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liger Sep 19, 2011 12:31 PM

I'll be in the city for a weekend in Oct, looking for advice for lunch/brunch and dinner.

Saturday - Lunch, something quick and cheap, around midtown...thinking shake shack. but wouldn't mind trying something new.

Dinner - this is going to have to be early as we are watching a show at 8pm. Leaning towards db bistro right now, but again I welcome all suggestions

Sunday - Brunch, any must try places for brunch? village/soho area? locanda verde looks really good, prune, balthazar or even minetta tavern? should we expect lineups everywhere?

Dinner - I've secured Babbo and Craft for 730pm already - which one should we stick with?

Thanks!

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Babbo
110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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    nmprisons RE: liger Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM

    I much prefer Craft to Babbo, but that is mostly because (1) I enjoy the cocktail program at Craft, (2) Babbo is usually too noisy for my taste, and (3) the service at Craft is significantly better. I think the quality of the food is pretty comparable (though I much prefer the desert offerings at Craft).

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    Babbo
    110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

    Craft
    43 E. 19th St., New York, NY 10003

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      kathryn RE: liger Sep 19, 2011 02:10 PM

      > Saturday - Lunch, something quick and cheap, around midtown...thinking shake shack. but wouldn't mind trying something new.

      Any specific cuisine? Maybe a food truck? Do you want take out or a sit town place?

      > Dinner - this is going to have to be early as we are watching a show at 8pm. Leaning towards db bistro right now, but again I welcome all suggestions

      Where is your theatre (intersection)? How much do you wish to spend on your dinner? Can you go up a little in price from db bistro

      > Sunday - Brunch, any must try places for brunch? village/soho area? locanda verde looks really good, prune, balthazar or even minetta tavern? should we expect lineups everywhere?

      Locanda Verde, Prune, and Balthazar will all likely have lines; I've been to Minetta Tavern recently for brunch and there weren't any lines. Prune doesn't take brunch reservations, but the other three you mentioned do.

      > Dinner - I've secured Babbo and Craft for 730pm already - which one should we stick with?

      Hard to say, both are very good in terms of food but very different atmospheres and cuisines. What are you looking for? Craft is more modern looking and spacious, but Babbo is in the heart of the Village and is a renovated townhouse and feels much more cozy. However, Babbo can be loud (ask for a 2nd floor table if that bothers you) and the musical selection (rock'n'roll) can feel out of place at times. I've had great service at Craft and very good service at Babbo (especially when getting help choosing wine), but the host at Babbo can be a little cold at times.

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      Babbo
      110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

      Minetta Tavern
      113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

      Balthazar
      80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

      Prune
      54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      Locanda Verde
      377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

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        Sneakeater RE: kathryn Sep 19, 2011 02:56 PM

        I think you should stick with Babbo just because reservations there are so much harder to get.

        You can almost always get a reservation at Craft, with a little flexibility. So you can be pretty assured of being able to eat there on subsequent visits to New York. But a prime-time reservation at Babbo is like a gift from the gods. This might be your only chance.

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        Babbo
        110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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          nmprisons RE: Sneakeater Sep 19, 2011 03:48 PM

          I guess I would prefer the better restaurant (for the circumstances of the meal) to the harder-to-get-into restaurant. If Babbo isn't right for this occasion, then the fact that it is hard to get in doesn't much matter.

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          Babbo
          110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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            Sneakeater RE: nmprisons Sep 19, 2011 04:57 PM

            I'm not going to fight with you about that. But as between two excellent restaurants -- and I think there's no doubt that both Babbo and Craft are excellent -- the fact that this might be your only opportunity to go to one of them, while the other is usually easily available, isn't a factor to be disregarded.

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            Babbo
            110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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              nmprisons RE: Sneakeater Sep 19, 2011 07:13 PM

              sorry, my last post was a little grumpy. i appreciate your (much more mature than mine) reply.

              you are right.

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          liger RE: kathryn Sep 19, 2011 09:57 PM

          Would prefer a sit down - How is lupa for lunch? Don't care about type of cuisine for this meal

          Good to know that some places take brunch reservations - locanda verde looks very good.

          Price pre theater isn't an issue, time is. Show starts at 8pm so can't do a long dinner - what did you have in mind?

          We don't drink - does that make the decision any easier?

          thanks kathryn

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            kathryn RE: liger Sep 20, 2011 06:11 AM

            Lupa is good for lunch! It's less crowded than dinner, and they serve basically all day so you can have a later lunch if you wish. It's not really cheap/quick/near Midtown though?

            For dinner pre-theater, I'd do a 6:00pm reservation or so, and most places nearby will be used to getting you out before curtain time. Just make sure they know -- mention it when making the reservation and when you arrive. Where exactly is your theatre? If we have the intersection, we can try to make recommendations closer by.

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            Lupa
            170 Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012

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              liger RE: kathryn Sep 20, 2011 09:20 AM

              Ok this is the current itinerary:

              Sat - Lupa for Lunch, still DB Bistro for now, the theater is at 8th and 45th st
              Sun - Locanda Verde for Brunch, Craft for Dinner (although I'm holding onto that Babbo reservation right until the last moment just in case we change our mind)

              is lupa lunch and early dinner too much food? we're choosing craft because we are thinking that babbo will be similar to lupa (good assumption or not?)

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              Lupa
              170 Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012

              Babbo
              110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

              Locanda Verde
              377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

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                kathryn RE: liger Sep 20, 2011 09:33 AM

                I like Lupa, but I love Babbo. I'd definitely do Babbo over Lupa. I'm with Sneakeater in that the Babbo reservation is much harder to secure, too.

                That is also a lot of Italian food, too. I'd try to switch it up a little.

                If you're interested in brunch options, most places here also do brunch on Saturdays. It's not just a Sunday thing.

                I'd do the following:
                Sat - brunch at Locanda Verde, pre-theatre dinner at db bistro
                Sun - lunch somewhere non-Italian/non-French, Babbo for dinner

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                Lupa
                170 Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012

                Babbo
                110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                Locanda Verde
                377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

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                  liger RE: kathryn Sep 21, 2011 07:59 AM

                  what do you think of the modern bar room instead of db bistro? is it more casual? is everything tapas sized? and how much time would we need to eat there?

                  thanks!

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                    Cheeryvisage RE: liger Sep 21, 2011 08:13 AM

                    I haven't been to DB Bistro, but The Modern Bar Room is pretty casual, especially during the day since it caters to MoMA visitors. It feels more formal later in the evening due to office workers in suits having drinks at the bar.

                    Everything there is appetizer or half-entree portion. You should be pretty satisfied though if you order one item from each section. A meal can be done in around 1.5 hours and maybe less. You should tell you server about your time restriction so he/she can pace everything accordingly.

                    The Modern Bar Room is one of my favorite restaurants and I drop by one or twice a month. I really like their Alsatian Soup, Squab, Duck Breast, and Beignets.

                    ETA: You should be able to walk to your theater from the Bar Room in about 20-25 minutes (due to traffic lights).

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                    The Modern
                    9 West 53rd Street, New York, NY 10019

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          plf515 RE: liger Sep 19, 2011 04:54 PM

          I would skip Babbo and go to Craft. I haven't been to Babbo for a while, and won't be back. When I've been there, the food was great but the staff was rude, our seats were awful and the music was way too loud. At Craft, they try to make the customer happy. At Babbo, they try to make Mario happy.

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          Babbo
          110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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            kim e RE: liger Sep 21, 2011 09:03 AM

            I'm a shake shack fan, so I would do that for lunch.
            For brunch, I like locanda verde over prune and balthazar. It might be packed. All 3 will be packed. My go to spots for brunch are five points and clinton st. Five points takes resos.
            I'm a Babbo fan (not a huge fan, but a fan), but haven't been to Craft (I've been to Craftbar, which doesn't count, but fwiw, I wasn't impressed at all). It seems like if you choose Craft, your entire itinerary is just variations of American food (with a touch of European), which is fine, but NYC has such amazing ethnic food that you can't find in other parts of the country.

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            Babbo
            110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

            Balthazar
            80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

            Five Points
            31 Great Jones St, New York, NY 10012

            Craftbar
            900 Broadway, New York, NY 10003

            Prune
            54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

            Locanda Verde
            377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

            Clinton Street Baking Co.
            4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

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              liger RE: kim e Sep 21, 2011 09:21 AM

              good points....and here's the revised list. thanks to everyone for all your help!

              saturday lunch - shake shack, dinner at the modern bar room
              sunday - brunch - locanda verde, dinner at babbo

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                nmprisons RE: liger Sep 21, 2011 09:24 AM

                Why would you have two meals at an Italian place the same day? I think your Saturday plan looks great, but I would stick with Craft on Sunday.

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                  liger RE: nmprisons Sep 21, 2011 09:38 AM

                  i don't really consider brunch at locanda verde to be all that italian. we can probably go to craft again next time we're in the city...we got lucky with babbo this time, next time we might not be so lucky...

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