnB is now ByoB

  • Dapuma Sep 20, 2011 10:00 AM
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Just went to their website to see when they were going to reopen - and it is now ByoB

anyone know why they made the change?

One thing I think that is pretty cool, considering if you bring in AZ wine there is no corkage fee

Otherwise it is 15 / bottle or $5 flat beer fee

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FnB
7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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  1. Michele Laudig has the story (posted June 27) on her blog:

    http://michelelaudig.com/2011/06/fnb-...

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    1. re: hohokam

      ahh thanks

    2. Interesting. The only really good thing (other than our server), that I could say about our visit to FnB was their local-centric wine list.

      Hunt

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      FnB
      7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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      1. re: Bill Hunt

        Interesting. The many good things that I could say about my several visits to FnB would include mentions of their respect for and skillful preparation of great ingredients, their warm hospitality, and yes, their Arizona-focused wine list.

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        FnB
        7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

        1. re: hohokam

          its kind of cool you can pick up a bottle yourself and drink for half the price - i think of it as a bonus - however it does take a bit of prep ahead of time

          speaking of that - who sells the toscano dos cabezas in scottsdale / phx ?

          1. re: Dapuma

            The winery has a list of retailers and restaurants that sell their wines here:

            http://doscabezaswinery.com/distribut...

            Obviously, the list is a little out of date, but it does give you a starting point if you want to start calling around. I've generally had good luck finding Dos Cabezas wines at the Urban Grocery/Downtown Phoenix Public Market.

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            Downtown Phoenix Public Market
            721 N Central Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85004

            1. re: Dapuma

              Total Wine had the Norte and the Toscano yesterday when i was there.

            2. re: hohokam

              That was just not our experience, though we were "walk ins," and were treated as such, along with an admonition, that we had to vacate the table in about 45 mins.

              Things did not get better from the kitchen, as we only had one dish, with any heart or soul. The rest were horribly mundane, and highly pedestrian.

              After having been seated (my wife in a black dress), we noticed that other diners, around us, were offered black napkins. My wife was given a white napkin. When we left (within the allocated 45 mins.), my wife asked one of the owners about the napkins. His comment was , "well some guests get them, but then others do not." She pointed out that he had seated us, and had not offered such. His reply was along the lines of "well, you were a walk in, so I never bothered to notice." OK, made a real impression on us.

              The only thing that was noteworthy was the service. Our server was not hung up on us being a walk in. He was great, and was fun, unlike the food (only one dish to remember), and then there was the AZ wine list, which was appreciated.

              Nah, I have no use for FnB, and would never darken their door again. I wish them the best, and realize that many here love them, but I have many, much better restaurants vying for my patronage. They do not need me, nor do they need my wife - especially as we were but walk ins that evening. Never will be again.

              Hunt

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              FnB
              7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

              1. re: Bill Hunt

                That's too bad, I love the place. In fact, we're headed there next weekend. Unfortunately, the days of just stopping by are long gone because it's such a small space and so popular. We always make reservations and try to call at least a week ahead. I actually view them seating you as a walk-in as very accommodating, and a courtesy, not an admonition, to be told that they had a reservation in 45 minutes, but I am sorry to hear you had a negative experience.

                Adding to the above on BYOB - just a reminder that no corkage is charged for AZ wine. And I was told they may have their liquor license as early as next week.

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                FnB
                7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

                1. re: Rubee

                  Many here feel the same way. Matter of fact, I feel in the definite minority, and really did try to like it - but other than the service (our server) and one dish, could not find any reason, beyond the AZ-centric wine list, to do so.

                  I respect the opinions of those, who do love it, and just assume that we hit them on a really "off-night," and because we were walk-ins, were shuffled off to obscurity, with no concern for us. Stuff happens.

                  Hunt

                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                    "........... and because we were walk-ins, were shuffled off to obscurity, with no concern for us. Stuff happens."

                    Selective hospitality is never a good sign. I disagree with Bill Hunt on Mama's Fish House in Maui; agree with many of his other postings (T. Cooks & noca immediately come to mind) and respect his opinion enough to give FnB either advance notice or a wide berth since I have zero interest in being treated like I was an annoyance rather than cherished guest. There are too many other places to dine. Thanks for the heads up and honest report of your experience, Bill.

                2. re: Bill Hunt

                  I have been a walk in there before and been treated pretty well - I think that it is a case of them trying to fit you in so you can dine there vs turning you away - sounds like you might have been happpier being turned away and going with a reso another time - if I try to walk in and they say they can squeeze me in but have to leave at a certain time im always grateful they accomidated me/us not disappointed I had to give up the spot at a certain time

                  1. re: Dapuma

                    Actually, I would have been happier to not have dined there, to begin with.

                    Even when we left, the restaurant was only half-full, though we were told that we had to vacate at the time, that we did. Now, maybe all the reservations were enroute, but I do not know that.

                    As for the treatment, it was obvious that a walk-in, even with enough time to dine, is looked down upon, at least by the owners.

                    Now, had the meal been spectacular, I could probably rationalize away how I feel that we (and especially my wife) were treated, but without anything on the food-front to entice me, I have zero reasons to return and give them another chance.

                    Though the dining options have diminished recently, there are still too many other restaurants, for us to invest our dining time there.

                    Others are more than welcome to it, and I hope that they receive better treatment, than we did.

                    Good luck to all,

                    Hunt

                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                      Bill, you're driving me nuts here... I've always been a walk-in, always ordering off the el cheapo late-night menu, and I've always felt warmly welcomed like one of the family.

                      I really wish you'd give them another shot. Just stop in and have the leeks in a few weeks. Pavle will remember you.

                      1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester

                        OK I've been biting my tongue but I'm going to have to side with Bill here. I had dined there prior to their "reservations only" policy, and was treated wonderfully. Then after they changed their policy (and I was unaware), I walked in, and was sort of brushed over the entire time. I felt very uncomfortable, like they were doing me some sort of favor, and then I was swept out briskly. I hate to say it, because they work hard there and I enjoy that they are pro-vegetarian with their menu, but I probably won't go back.

                        1. re: coastalgypsy

                          Ah you see, I haven't had a chance to dine there since, either. I think the late-night thing is generally walk-ins only anyway, isn't it?

            3. Just updating that as of tomorrow FnB has their liquor license.

              Also, had a wonderful dinner there a couple of weeks ago. To start, we shared salt cod crostini with pickled eggs and olives and the still-warm hand-pulled mozzarella with white beans, tomato, and pesto. For dinner, I LOVED my braised rabbit with corn grits, tomatillos, Hatch chiles, and purslane (one of the best rabit dishes I've ever had), while E raved about his mesquite-grilled Creekstone ribeye with chimichurri. Of course, had to have the butterscotch pudding for dessert.

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              FnB
              7133 E Stetson Dr, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

               
               
               
               
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              1. re: Rubee

                Will they still offer discounted corkage on Arizona wines, or does corkage go away altogether? If I recall correctly, our liquor laws allowed for one or the other but not both. I had thought Pavle's upcoming wine shop would go nicely with their interim policy.

                1. re: themis

                  My understanding is that Arizona doesn't allow BYOB (with or without corkage fees) at licensed establishments where alcohol is sold. I could be wrong about that--the laws here are sufficiently convoluted that my mind gets tied into knots whenever I try to read through them.

                  1. re: hohokam

                    Correct. If you have a liquor license, you can't be BYOB. It is one or the other, but BYOB has some strict parameters, which are codified under Arizona's administrative rules as opposed to statute.

                    1. re: hohokam

                      There are several considerations:

                      The license, and then the seating capacity, so it will depend on a couple of things there.

                      Good luck,

                      Hunt