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abulr Aug 16, 2011 06:08 PM

Hi folks,

going to Montreal next weekend (bachelor party)

what do people think between Lemeac vs Taverne Sur Le Square ?

Thanks in advance!

a.r.

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Taverne Sur Le Square
1 Car Westmount, Westmount, QC H3Z2P9, CA

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    Maximilien Aug 16, 2011 06:25 PM

    What kind of bachelor party are we talking about?

    Lemeac looks to be a lot more "bourgeois" than Taverne...

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      OliverB Aug 16, 2011 07:31 PM

      Foodwise, Lemeac no question.

      Neither really scream 'bachelor party' though... Taverne is a bit louder and busier atmosphere on most nights. I think it's a bit underrated as most seem to dismiss it, but I've always enjoyed the food. There's nothing exceptional or particularly unique/interesting about it though. Lemeac is far better and I'm sure that opinion would be unanimously shared.

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        abulr Aug 17, 2011 09:47 AM

        thank you both. We are all older and this isn't exactly the wild bachelor party. Quite a handful of foodies in the group I think. We will do the wild stuff *after* the restaurant - we don't need to get wild in there - haha

        So I have Lemeac for late Friday night - their late night menu seems like a steal

        and I have Taverne for Saturday night - sicne it's busier and louder atmosphere that should work well (as it will surely be the roudier of the two nights)

        win-win for me I think

        thanks!

        I think I was trying to see if I should switch Lemeac to Saturday night and possibly

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          Fintastic Aug 17, 2011 05:00 PM

          Is there a reason you'd like to do Taverne OTS? I actually have nothing against the place, but if you'll be in from out of town there are so many places that might be a better fit - no matter how much older you might be. I definitely think it's louder than lemeac, but still on the quiet side vis-a-vis most Montreal restaurants. It also doesn't feel particularly "Montreal-y" to me, if that's a concern. I won't recommend the obvious bachelor party go-tos like pied de cochon, salle a manger, garde manger, ferreira, etc., but Chien Fumant or even Joe Beef might be more interesting... Those are just the first two that popped into my head..

          Again, Taverne is fine if you so choose.. and the outside terrace is nice if you can get a (dry) spot out there. Enjoy!

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          Joe Beef
          2491 Rue Notre-Dame W, Montreal, QC H3J1N6, CA

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            abulr Aug 22, 2011 08:40 PM

            oh dear - not sure how i missed this but thanks for the response first of all...

            looks like i picked two quiet places. Now Joe Beef happens to be one of the two top recommended places (Que de Cheval was the other but I have no interest for paying more than NYC prices for what I gather to be sub-NYC quality steaks)...

            But I've tried calling their number for weeks to get a reservation and no one ever answers. No matter what time of day. It doesn't even have a voicemail. So unless it closed down or something, I honestly have no patience or need to experience a restaurant that can't get their sh-t together. Phone/website/e-mail is kinda restaurant 102 i think (after location-chef-menu being 101).

            If you have a number other than (514) 935-6504 - I'm happy to try it,

            thanks again!

            p.s. so am i to understand that both restaurants are too quiet for a group of 7-8 guys on a bachelor party? (even if most are in their late 30s?)

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            Joe Beef
            2491 Rue Notre-Dame W, Montreal, QC H3J1N6, CA

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              Fintastic Aug 22, 2011 10:17 PM

              Neither would necessarily be too quiet for your group. I just find both a bit formal (but again, this is Montreal formal so its all relative).

              Joe Beef certainly has its shit together. I dont know what to say of the phone number situation, but they do have online bookings through their website. That seems easy enough..
              http://www.opentable.com/joe-beef-res...

              However, they seem almost entirely booked for the next few weeks, with no space at all on weekends even for small groups.
              You'll probably be happy at your original choices but there are other options if you'd prefer..

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              Joe Beef
              2491 Rue Notre-Dame W, Montreal, QC H3J1N6, CA

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                abulr Aug 23, 2011 02:09 PM

                turns out the largest party they can accomodate is 6ppl - sounds a bit odd but I'm told it's a small place (looks like the concierge at our hotel had more luck than I did)...

                I also have Cinquieme Peche reservation... but fwiw, i do see Taverne consistently rated higher and with better reviews - what are your thoughts between the two?

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                  cherylmtl Aug 23, 2011 03:23 PM

                  Where on earth are you finding reviews of Taverne that are higher than Cinquieme Peche? Certainly not on this board. Not that it's bad, but it's kind of a Westmount see and be seen hangout. There is no contest between the two - it's Cinquieme Peche by a longshot...
                  As for Joe Beef, they were closed for vacation earlier in the month, which might explain the lack of phone response...

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                  Joe Beef
                  2491 Rue Notre-Dame W, Montreal, QC H3J1N6, CA

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                    Ched1000 Aug 23, 2011 03:39 PM

                    Second

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                    Fintastic Aug 23, 2011 10:16 PM

                    Ya, they were on vacation, doing renos, and dealing with a fire in their sister restaurant, which might explain your calling problems. The main restaurant only seats 30-40 people at a time, plus the small terrace and new (but tiny) oyster bar next door, so a table for 6 is more than I would have even expected at the last minute.

                    Anyhow, 5ieme Peche is amazing, and while pretty intimate, is creative and very Montreal. Without a doubt it is far, far superior to Taverne OTS no matter who you ask. It's true - I can't imagine where it would be rated lower.. especially consistently so!

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          OliverB Aug 24, 2011 03:22 AM

          I would never steer an out of towner towards Taverne. I happen to like it for what it is, but there's nothing special or unique about it at all. It's definitely not a destination spot and while I'm sure you'd have a pretty good meal, I'm not sure why you'd chose this place to eat out with so many more interesting and uniquely local restaurants. If the choice is between 5ieme and Taverne, drop your res and go with 5ieme all the way.

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            abulr Aug 24, 2011 07:37 AM

            very good to know - i think i may have been swayed by very high marks on urbanspoon and/or tripadvisor

            seems that there's nothing special about taverne at all - judging from the responses above

            does the same opinion hold for lemeac? if it's also "boring" or un-memorable - should we do La Coupole instead (i have that option as well)

            thanks - you guys have been very helpful!

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            La Coupole
            1325, Rene Levesque West, Montreal, QC H3G 0A4, CA

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              Maximilien Aug 24, 2011 07:55 AM

              Nope, go to Lemeac.

              M.

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                Fintastic Aug 24, 2011 08:43 PM

                Definitely Lemeac.

                That's the thing about trip advisor. It seems like the top restos on there are always relatively new: I think it typically starts with friends of the owners who want the place to do well who rate it highly. Then tourists start to flock and continue to rate highly. It was that way with Apollo for quite a while. Now Grain de Sel is the top resto: a place I think I've heard mentioned on this board and generally in life maybe 3 times, and never with too many good things said.

                I also check trip advisor when I go to a new city, but I'm starting to think their algorithm is a little flawed...

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                  abulr Aug 25, 2011 07:58 AM

                  well said - and exactly why i asked in chowhound. i know i'll probably get blasted for this - but it's hard to filter on those other sites...
                  I mean which is better - the 5-stars when some guy from b-mblef-ck western ontario goes to the big city and has "the best meal ever" - vs some guy who's eaten all over the world and has a different baseline and simply says "really great meal"

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                    Fintastic Aug 25, 2011 10:14 AM

                    That is the concern. You came to the right place, anyhow. I hope you enjoy 5ieme Peche and Lemeac. They're both great. Lemeac is also mere blocks down from the best beer in the city, so stop in at Dieu de Ciel before/after (corner of Clarke & Laurier).

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