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How do you like your feet?

ipsedixit Sep 11, 2011 08:11 PM

Pig trotters? Cow? The always ubiquitous chicken at Dim Sum? Duck perhaps? Goose maybe?

Does anyone prepare or eat sheep or lamb's feet?

What about something like kangaroo?

And what of deer feet?

So, what say you.

How do you take your feet?

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  1. inaplasticcup RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2011 08:53 PM

    The porcine kind would be my fave of the aforementioned. Korean style - boiled or steamed until tender and dipped in a sweet/sour/spicy soy dipping sauce with lots of fresh chopped green onion.

    YUMS.

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      joonjoon RE: inaplasticcup Sep 17, 2011 02:11 AM

      For me ssam jang and shrimp sauce is a must for Korean pig feet. Even better is wrapping it in some perilla leaves with slivered garlic and chili peppers!

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        inaplasticcup RE: joonjoon Sep 17, 2011 05:44 AM

        Damn. You're making me think I want to eat that at 5:44 AM...

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          plf515 RE: joonjoon Sep 21, 2011 03:08 AM

          Pretty much anything is good with garlic and chili peppers!
          I work near Korea town, I may get this today

      2. Will Owen RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2011 09:07 PM

        The pig's feet that so delighted me in Chartres were the sort you'll find in James Beard: simmered gently until so tender the bones are almost edible, then split open and the bones and meat extracted. The bones are discarded, the meat chopped up and mixed with sausage meat and laid back upon the skin, and the whole thing rolled back into shape. These are then spread with mustard, rolled in crumbs, drizzled with butter and then grilled to a golden brown. Mrs. O, on the other hand, prefers them cooked just until the meat is done, then she tears into them and licks and gnaws the meat and edible gristle off the bones.

        I think sheep's feet are the "pieds" referred to in the old bistro dish "Pieds et Paquets." The "paquets" are little bundles of tripe. I believe the components of the dish are cooked separately and then combined in the gratin pan, sauced and crumbed, and then given a short trip through a hot oven. My pa-in-law had that at Café Europa in Aix-en-Provence, while I had the Tripes Provençal. I didn't get a taste of his, as he was not the sharing kind, so I can't tell you what the feet are like. Guess I'll just have to go back, darn it.

        I like the brown chicken feet at dim sum. I don't care for the cold white ones. And I tolerate the occasional calve's foot in menudo or Bun Bo Hue, but it's really just a PITA as far as I'm concerned, taking up space better used for something more completely edible.

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          lemons RE: ipsedixit Sep 11, 2011 09:30 PM

          I buy them to add body to a beef daube. After cooking in that sauce for a good while, I remove them, let them cool, and it's cook's treat, picking happily at them. The daube is dinner-party stuff, a situation when no one is apt to be picking the foot and sucking on the gristly bits.

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            wattacetti RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2011 08:51 AM

            Feet - still one of those inexpensive "off cuts" as no chef has yet managed to popularize them as a lux item.

            I had lamb's feet in Burgos - they were so good that I wound up ordering a second ración which had the waiter looking at me funny. They had been braised in tomato and wine and were really tender. I would make them but it's hard to get lamb's feet

            I don't generally order the chicken feet at dim sum because the restaurants are inconsistent with their preparation. I *would* order them if I were in Taiwan. But there's a dry prep that's less messy to eat than the steamed ones and make a nice alternative to wings while watching television.

            Goose feet a rarity, except in Taiwan, where they're just expensive. Duck is always nice.

            Pig - am working on a deboned sous-vide trotter right now. My favorite is braised in soy, but I'll eat them in pretty much any preparation. Cow is nice, again braised.

            Bear paw (which is a foot) was somewhat fatty for my taste. Never seen kangaroo or deer, and I can only get rabbit's foot as a keychain. I get the same expression of horror asking for rabbit foot as if I was asking for rabbit ears.

            1. JungMann RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2011 09:21 AM

              My father used to make a special treat of lamb or cow trotter's in a spicy yellow curry, simmered very slowly until the tender meat absolutely floated in sauce made sticky and rich from marrow and collagen.

              I usually have pork trotters in the freezer to add body to stews, though they are also very good braised until tender and then deep fried so that the skin becomes shatteringly crisp while the meat is soft and juicy. I seem to also recall another recipe for a whole trotter, deboned and then filled with sausages and savories, similar to the Chinese process of deboning duck and goose feet and then treating them like a casing for pork sausage.

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                luckyfatima RE: JungMann Sep 17, 2011 06:15 AM

                I am guessing your dad's cow or mutton/lamb trotters was the dish paya? I do love paya even though it is awkward to eat. I prefer beef paya. Standard paya is eaten with naan. But I had a friend whose father in-law was from a place in Northern Pakistani Punjab called Attock---her father in-law showed me how they made their paya. It contained a handful of chickpeas slow simmered with the feet so you got a few in your bowl of paya. They soaked up the foot juice and taste so delicious. And he said in Attock they eat their paya with makkai ki roti, or corn flour roti instead of naan, and he made some for us. It was a very memorable meal, so rustic and rich.

                In a lot of other fancy/festive dishes the secret to richness of flavor is to stick a secret foot in the gravy. Many people put a foot in their nihari or haleem. I have also had foot in kunna gosht which is goat meat cooked in a clay pot buried in a fired sandpit for a few hours. I love kunna gosht with foot because you get all of the meat chunks but in the sticky, thick rich paya type broth.

                In Pakistan and India people say that eating paya helps people with achy joints and knee problems-anything to do with bones/joints.

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                  Will Owen RE: luckyfatima Sep 20, 2011 02:26 PM

                  If your everyday diet is not a rich one, that may be true. However, if you're eating like most Americans, this is a good way to have your first experience of gout. All those gooey yummy melted collagens are gout-inducing, as are gelatin and anything made from malt. I've learned sometime back that if I have a nice rich broth of any kind, I need to drink lots of water and then take a pill before I go to bed. And a good stout gumbo and a pint of beer? Don't even think about it!

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                    JungMann RE: luckyfatima Sep 20, 2011 05:51 PM

                    It was indeed paya. I think lamb and cow trotters are mostly popular amongst South Asians because even at our Palestinian- and Egyptian-owned butchers, trotters were labeled "paya" in Roman script. Your Punjabi dish sounds like a good variation -- the kind I grew up came with just a simple sauce and plenty of chopped cilantro to balance the funky richness from the paya. I'll have to try trotters in haleem, as if that dish could get any richer!

                2. K K RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2011 02:08 PM

                  Ahhh pork trotters

                  - Okinawan style grilled trotters (tonsoku yaki) 豚足焼 with spicy bean sauce (doubanjiang) on the side
                  - Taiwanese style braised pig feet (particularly Hakka Taiwanese style 萬巒豬腳 for extra richness)
                  - Hong Kong style stewed pig feet with nam yu sauce 南乳豬手 (pork hock with fermented bean curd, good in claypot) that goes well with lo mein egg noodles, or pork trotter stewed with dried pickled plum 話梅豬手in claypot
                  - German pig's knuckle schwein hoxen
                  - boiled then steamed pork trotter, sliced into thin pieces (or cut up/diced), then dip with soy sauce paste, garlic, and vinegar
                  - in soup with red dates and other herbs/spices
                  - Korean style with chili paste, lettuce wrap, raw garlic

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                    wew RE: ipsedixit Sep 12, 2011 02:12 PM

                    Dim Sum duck all the way, esp with the turnip underneath. I'm most happy when, as a solo, I'm put at the AC table so the odd bone misshap goes unremarked upon.

                    1. vil RE: ipsedixit Sep 13, 2011 09:44 AM

                      Like many here, my feet of choice would be the pig's, and I would happily take them in any form I could get my hands on, usually braised or stewed, be it Chinese style or German style. I am not too particular about how they season it, as long as it is succulent and fall-off-the-bone tender. I would order it in a heartbeat when I see it on the menu.

                      Some styles worthy of mention: a Chinese one that one traditionally prepares, in huge batches, when there is a pregancy in the household. It is a pungent stew made with a lot of ginger and specific type of sweet vinegar, and can be addictive.

                      Another of my favourite is the smoked hock, Cantonese style. Served cold and sliced:

                      http://www.suling.idv.tw/wp-content/u...

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                        wattacetti RE: vil Sep 14, 2011 08:08 AM

                        I'd like to thank you for the bloglink - it's really interesting reading.

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                          Will Owen RE: wattacetti Sep 15, 2011 10:38 AM

                          It might be nice if I could, but all I get is a Content Forbidden message. ??????

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                            wattacetti RE: Will Owen Sep 15, 2011 11:20 AM

                            Drop the part of the direct link to the photo and then go to the 2010 blog archive entries.

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                              vil RE: Will Owen Sep 15, 2011 07:19 PM

                              Sorry, bad link above. The smoked hock is the second picture from the top, at the following:

                              http://www.suling.idv.tw/%E5%85%A8%E5...

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                              vil RE: wattacetti Sep 15, 2011 07:23 PM

                              You are welcome. I actually haven't yet, but will do some more reading there when I have a chance!

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                              paulj RE: vil Sep 14, 2011 09:35 AM

                              The roast duck part of the deli at my Chinese grocery (99Ranch) sells soy braised pigs feet.

                              One of my more memorable meals in Ecuador consisted of mondongo (a cows foot soup) for the soup coarse, and breaded pigs feet for the main. In typical Ecuadorian style, the mondongo was finished with a bit of milk and ground peanuts. But the main feature of a soup like that is the extreme body. There's almost enough gelatin to glue your lips together!

                            4. bagelman01 RE: ipsedixit Sep 15, 2011 10:49 AM

                              Jellied Calve's feet, otherwise known at P'tcha, an eatern European Jewish delicay of the lower classes.

                              1. Duppie RE: ipsedixit Sep 15, 2011 11:12 AM

                                At island rum shops a popular snack is Souse, which is boiled pigs feet at room temperature marinated in a green sauce consisting of culantro,lime juice,garlic,onions and scotch bonnet peppers, then server with raw onions,cucumbers and even more scotch bonnet peppers.To be sure an acquired taste but great for soaking up some rum and high wine.

                                1. Veggo RE: ipsedixit Sep 20, 2011 06:19 PM

                                  I favor snake's feet. They are eco- friendly like stone crab claws in that you remove the feet and release the live animal back to the wild. You may have noticed around the world that I have eaten pretty much all of them.

                                  Turning the page,
                                  I like my feet
                                  on Bourbon Street

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                                    ipsedixit RE: Veggo Sep 20, 2011 09:35 PM

                                    That's sort of like millipede feet. I can eat two, three, four or even 20, and heck, the thing still has hundreds more to spare.

                                  2. porker RE: ipsedixit Sep 20, 2011 06:47 PM

                                    Foot of choice: the pig.
                                    Like other posters, I'll take them however available, but favorites: pickled where the tendon is also chewy goodness, ragout de patte de cochon (quebec terroir), brasserie patte de cochon (more of a hock than a foot).
                                    Also enjoy them in a corn soup. Also chinese cold sliced.
                                    Was at a food festival 2 weeks ago. This one guy slit open a pig leg from hock to foot, removed the bone, stuffed with a type of sausage, stitched the leg back up and roasted. When done, he cut the leg in about 1" slices then braised them in a pork-lentil stew. This...was....good.
                                    Memorable: cow foot soup from Belize street cart; unctious.

                                    Have yet to try a proper, fried Schweinshaxe
                                    http://mygermantravels.com/wp-content...
                                    again more of a hock, but a beautiful thing!

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                                      plf515 RE: ipsedixit Sep 21, 2011 03:11 AM

                                      There's a yummy Yeminite dish called cow foot soup.

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                                        chocomel RE: ipsedixit Sep 21, 2011 02:01 PM

                                        I grew up eating soup made with chicken feet and beans. The soup turned a light purple color (possibly from the beans). I have not had this in years and can't really identify the beans. Has anyone else ever seen/had this (my family's background is Chinese.. so it is most likely a chinese dish)?

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                                          piomike RE: ipsedixit Nov 10, 2011 02:06 PM

                                          Basque style Pigs Feet

                                          Split cut into 4" pieces. Simmered in salted water with a few bay leaves until falling off the bone then strained hot onto a serving platter and pour a mixture of white wine vinegar, dijon mustard, garlic salt, pepper and chopped white onions over the top. Sometimes chopped hard boiled eggs also.

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                                            bwinter714 RE: ipsedixit Nov 14, 2011 01:21 PM

                                            Hmm, I like my feet........ attached to my ankles :)

                                            1. letsindulge RE: ipsedixit Nov 14, 2011 04:54 PM

                                              There is a Filipino preparation of pig's feet called paksiw na pata. It's basically a braise with vinegar, copious amounts of garlic, soy sauce, bay leaves, and whole peppercorns.

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                                                Duppie RE: letsindulge Nov 14, 2011 06:36 PM

                                                works well with pig's heads also...

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                                                  KaimukiMan RE: letsindulge Nov 15, 2011 12:47 PM

                                                  I've had that once, it was good - i just thought it was using pigs feet to make adobo... didn't know it had a specific name. Also popular here is crispy pata. A multi step process of some boiling (often in 7up), then reboiling with baking soda, then letting it 'air dry' overnight and then marinade in patis then flouring and frying. So good, I can feel my arteries hardening already.

                                                  (spell check kept wanting me to marinade in Paris, now that would be a recipe. Wonder whats wrong with Lyon or Marseille or Bordeaux?)

                                                  http://www.filipinofoodrecipes.net/cr...

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                                                    letsindulge RE: KaimukiMan Nov 15, 2011 03:02 PM

                                                    I actually wondered the same thing since the sauce ingredients are identical. Maybe it's the proportions of each ingredient that differentiates the two? I do know that there are saucy, & dry versions of adobo, but paksiw is normally cooked until the sauce "glazes" the pork hock.

                                                    I've not had the crispy pata before. Sounds good though.

                                                2. rworange RE: ipsedixit Nov 14, 2011 07:13 PM

                                                  Guatemala - Caldo de pata

                                                  This site has a great photo and description
                                                  http://antiguadailyphoto.com/2009/01/...

                                                  "The caldo de patas stew or stock is made with muscles and bones from the lower legs of either pork or cow, as well as belly, head and other such entrails along with potatos, carrots, güisquil (chayote), elote (maize/corn) and ayote or chilacayote (squash and/or sweet squash). The caldo de patas can be blanco or rojo (white or red); the red takes its color from tomatoes and chiles primarily. "

                                                  Gautemalan soups are like New England boiled dinners but with soup. There is a bowl of soup with the meat in it ... in this case it could be a cow's foot. Then there will be a platter with an ear of corn, squash, carrots, cabbage, potatoes, avocado as well as condiments such as hot sauce or those in the photo. You add the veggies and condiments to the soup as you like.

                                                  Polish:
                                                  -pig feet soup with cabbage, potatoes and saurkraut
                                                  - jellied pigs feet

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