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Jetlagged Sep 2, 2011 09:07 AM

Classic Retro Cocktail Bars

Just moved to NY (from SF) and am looking for some classic cocktail bars - something that calls up the 20's through 50's feeling. I've been to the Campbell Apartment and loved the room and decor but it was SRO and, I thought, overpriced for standing in a tiny spot on the floor being bumped by the waitstaff and commuters/tourists packed in. I've also found the Monkey Bar - great murals - but was turned off by the red & white checked tablecloths which looked like a diner. I was at the Oak Room at the Plaza years ago, too, and enjoyed the ambiance...don't know how it is now.

Any suggestions for something sophisticated, non-touristy, with background music low enough to have a conversation? In SF I was a fan of Original Joe's (before the fire), Tadich Grill, the Redwood Room at the Clift (before its modernization), and Bourbon and Branch. Thanks very much for your insights and suggestions.

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    ukitali Oct 5, 2011 11:44 AM

    Flatiron Lounge has a nice vibe. I've only been on a weekday but it was quiet, yet lively and we had some interesting cocktails.

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    Flatiron Lounge
    37 W 19th St, New York, NY 10011

    1. GraydonCarter Oct 5, 2011 10:49 AM

      Watching Ken Burns’ PBS documentary “Prohibition,” I saw lots of details about New York’s important role in the 1920s bootlegging trade, and they described the more popular speakeasy bars.

      There is a walking tour of the Bowery called “Satan’s Seat” from Big Onion Walking Tours.

      “We’ll be stopping at John McGurk’s Bar on the Bowery for two reasons: One, it was the most notorious saloon in late 19th century and a temperance target; second, because in 1922 a fire broke out in building, which threatened the warehouse next door — where the federal government stored all of the liquor it seized.”

      "Other saucy stops include the former speakeasy Chumley’s in the West Village and Bigelow’s Pharmacy, which once offered prescriptions for liquor."

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        penthouse pup Oct 5, 2011 02:07 PM

        Alas, Chumley's remains closed after the walls collapsed several years past.

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        orthorunner Sep 9, 2011 09:52 AM

        In addition to the speakeasies noted above, try out Bar Centrale in midtown. It has a jazz theme, with low music and black and white photographs hung on the walls. Only make classic cocktails, unlike some of the more creative places. I personally enjoy places like Death & Co more, but if you want to try a more straight-and-narrow classic place, it fits the bill.

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        Death & Co.
        433 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

        Bar Centrale
        324 W 46th St, New York, NY 10036

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          Jetlagged Oct 1, 2011 07:06 AM

          Thanks very much - will put these on the list as well.

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          Jetlagged Sep 9, 2011 06:27 AM

          Thanks very much for all the great suggestions! I'll try not to hit them all in one night :)

          1. thew Sep 6, 2011 07:35 AM

            pegu club fits the bill

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              kathryn Sep 6, 2011 07:15 AM

              You may also want to look into the bar at The Lamb's Club. Drink list is by Sasha Petraske. Very expensive though.

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              The Lambs Club
              132 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

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                asgaynor Sep 5, 2011 08:13 PM

                For great cocktails without as much shtick as the speakeasies, try Amor y Amargo on 6th St. near Avenue A (part of the Cienfuegos complex). My absolute favorite spot in the city for cocktails right now. They heavily emphasize the use of bitters (it's a co-venture with the owners of Bittermens bitters).

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                Cienfuegos
                95 Avenue A, New York, NY 10009

                Amor y Amargo
                443 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

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                  kathryn Sep 5, 2011 08:40 PM

                  I really like Amor y Amargo (one of the best negroni's in town) but the decor is not the "20's through 50's feeling" the OP is looking for.

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                  Amor y Amargo
                  443 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

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                  kathryn Sep 2, 2011 11:31 AM

                  Maybe fit in a drink at Minetta Tavern or a few fingers of scotch at Keens' bar?

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                  Keens
                  72 West 36th St., New York, NY 10018

                  Minetta Tavern
                  113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

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                    penthouse pup Sep 2, 2011 02:38 PM

                    You can't hear yourself think at Minetta (now, the old place was reliably empty except for a few pro's at the bar...) Agree with Keene's and you should consider the 21 Club...and the bar at the Sheraton Russell Hotel on Park and 37th is quiet, calm, strangely removed from bustle of the area...

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                    21 Club
                    21 West 52nd Street, New York, NY 10019

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                    melo7 Sep 2, 2011 10:11 AM

                    Silver Lining, the new offering from the people that brought you Little Branch fits your needs.

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                    Little Branch
                    22 Seventh Ave South, New York, NY 10014

                    Silver Lining
                    75 Murray St, New York, NY 10007

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                      ANin Sep 2, 2011 10:10 AM

                      Weatherup (Tribeca + the original in Brooklyn). Ward III. Little Branch. Milk & Honey. PDT.

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                      Little Branch
                      22 Seventh Ave South, New York, NY 10014

                      Please Don't Tell
                      113 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10009

                      Milk and Honey
                      134 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

                      Ward III
                      111 Reade St, New York, NY 10013

                      Weather Up
                      159 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

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                        small h Sep 2, 2011 10:00 AM

                        The Raines Law Room struck me as pretty retro. And you will not be bumped or jostled, since there's no standing allowed (or there wasn't when I was there last, anyway). I'm also a longtime and passionate fan of Temple Bar.

                        http://www.raineslawroom.com/
                        http://www.templebarnyc.com/

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                        Temple Bar
                        332 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

                        Raines Law Room
                        48 W 17th St, New York, NY 10011

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                          gort Sep 2, 2011 12:23 PM

                          Seconding Raines Law Room.

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                          Raines Law Room
                          48 W 17th St, New York, NY 10011

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                            taboo Sep 6, 2011 07:07 AM

                            I also agree with Raines, but Pegu is really good and totally retro cocktails in Soho

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                              kathryn Sep 6, 2011 07:11 AM

                              Retro as in emulating a 1880s British Gentlemen's club in Burma though. It's a great place but don't try to go on weekends, when it's super loud and crowded.

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                                ml77 Oct 2, 2011 09:23 AM

                                kathryn,

                                I assume this comment is meant for Pegu, right? Because I've been to Raines Law Room on a Saturday night and they really limit the size of the crowd so that it's not loud or crowded. Just wanted to make clear for folks who might get confused.

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                                Raines Law Room
                                48 W 17th St, New York, NY 10011

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                                  kathryn Oct 2, 2011 03:22 PM

                                  Correct - Pegu Club is modeled after a British Gentlemen's club in Burma and gets loud and crowded on the weekends.

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                                  Pegu Club
                                  77 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

                        2. Spiritchaser Sep 2, 2011 09:49 AM

                          Just FYI - the Oak Room Bar is currently closed due to some litigation. Don't know if they fit the bill but you can check out Death and Company, Employees Only, The Beagle, Bemelman's Bar.

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                          Employees Only
                          510 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                          Death & Co.
                          433 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

                          Oak Room
                          10 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

                          Bemelmans Bar
                          35 E 76th St, New York, NY 10021

                          The Beagle
                          162 Avenue A, New York, NY 10009

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