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I am so excited to be coming to New York this Saturday, where I'll be staying in the Lower East Side until I fly back to SF on Tuesday night (9/6). The following are the establishments currently on my gastronomic radar (some recommended by people i trust and others which I have been researching online.) I would greatly appreciate any feedback from locals on which places I can skip out on and which are not to be missed!

Prune : I can't budge on this one, because I am absolutely in love with Gabrielle's book and the restaurant as she describes it. How have New York diners responded to the release of Blood, Bones, and Butter?

Xi'an Fine Foods - lamb burger and whatever else looks good

Katz's pastrami - please advise on this... is it really as amazing as some people have led me to believe?

Russ & Daughters - just a snack

Fatty Crab - worth all the hype? which location is better? why does only one of them accept reservations? Is it hard to get a table for a Sunday lunch in the meat-packing district FC? Anyone wanna recommend Fatty Cue instead? (I'm happy to venture into Brooklyn for some truly great food.)

Speaking of Brooklyn, Roberta's: is it actually better than pizza in Manhattan?

Korzo Haus - really close to wear I'm staying, and looks pretty damn awesome.

Momofuku - super psyched to try any of them except Ma Peche (I can't imagine it's different enough from the Slanted Door in SF). I am waking up tomorrow at 7am (pacific) to book a dinner at Ko, though I won't be heartbroken if I can't get in. Is dinner worth the cost? This would be my one major splurge.

Torrisi Italian Specialties: yeah, I saw it on Bourdain's show. It looks like I would love it. Care to share your impressions/experiences?

And I think at some point I need to experience a real NYC halal cart?

Is it necessary to try a Danny Meyer restaurant? I've already been to Shake Shack, which was great but definitely didn't change my life.

Feel free to throw in some other names if you feel they're really apt. Thank you!

Note:
I have been to New York a few times, but have always been visiting my strictly kosher russian and uzbekistani family there. I'm sure you can imagine why i have yet to try any of the above restaurants!

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Russ & Daughters
179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

Fatty Crab
643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

Ma Peche
15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

Torrisi Italian Specialties
250 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

Korzo Haus
178 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

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  1. Prune, Xian, Katz's and Russ and daughters are all great. Fatty crab is fine, but not amazing or worth hype. My one meal at Ko was amazing; if you think meals at this price point are worth it, this one certainly is. The Danny Meyer restaurant most loved/ discussed/ polarizing on this board is Eleven Madison Park. Though they're incredibly different places, I prefer the more casual atmosphere and more interesting food at Ko.

    A recent Roberta's discussion:

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    1. re: rose water

      thanks rose, but i think you forgot a link...

      1. re: rose water

        Ah the misadventures of using CH on an iPhone...

        Can't edit my post above. Roberta's discussion here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/794261
        Great Manhattan alternatives include Keste, Co., (and Motorino--I haven't been but trust the commentary)

      2. I have really strong feelings about how good Torrisi is. It's really exceptional, especially for the price. I've been there several times, and it's always wonderful, no matter what they're serving that evening. Make sure you get there ridiculously early in order to get a table easily and quickly. Labor Day weekend should make that easier, though.

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        1. re: alysonlaurel

          Alyson - have you been to Torrisi for lunch? I can see that lunch and dinner are extremely different, and unfortunately it looks like my dinner slots are full...

          1. re: the mess

            I have been to Torrisi various times - for both lunch and dinner. Dinner is a $50 (or is it $55?) prix fixe and is fantastic. Lunch is also great, but it's sandwiches only (and some antipasti). It's a completely different experience - lunch is no reservations, just grab a table if you see one or take your sandwich to go. The turkey is transcendental - best turkey ever. Worth the trip for a great sandwich.

            1. re: the mess

              Yes, I've been for lunch. I agree with Barcelonian that it's great for lunch, but that it's a totally different experience. The turkey really is the best turkey sandwich ever.

          2. Your list looks good. Skip Fatty Crab, especially if you are from San Fran. Likewise skip the cart. Gotham Bar is excellent and you may like that. I would also aim for a classic NY steak perhaps, likely Lugers. Yes Katz's is worth visiting, of only for the spot itself. Have fun.

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            Fatty Crab
            643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

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            1. re: comiendosiempre

              For what it's worth, there really isn't any Malaysian food in SF, save for a few dishes at some obnoxious Pan-Asian restaurants.

              Also, street food is not one of our strong points. There is this whole food truck scene now, but it feels kind of forced and everything is just deep-fried-something-that-was-already-good.

            2. Your itinerary looks good.

              Katz's is definitely worth a try for pastrami on rye. Note: they don't have great rye bread, but they have great pastrami.

              Fatty Crab probably won't be too crowded on Sunday because most people will be dining out for a more traditional brunch (pancakes, french toast).

              If you're only interested in pizza, and are a solo diner, Roberta's may not make sense. I'd do Motorino instead.

              If you can't get into Ko, you can always try one of his other restaurants, don't forget.

              Yes to the halal cart. Try the Halal Guys cart at 53rd and 6th. Make sure you go to the southEAST corner before 8pm, and the southWEST corner after 8pm. They have yellow bags with a red circular logo that says Halal Guys: We Are Different. Don't use too much red sauce.

              Consider also:

              * WD-50 for molecular gastronomy and excellent cocktails. Order a la carte for the best experience. Try the cold fried chicken or the eggs benedict. And the aerated foie gras. And whatever cocktail has "suspension of disbelief" in it.

              * Txikito for Basque tapas. Don't miss the suckling pig, miss the sofrito/chorizo/quail egg pintxo, croquettas, padron peppers, suckling pig, torreja dessert or whatever is on the daily specials board, like this oyster mushroom carpaccio I had once where the mushrooms were sliced incredibly thin.

              * Zabb Elee for Issan (Thai) food, especially their excellent larb, sauteed Chinese broccoli with crispy pork, and more obscure dishes. No pad thai. No curries.

              * Takashi for local/sustainable Japanese yakiniku. Awesome high-tech electric grills. Try the uni/shiso/wagyu dish, beef belly, short ribs, heart, liver, sweetbreads, first stomach, third stomach, four stomach, tendon, or whatever is good that day. I'm partial to the chuck roll sukiyaki they have Monday through Wednesday.

              * Brunch at Minetta Tavern, The Breslin, or Shopsin's (note weird hours/crazy menu/cursing at Shopsin's).

              Shopsin's is probably the most "innovative" breakfast place/diner in town. Breakfast sliders, mac and cheese pancakes, slutty cakes, sandwiches with the "bread" made out of french toast or pancakes, made-up soups from around the world (i.e., "this is what I think Kenya soup would taste like" not "this is the soup they eat in Kenya").

              * Lobster rolls at Luke's, Red Hook Lobster Pound's truck, or Pearl Oyster Bar (I'm assuming you can't get them in the Bay Area). Luke's is more minimal, served cold in a warmed up bun. Pearl's is mayo-heavy, served room temperature. Red Hook Lobster Pound gives you choices of mayo or butter.

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              Fatty Crab
              643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

              Motorino
              349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

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              1. re: kathryn

                Wow - a look at Shopsin's menu got a huge smile out of me. And it's super close to where I'm staying!

                But can they really handle all that variety? And would the wait be ridiculous for four people on a Sunday afternoon?

                1. re: the mess

                  Get there as early as you can. There will likely be a bit of a wait.

                  1. re: the mess

                    and one of their (many) rules is that you can't have parties larger than four, so don't bring along an extra friend...

                2. Right now, there's a spot for two open for Monday dinner (9/5) at KO, at 6:50pm.

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                  1. re: Cheeryvisage

                    :) Already got exactly that time slot, but thanks for looking out!

                  2. Thanks to everybody who has responded. Really great feedback.

                    It's going to be a tight squeeze, but here's what it looks like as of now:

                    Saturday dinner: Prune (reservation with 4 people)

                    Sunday lunch: Will probably be hungover. I'm thinking this is the right time for Shopsins or Katz's, as I can walk to either. But it would be really nice to not have to wait a long time... is there any chance I would land a reservation for 4 at Minetta this close to the date?

                    Sunday dinner: I'll be coming back late from a music festival on Roosevelt Island, so my options are few. Might be able to make it to Fatty Crab by 12 - otherwise either a halal cart or... is Blue Ribbon worth my while?

                    Monday lunch: I want to leave plenty of room for dinner, so just a sandwich from Russ & Daughters.

                    Monday dinner: solo reservation at Momofuku Ko!

                    Tuesday lunch: Xi'an Famous Foods or Torrisi Italian Specialties... maybe an early lamb burger and a late turkey sandwich before I head to JFK?

                    Monday lunch:

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                    Russ & Daughters
                    179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                    Momofuku Ko
                    163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                    Fatty Crab
                    643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                    Xi'an Famous Foods
                    88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

                    Torrisi Italian Specialties
                    250 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

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                    1. re: the mess

                      We were at Minetta Tavern for brunch weekend before last and it wasn't full at all. I think I made a reservation for two on a Thursday for Sunday brunch. You should be fine calling now.

                      For late Sunday night dinner after midnight, Blue Ribbon is good. Try also Spotted Pig.

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                      Spotted Pig
                      314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

                      Minetta Tavern
                      113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

                      1. re: the mess

                        blue ribbon sushi is delicious- definitely go there. Regular blue ribbon you can skip.

                        1. re: e0023

                          I find the opposite. Blue Ribbon Brasserie is delicious, and Blue Ribbon Sushi is good but there are definitely better sushi places within walking distance like Ushiwakamaru.

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                          Blue Ribbon Brasserie
                          97 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                          Blue Ribbon Sushi
                          119 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                          Ushiwakamaru
                          136 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

                          1. re: kathryn

                            I second that. BRB better than Sushi

                            1. re: kathryn

                              I agree - totally the opposite. There's nothing like BR Brasserie at 2 a.m. BR Sushi is good, but nothing I'd recommend to a visitor.

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                              Blue Ribbon Brasserie
                              97 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                          2. re: the mess

                            Have a great time at Momofuku Ko! I frequently dine solo at Ko, and always have a fantastic time.

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                            Momofuku Ko
                            163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                            1. re: the mess

                              Just a note, Fatty Crab closes at Midnight on Sunday, so I don't think that will work, unless you can get there a little earlier.

                              Blue Ribbon Sushi is good.

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                              Blue Ribbon Sushi
                              119 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                              Fatty Crab
                              643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                            2. Here's another choice for Monday lunch if you are willing to venture beyond the confines of this Board. Labor Day has the City's best outdoor food fest (and noise fest and parade fest). It's the Caribbean Day Parade on Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn with literally hundreds of food vendors (most non commercial). If you are interested, look up "Caribbean Day Parade Brooklyn" on Google or in Wikipedia. Or ask on the Outer Boroughs board.

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                              1. re: bobjbkln

                                Thanks, bobjbkln, that did look great; unfortunately I didn't have time/stomach space to spare with my Ko reservation being the first seating of the night.

                              2. Thanks again to everybody who responded. I've had an amazing long weekend, and will give a more detailed report once I get home and find the time. I've shocked even myself with how many of these places I managed to try in the time I had.

                                Russ & Daughters
                                Prune
                                Katz's
                                Xi'an Famous Foods
                                Torrisi Italian Specialties
                                Momofuku Ko
                                Fatty Crab

                                My question, now: What's an appropriate last meal given all the above? I'm currently in the Flatiron and have a few good hours to kill before I head to the airport. Really wanted to try Minetta Tavern and Shopsin's but the timing won't work out with either. Perhaps there's something I should try on the way to JFK? I'm right around the corner form Eataly - something in there worth my while?

                                Thanks!

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                                Russ & Daughters
                                179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                                Katz's Delicatessen
                                205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                                Momofuku Ko
                                163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                Prune
                                54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

                                Fatty Crab
                                643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                                Xi'an Famous Foods
                                88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

                                Torrisi Italian Specialties
                                250 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

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                                1. re: the mess

                                  Maybe a late lunch at The Breslin? They have a great lamb burger.

                                  You could also walk down to Maialino or ABC Kitchen.

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                                  The Breslin
                                  20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

                                  Maialino
                                  2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

                                  ABC Kitchen
                                  35 E 18th St, New York, NY 10003

                                  1. re: kathryn

                                    If it's not too late, I ditto the Breslin lamb burger recommendation. And if the brioche doughnuts are still on the menu, absolutely do get those. Among the most delicious things I've eaten ever.

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                                    The Breslin
                                    20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

                                  2. re: the mess

                                    Perhaps the Shake Shack in Madison Square Park? Get a Shack Burger, and a concrete. :)

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                                    Shake Shack
                                    Madison Ave and E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010

                                    1. re: the mess

                                      The seafood restaurant in Eataly is good and you could proably get a seat right now

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                                      Eataly
                                      200 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

                                      Il Pesce
                                      200 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

                                      1. re: the mess

                                        Where did you end up?

                                        1. re: kathryn

                                          Wasn't sure if it was Chowhound-worthy...
                                          I tried walking over to the Breslin but it looked like a meal there would take me a little too long. It was pouring rain and I hadn't even brought a jacket on the trip, so everything was a little more difficult. My last task before heading to the airport was to sell some gold to fund all my gluttony... seeing all my brethren in the diamond district made me feel a bit guilty for my porktastic weekend. I ended up ducking into a glatt kosher spot on 47th street for some Uzbekistani lamb and rice pilaf. Not a gastronomic triumph but it definitely hit a comfort note for me.

                                      2. Usually when I conclude a great trip, I console myself by looking at all the wonderful things about the city I live in. This time, I'm just plain jealous. Had I been raised in New York, I probably would never have left.

                                        Here is a recap of all the memorable things I ingested, more or less in order:

                                        Russ & Daughters:
                                        Went for the classic bagel with lox and horseradish cream cheese - the bagel blew me away, bu the salmon, while great, was not among the best smoked fish I've had. Maybe the fish was just sort of buried in the other flavors. I tried some of a friend's smoked albacore, and thought that was a bit more special. Absolutely loved the shop altogether.

                                        Prune:
                                        Somewhat to my surprise, all my favorites here were seafood dishes. The sardines with triscuits, the pickled shrimp, and the shore dinner (guess I'm just not used to good lobster) were serious standouts. The suckling pig was reasonably good, but only the cracklings they served with it were really memorable. The bone marrow dish was kind of a letdown - I thought the marrow hadn't been rendered enough, and the parsley should have been dressed in something.

                                        Xi'an Famous Foods:
                                        Went to the Chinatown location. The humidity and 90-degree sun probably made a big difference in what I decided to order. Actually the cumin lamb burger was the only thing I got with any meat in it. Filling was of course delicious but I didn't love the texture of the bread. I think mine might have sat around for too long after it was made, as it was neither the pillowy yielding texture I look for in Eastern buns nor the chewy toothsomeness of Western breads. The tiger salad was the best version of that dish I've ever had - all that fragrant celery was exactly what I needed in such weather. I also really enjoyed a cold spicy tofu dish I had there. The cold "skin" noodles with tofu were nice, but I prefer a very similar dish they have at Mission Chinese Food in San Francisco.

                                        Schiller's
                                        Excellent bloody mary. Had two of them before I realized that each one cost more than my meal at Xi'an.

                                        Torrisi Italian Specialties:
                                        Oh, yes. This really was the best turkey sandwich I've ever had. So fucking juicy, and everything I needed after a night I didn't remember very well. Really enjoyed some of the sides as well, especially the beet salad (think it had some grapefruit too?). Didn't like that the tomato salad was cold. One friend was raving about his mixed cold cut hero, while the other was not so pleased with his potato and egg on a roll.

                                        Birreria
                                        Wasn't really on my agenda, but I came along with some friends who were researching hair of the dog theory on Labor Day afternoon. I was saving room for Ko, so I just had an arugula salad that was surprisingly delicious. Perfectly balanced vinaigrette, and the arugula had more flavor than what I've had at most of the market-driven California restaurants.

                                        Momofuku Ko
                                        Can't say much that hasn't already been said on these boards. The experience did not disappoint on any level. I especially loved the unpretentious staff. They really knew how to keep a solo diner engaged between courses... not once in two hours did I feel the need to reach for my cell phone and play a turn of Scrabble. They let me try a few drinks before settling on one... and even charged me shockingly little for the bottle I had (rather riskily) neglected to ask the price of. Like, less than it would have cost me at a liquor store.
                                        Of course I cannot begin to name all the things I ate there, but I cleaned my plate on every course. Major standouts were a Spanish mackerel with puffed black rice, smoked egg with fingerling potato chips, and chile-puree-filled tortellini in a corn broth. I am normally not a big dessert person, so I really appreciated that neither of my last two courses were excessively sweet or rich (both were sorbet-based). Totally worth the cost of dinner and waking up at 7am for the reservation.

                                        Fatty Crab
                                        Was planning to leave this out based on the recommendations above, but a friend really wanted to try it so we went to the West Village location. I think I would appreciate this place if I lived nearby and it were more reasonably priced (>$30pp for lunch, seriously?), but definitely wouldn't recommend it as a destination restaurant. The menu is a fun read and the dishes look like some good thought and research went into them, but that's about it. Nasi lemak and the Fatty Dog were both somehow muted in flavors - like perhaps the kitchen was going for subtlety where subtlety really wasn't due. I did really enjoy the charred squid (they did a great job getting basil to permeate the whole dish) and the "sauce and toast," but considering that the latter was exactly what the name suggests, felt $13 wasn't exactly a fair price.

                                        Thanks again for all your tips on this and other threads... looks like I already have an itinerary for my next visit!

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                                        Russ & Daughters
                                        179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                                        Schiller's Liquor Bar
                                        131 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

                                        Momofuku Ko
                                        163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                        Prune
                                        54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

                                        Fatty Crab
                                        643 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                                        Xi'an Famous Foods
                                        88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

                                        Torrisi Italian Specialties
                                        250 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

                                        Birreria
                                        200 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

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                                        1. re: the mess

                                          glad you had an awesome trip :) and you've reminded be to try Torrisi one night, since i've never been and am curious...

                                          small side question re: Prune, are the sardines served on actual Triscuits (tm) or on some take on Triscuits?

                                          1. re: Simon

                                            Not sure about the Triscuits - there was no trademark symbol on the menu, but they did seem just like the Nabisco kind. Fyi the sardines were most likely canned, just of a really high quality.

                                          2. re: the mess

                                            Great report! Glad you enjoyed Ko; it's one of my favorite restaurants.

                                          3. After the trip described above I couldn't resist - I'm coming again for about five days around New Year's!

                                            There were a good few suggestions on this thread that I didn't have a chance to try, so those remain on my list. I was wondering, though, if the NY hounds can offer me a few new recs considering which places and foods I enjoyed on my last trip.

                                            Here are the places I missed on round one:

                                            Shopsin's
                                            Minetta Tavern
                                            Txikito
                                            Takashi
                                            Momofuku Noodle or Ssam Bar
                                            Blue Ribbon Brasserie
                                            Halal Cart

                                            As for other things I'm looking for: anything that is hard to find (or rarely done well) in California. I realize winter produce is not New York's strong suit, so I'm happy to lean on meaty and starchy things. A great pizza recommendation would be welcome, although I wonder if the neo-Neapolitan places like Motorino would be too similar to what I'm used to in SF. The same concern applies to some of the Italian places that seem hot right now - Maialino's menu sounds delicious but there is some very eerie overlap with the Delfina restaurants out here. Is it worth trying these places to compare, or should I look for more uniquely New York phenomena?

                                            Thanks!

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                                            1. re: the mess

                                              > Shopsin's
                                              Check hours before you go on their web site, they may be closed for the holiday.

                                              > Minetta Tavern
                                              BTW, they are now on OpenTable.com if you want to book online, though if you're dining solo going early/late and eating at the bar may be easier.

                                              > Txikito
                                              They take reservations via email and phone IIRC.

                                              > Takashi
                                              I'd try to go on a weekday rather than a weekend since they just got featured in Anthony Bourdain's the Layover, and overall, I've noticed steadily growing crowds.

                                              > Momofuku Noodle or Ssam Bar

                                              What kind of food are you looking for? Ramen? Or more seasonal small plates? Are you thinking a weekday or weekend? I ask because Ssam Bar has an all duck lunch menu but only on weekdays.

                                              You may also be interested in The Dutch or Parm (same people behind Torrisi).

                                              Maybe Public, I'm not sure if anybody in California cooking in that same style.

                                              And trying Spotted Pig, The Breslin, or John Dory.

                                              Regarding Italian, perhaps Locanda Verde or Babbo seems more "different" from SF?

                                              I know you didn't like Fatty Crab but if you're wiling to give it another shot, its sister restaurant, Fatty Cue (West Village) just got 2 stars in the New York Times. I think it's excellent.
                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/808104

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                                              Babbo
                                              110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                                              Momofuku Ssam Bar
                                              207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                              Shopsin's General Store
                                              120 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

                                              Spotted Pig
                                              314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

                                              Minetta Tavern
                                              113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

                                              Momofuku Noodle Bar
                                              171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                              Public
                                              210 Elizabeth Street, New York, NY 10012

                                              Txikito
                                              240 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

                                              Locanda Verde
                                              377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

                                              The Breslin
                                              20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

                                              Takashi
                                              456 Hudson St, New York, NY 10011

                                              The Dutch
                                              131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                                              The John Dory Oyster Bar
                                              1196 Broadway, New York, NY 10001

                                              Parm
                                              248 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

                                              Fatty 'Cue
                                              50 Carmine St, New York, NY 10014

                                              1. re: kathryn

                                                Wow - just saw that Layover episode and it's going to make things difficult for me.

                                                Fatty Cue does seem more interesting than Crab - I'm gonna add that. Is the brunch worth checking out? I'm more amenable to going out of Manhattan this time, since I have a bit longer to spend. Any other suggestions in Brooklyn or elsewhere?

                                                I am inclined to try Babbo after the perfect arugula salad I had at Birreria. Actually I've always liked the Babbo cookbook... if I can get some assurance that it's not a tourist trap and is worth the cost of a meal there, I'm so down.

                                                1. re: the mess

                                                  > Wow - just saw that Layover episode and it's going to make things difficult for me.

                                                  > Fatty Cue does seem more interesting than Crab - I'm gonna add that.

                                                  Fatty Cue in the West Village doesn't serve brunch; I've not been to the Brooklyn one. The Brooklyn one is also undergoing some renovations at the moment, and only the front/bar room is open. I believe the two branches have different menus as well.

                                                  I'd recommend the WV because it has the lamb shoulder, brisket, and ham/jam/butter/bread on the menu, all dishes I really like.

                                                  If you want Brooklyn recommendations, you're better off posting to the Outer Boroughs board.

                                                  FWIW, I don't think Babbo is a tourist trap at all. Sure, there are tourists dining there, but there are also people who live in the area.

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                                                  Fatty 'Cue
                                                  50 Carmine St, New York, NY 10014