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Worldwide Diner Aug 16, 2011 05:12 AM

Suzy got to pick her teammate and she picks Christian, but not before declaring she's better than him and they're better than the other team. Needless to say they lose and she takes no responsibility for conceptualizing their dish, which the judges criticized as too simple. Christian then beats her in a lemon merengue pie pressure test. Christian, I think, is on the verge of spilling his sob story. I think he might win and suddenly become very humble.

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    smartie Aug 16, 2011 05:23 AM

    I think he's always been the better chef, probably from Day 1 amongst all contestants. His meringue looked better than hers and he was correct that Suzy's concept of T-giving dinner was a little odd and simple.

    I actually want him to win.

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      Worldwide Diner Aug 16, 2011 09:39 AM

      I think Christian talks alot of trash, which in the sports arena would have been typical and accepted. People who aren't accustomed to trashtalking will see him as arrogant. What's telling to me is that he doesn't insults the others on a personal level. I think he has consistently outperformed the others and deserves to win on the merits.

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        JRSD Aug 20, 2011 07:20 PM

        I was thinking that it seems like he is amused by his own trash talking and is kind of surprised that they hate him rather than just giving it back.

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          John E. Aug 20, 2011 08:40 PM

          It appeared to me Christian lost on his merits. It did not occur to me that he got screwed when he was not chosen for the finale.

      2. applehome Aug 16, 2011 10:26 PM

        What does this have to do with the finale ?

        BTW, Christian wasn't in it...

        1. dave_c Aug 16, 2011 10:49 PM

          I think the person that won second place was ripped off.

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            mcf Aug 17, 2011 12:38 PM

            I really don't. I thought it could have gone either way, but I think Jennifer was ballsy, fearless and showed great technique. I would have preferred to eat Adrien's meal and Jennifer's dessert, but I thought both got better and better and were on fire for the finale. Adrien turned out two good courses, Jennifer turned out three, and I think that count is what it came down to. Her dessert was delicious but slight; no one wanted to eat his.

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            acgold7 Aug 16, 2011 11:39 PM

            Yeah, Adrian got screwed. Christian got screwed. Jennifer wasn't even the third best cook there. Even Ben deserved it more than she did.

            At least Suzy didn't win.

            But the show has evolved nicely from being a soapy mess to really being all about the food.

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              C70 Aug 17, 2011 09:09 AM

              agree 100%

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                josey124 Aug 17, 2011 10:46 AM

                Oh man, I agree!!! Jennifer should have dropped out way earlier. I was wondering if the judges had a crush on here. Somehow she seemed to be quite hyped. At least on TV it was not convincing.
                My favourite (from the audition on) was Christian. I never understood why they slammed his vegetarian dish without even tasting it.
                Adrian was too up and down for me.

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                  acgold7 Aug 17, 2011 12:06 PM

                  It's been apparent from the first season of Hell's Kitchen that Ramsay loves the cute Blondes.

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                  John E. Aug 17, 2011 07:52 PM

                  There is no point accumulation during the competition, so how could Ben deserve to be Master Chef since he overcooked his venison last week? This is just like Top Chef on Bravo in only one way, cook one bad dish, make a single mistake and you could be eliminated.

                  I thought it was a little funny that Ramsay introduced the Master Chef finale as "The most anticipated TV culinary event of the year". Uhm no Gordy, that would be the Top Chef finale.

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                    acgold7 Aug 18, 2011 12:25 AM

                    Well, yes and no. You're not really eliminated for making a single mistake unless the producers want you to go. They're following your progress all along and making the judgement calls all the way as well as deciding how much potential you have... the on-air "judges" often have little to do with it. Which, by the way, *is* exactly like Top Chef... freeze the credits some time and read the disclaimer at the end that flashes by in like a nanosecond.

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                      LindaWhit Aug 18, 2011 06:14 AM

                      Oh Christ - THIS again? The producers speak with the judges, yes, but on Top Chef, the judges have the final say. There is no way in hell that Tom Colicchio would allow his reputation to be tarnished (nor would any guest judge). Countless articles and interviews have said the same thing - Tom, Gail, Padma, and guest judges have said THEY make the decision as to who goes.

                      The *only* time that producers intervened was the Marcel head shaving attempt, when Tom wanted to send everyone home who was involved. The producers said just the one who laid hands on and held down Marcel was to go, per the rules.

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                        John E. Aug 18, 2011 06:26 AM

                        B.S. Ben overcooked the venison making his the worst dish, he gets eliminated. I know that if there are two equally bad dishes, past performance is likely part of the decision, but both TC and MC are judged in similar manners, each round is judged on its own merits. Yesterday's food does not factor in to today's judging. That is how obviously weaker cooks can progress further than more talented cooks who make mistakes.

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                          acgold7 Aug 18, 2011 10:10 AM

                          Well, it's possible you guys are right, but as none of us were there we'll never know. But as a guy who worked in the Network TV business for 25 years, I can tell you it's a good idea to take all these public statements with a grain of salt. You don't see or hear anything the producers don't want you to, and that includes anything the "talent" tells the press. "Reality" TV is far from real and everything you see is manufactured for your enjoyment. It's ShowBiz, kids, with the emphasis on "show."

                          I'm not saying your take on it isn't correct, only to cast a skeptical eye and remember that everything you see is manufactured to amp the drama.

                          Having sat through many a taping of Iron Chef America I can tell you that what you see on TV bears a scant resemblance to what happened in the studio.

                  2. jenscats5 Aug 17, 2011 05:52 AM

                    Well, since the results are posted all over the headlines of our local newspaper I guess I now know who won & I didn't get to see the finale yet.... sigh!!

                    But have to agree on the lemon meringue pie results....Suzy's looked pretty bad when they sliced it & it was drippy....yuck!

                    1. LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 06:05 AM

                      I went up to Gloucester last night to watch the show at the bar/restaurant where Christian now works. This is his hometown, so the crowd was visibly and audibly pissed off when Christian came in third. He actually disappeared for awhile during his cooking stint, and only came out *just* before they announced his 3rd place finish.

                      As for Christian talking trash - my friend is from Gloucester and she said the cockiness he shows is "just how the Gloucester guys are." And sure enough, he showed it last night as well in the restaurant. It's not trash talking, per se (at least not in my opinion). It's brash over-confidence. Even without knowing what the other cook's food tasted OR looked like he still said his food was better. (Christian said they never got to taste another's dish unless asked, and they rarely got to see a dish other than the walk-up to the judges table, so it was a fleeting glimpse). There's confidence, and then there's cockiness. If Gordon Ramsay, Graham Elliott and Joe Bastiniach are telling you your food just didn't cut it, I'd have to go with their opinions. Just MY opinion. :-)

                      I was stunned, however, at Christian *not* being in the finale. I really thought, based on the 3 dishes they made, that either Adrian or Jennifer might not make it in. I definitely think out of Jennifer and Adrian being in the finale, Adrian should have won. Those short ribs looked heavenly! But I disagree that Jennifer didn't deserve to be there. She'd won what - three mystery boxes? She did pretty well throughout the competition, whereas Ben always seemed to just miss.

                      I'll want to watch it again to listen to various critiques - a bit hard to hear in the bar. :-)

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                      1. re: LindaWhit
                        NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 08:08 AM

                        That's pretty cool, Linda!

                        So, is Christian the chef there?

                        if so, I guess he's not a "stay at home dad" anymore...Do you know how long he's been there?

                        And, How is the food?

                        Well, while I enjoyed the finale immensley, I was really hoping for a Christian/Adrian finale. In that case, I would have been happy no matter who won.

                        I haven't minded Jennifer, all season, (except for her rather annoying laugh) but last night, she really got on my nerves.

                        She was always complaining about Christians cockiness and arrogance, but last night, she was pretty darn cocky herself.

                        I know you really have to be, being in that kind of situation, but I didn't see any of Adrians genuine humility thrown in there.

                        I **hate** when contestants say things like "I deserve to win because I worked so hard to get here!"

                        As if their opponent hasn't worked hard as well!

                        Drives me nuts.

                        She also turned me off when she refused to give Christian the 2 tablespoons of flour.

                        Grow up! Be the bigger person.

                        To me it spoke volumes about her character.
                        She kept saying "karma's a bitch", so I kept waiting for that bit of bad karma to bite HER in the ass!

                        I got a bit choked up, I must admit, when Adrian's family arrived! His grandma was super adorable!

                        Ben Starr was a blubbering mess!!

                        I loved it!

                        Both contestants seemed to have a great menu, but of the two, I would want to dig into Adrians dishes; They looked beautiful, and those short ribs did look mighty tasty!!

                        I think Jennifer was really good, but in the end, I always root for the person I *like*, so I am terribly sorry Adrian didnt win.

                        I wish him loads of success!!!

                        1. re: NellyNel
                          LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 08:32 AM

                          I think Christian *used* to work there (line cook?) and he recently came back. I'm not sure what his role is now. He was wearing his MC whites last night, however. AND he had a haircut. A LOT of haircut. And trimmed up the beard so it was much more presentable. :-) I *think* I heard him tell someone else that they wouldn't let him cut his hair on the show. Not sure why. I did notice that Adrian's hair was shorter between one episode and the semi-final.

                          I didn't hear/see the 2 Tbsp. of flour issue, so I'll be interested to re-watch the finale and see what that was about.

                          I was surprised that Jennifer won. I figured since Whitney won last year, they'd have a guy win. I would have liked to have seen a Christian/Adrian finale as well.

                          And to TDQ - I think the cookbook depends on whether the winner wants to do so? I thought I remembered Whitney saying towards the end of MC1 that she wanted to write an updated Southern food cookbook, so maybe they made that part of the win - the publishing of said cookbook. Dunno - guess we'll see if Jennifer comes out with anything.

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                            The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2011 09:02 AM

                            Ah, okay. I noticed right away that Adrian got a haircut and Jennifer's make up looked much, much better. I knew right away that Christian wasn't going all the way to the end.

                            And, I agree, Jennifer should have given him the 2 TBSP of flour. Did she really think that would change the overall outcome for either one of their dishes? If he asked for 2 cups of flour, okay, I'd get that, but withholding 2 tbsp was just mean. However, he could have been a little more polite in ASKING for the flour. He just sort of bellowed out that he needed flour. And then kind of bellowed can I have some flour or something like that.

                            I'm glad he has a job now.

                            ~TDQ

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                              NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 09:32 AM

                              Adrian looks a whole lot better with the short hair cut, IMO!

                            2. re: LindaWhit
                              The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2011 09:04 AM

                              Oh, and why was everyone such a pottymouth this season. I kind of understand potty mouth under pressure, but why doesn't there have to be pottymouth in confessionals?

                              ~TDQ

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                                NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 09:40 AM

                                Thanks, Linda.
                                I bet it was pretty cool, being there.

                                Interesting about the hair-cut!
                                I guess they wanted him to have a certain "persona".

                                I thought the same thing about a female winner.. especially, as they both seem to be the happy perky cute type.

                                Christian needed a bit of flour, and Jennifer refused him...I thought it was a bit shitty...but neither made a huge deal about it...

                                1. re: NellyNel
                                  John E. Aug 17, 2011 08:07 PM

                                  I don't blame her at all for not giving him the flour. He bad-mouthed her throught the competition in the kitchen or whever they were cooking while most of her remarks about him seemed to come in the confessional, meaning the producers asked her a question about him to get a response. It's a competition, he screwed up, it's not up to her to bail him out. If it were Top Chef, one professional to another, then not giving a small amount of an ingredient could be in bad form, although I remember situations on TC just like the flour deal on MC where an ingredient was not shared.

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                                    Worldwide Diner Aug 17, 2011 08:19 PM

                                    If Jenny was a good Christian and a good sport, wouldn't she turn the other cheek and give him the flour? Instead, she laces her confessional with profanities and acts like a sore loser for most of the show. And I'm not entirely sure she deserves to win. Any show with Gordo on Fox doesn't really mean much in reality.

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                                      John E. Aug 17, 2011 08:41 PM

                                      The producers encourage the sorts of reactions you describe. They keep them sitting there until they are satisfied they have enough soundbites to work with. Eventually, the contestants learn to give them what they want so they can get out of there and back to their hotel room or wherever it is they keep them for the duration. I would hate to be one of the early ones booted have to sit around for several weeks waiti g for them to finish the show.

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                                        Worldwide Diner Aug 17, 2011 09:26 PM

                                        You're probably right. In any case, I find the show amusing but not worth dwelling upon.

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                                      DavidPalmer Aug 18, 2011 04:49 AM

                                      I agree 100%. I clapped when she basically told to him to put the flour where the sun don't shine. He demeaned and insulted her consistently throughout the show. Like she said, karma's a bitch.

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                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 05:59 AM

                                        Eh, why stoop to his level and behave like a spoiled child. Behave like the grown-up that you are and give him the two stupid TBSP of flour. Plus, wouldn't it be even more satisfying to beat him when he's made his dish exactly the way he wanted it to be, flour and all?

                                        ~TDQ

                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                          John E. Aug 18, 2011 06:34 AM

                                          Yes, you have a point. I tend to agree with your thinking but my point is that it wasn't WRONG for her to refuse his request, it was her decision to make. We have the luxury of providing our opinion in a detached manner, she had to make the decision in a tension-filled moment, essentially helping her nemesis.

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                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 06:38 AM

                                            Of course, that's the "beauty" of reality television. They put these people in such strange circumstances in order to pressure them to the point where they do things they would probably never think of doing under ordinary circumstances. Purely for our entertainment.

                                            ~TDQ

                                        2. re: DavidPalmer
                                          NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 06:19 AM

                                          But she did the same to him!
                                          Why is it ok for her to trash talk him, but not the other way around?

                                          What supreme hypocrisy!

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                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 06:25 AM

                                            Neither is okay. But, when someone's being a jerk, take the high road. Also, no need to employ all the foul language. I'm sure she'll be very proud to have that young boy that greeted her on stage listen to watch the string of profanities roll out of her month on television. She might be a former beauty queen, but I thought that was really ugly. Contrast this behavior with the quiet grace and confidence of Whitney, last season's winner. Now that gal had poise, which is what won me over in the end. (I was rooting for David until the very end).

                                            ~TDQ

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                                              NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 12:55 PM

                                              I agree.

                                              I didn't watch last season...

                                2. re: LindaWhit
                                  John E. Aug 17, 2011 07:58 PM

                                  Actually, that much arrogance that Christian showed is often an indication of insecurity, not overconfidence. I lost what little respect I had for him when he could not admit that Jennifer's risotto was good without any qualifications or so called trash talk. The inability to be gracious is not a good personality trait.

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                                    LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 08:01 PM

                                    Agreed. And I saw some of that lack of graciousness last night as well. Oh well. Takes all kinds. I do wish him well at the restaurant.

                                3. The Dairy Queen Aug 17, 2011 06:53 AM

                                  Does the winner not get a cookbook this season? I noticed it was never mentioned as part of the prize last night...

                                  ~TDQ

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                                    C70 Aug 17, 2011 09:13 AM

                                    should have been adrien. jennifer's food never did anything for me, all season.

                                    oh well, at least he's free to do what he wants now, and she probably has contractual obligations/publicity to deal with.

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                                      LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 09:24 AM

                                      And this is EXACTLY what Christian said last night to those of us in the room. While he would have liked to have won, he would have been tied to doing *exactly* what Fox and MC wanted him to do. His life wouldn't have been his own for at least 6 months. With a brand new baby and a toddler, that doesn't make for a happy family life.

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                                        applehome Aug 17, 2011 11:37 AM

                                        Yeah, poor winner. $250,000 for 6 months of doing Fox's bidding. Sounds like something a sore loser would say. Especially, an arrogant one. I swear, quotes like this make me think we should bring back the draft - especially for arrogant assholes. Doing 6 months of Uncle Sam's bidding for what? Maybe $15,000 including HOLA, COLA and combat pay... And eating MRE's as part of the bargain! (I DO remember some creative cooking going on with C-Rats back in the day.)

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                                          LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 11:48 AM

                                          Seriously? I'm not saying that Christian's not arrogant, but likening cooking on a reality show (not a job) to being in these service seems opposite ends of the spectrum and rather extreme.

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                                            SmartCookie Aug 17, 2011 11:55 AM

                                            I was quite shocked at the outcome, but I have to say the WORST part of the show (amongst many), and what irked me the most was the editing. Why were they showing the appetizers being made first? How long did the final dishes sit before they were tasted...it seemed like 20 minutes. Wouldn't they have been cold by then?

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                                              acgold7 Aug 17, 2011 12:06 PM

                                              It's possible they allow them to re-make them like they do on Iron Chef.

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                                                LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 12:24 PM

                                                Not sure about that. I'm pretty sure they have to make several plates of the same dish, as one becomes available for the "beauty shot" for the cameras.

                                                SmartCookie, I didn't think to ask Christian about that - how long dishes sit and wait to be judged by those tasting them. I suppose if everything is being made within a set time frame, I guess some things *do* get cold. The only time I would see that *not* happening is with something like the souffle round.

                                                Damn. Wish I had thought to ask that. :-)

                                                1. re: LindaWhit
                                                  mcf Aug 17, 2011 12:41 PM

                                                  I wish you had, too! That was my very first thought when they showed Jennifer starting out by searing the scallops, how long were they going to sit there before service?

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                                                John E. Aug 17, 2011 08:45 PM

                                                The only thing I can figure out about the editing is that the producers think it would confuse the average viewer if they showed them getting the desserts or entrees started before the apps. Of course Jennifer seared her scallops after getting the birds in the oven and Adrien put the cake together just after starting his short rib braise, but the average viewer would be confused, or so that's what the producers think.

                                              3. re: LindaWhit
                                                applehome Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM

                                                It wasn't about cooking on a reality show vs. military service - it was about the attitude that making $250,000 for 6 months work (being at the beck and call of Fox) isn't worth it. Most folks, including most servicemen, would have no problem working hard for that kind of money. But this guy's just too proud of his obviously wonderful skills to consider such a demeaning thing. It just seems to fit what I saw of him on the show, and indeed what you confirmed at the bar. I have a good friend that fished out of Gloucester after high school. He's one of the most humble, hard-working guys I know - it's like he went through combat - he had crew that were killed on the job.

                                                We're all giving our 2 cents on these contestants. My vote is that Christian deserved to lose, and mainly for his attitude and the way he presented himself. It's one thing to say that we ought to tolerate bad behavior from the Picasso's and Marco Pierre White's of the world - but from these junior wannabees? Was his food better than Gordon's? Has he done more for the culinary world than Joe Bastianich? Before your post about meeting him, I was willing to put some of the blame on TV and their desire for drama at any cost - but this guy is obviously a genuine schmuck - deserving of nothing but contempt.

                                                1. re: applehome
                                                  NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 01:06 PM

                                                  As has been discussed ad nauseum- about these reality cooking shows - we only see what the editors want us to see.

                                                  I mean - as Linda mentioned - the producers didnt even want him to get a haircut.

                                                  (To give him a more *satan-esque* persona - perhaps??)

                                                  He seemed like a genuine nice guy in the beginning...being a stay at home dad and all...

                                                  And Ben Starr - who is obviously a genuine warm and lovely guy say's on his blog that Chritian is a good guy... I happen to trust Ben..

                                                  Lots of people are cocky and obnoxious (my BF!!!!) , but yet, have a wonderful warm heart...

                                                  Jennifer was a bitch when she didnt share flour with him - does that make her a nasty bitch in every aspect of her life? Of course not.

                                                  I really think your "contempt" is WAY misguided.

                                                  1. re: NellyNel
                                                    John E. Aug 17, 2011 08:19 PM

                                                    Wouldn't "let" him get a haircut? Do you mean you think he had a decent haircut on the video he submitted when he entered the competition, and they 'made' him grow it out into the mess we saw on TV?

                                                    1. re: John E.
                                                      NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 06:26 AM

                                                      Why are you questioning me?

                                                      Thats what Linda said she overheard him say to someone...

                                                      My "satan-esque " comment was purely speculation..hence my question marks.

                                                      (oh and it was meant to be sort of a joke, really)

                                                  2. re: applehome
                                                    LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 01:07 PM

                                                    Hey - I never *said* I thought Christian should win. I liked him at first, but after a few shows, I thought his attitude and condescension towards everyone else on the show was intolerable.

                                                    When Ramsay, Elliott and Bastiniach tell you your food isn't as good as what others put out, I'm going to believe them over some guy whose ego was way too large and he couldn't put up a good enough dish to prove himself right. Put up or shut up. Michelin-starred chefs' opinions carry a helluva lot more weight than his.

                                                    He was the same way last night when I asked if he was playing it up for TV re: his dislike for Jennifer. I won't repeat what he said, but let's just say he was even more dooshery than he was on TV.

                                                    So on that, we're on the same page.

                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                      NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 01:10 PM

                                                      oh really, Linda!!??

                                                      Yikes!

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                                                        LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 01:20 PM

                                                        Yeah. Which pretty much sealed it for me as to the fact I'm *glad* he didn't win.

                                                        I'm sorry - in this case if you can't just tell a little white lie and just say "we had different styles and they didn't mesh" or something like that, you're a putz.

                                                        As I said - my girlfriend said that this is the way Gloucester guys are. I guess if you grow up that way, you can deal with it. I wouldn't be able to do so.

                                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                                          NellyNel Aug 17, 2011 01:30 PM

                                                          Wow.

                                                          Yeah, I agree...

                                                          Some part of me kind of respects his brutal honesty...I mean, he is who he is....

                                                          But I am not usually friends with that type either

                                                          1. re: NellyNel
                                                            mcf Aug 17, 2011 01:45 PM

                                                            It sounds as if his history involves having been raised by wolves. I have to give a lot of props to a former drug user as young as Christian cleaning up, pursuing custody of his child and parenting while developing such good skills. I hope his ambition matches his bravado and he goes far.

                                                            I really admire his dedication to doing the right thing, if not his mouthy behavior. I hope some day his ego doesn't need that much propping up. Right now, he's a smartass kid.

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                                                            Dave5440 Aug 17, 2011 05:16 PM

                                                            RE:LindaWhit
                                                            As I said - my girlfriend said that this is the way Gloucester guys are. I guess if you grow up that way, you can deal with it. I wouldn't be able to do so.

                                                            I've been in Gloucester a few times for 4 or 5 days , just got back on monday, I didn't meet any guys that acted like christian, and on the show I couldn't stand him

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                                                              LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 05:25 PM

                                                              I'm not saying EVERY guy from Gloucester is that way. But she grew up there. She dealt with guys like this all the time. And there were probably 3 others like Christian in the bar last night.

                                                              So they're there.

                                                              1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                breadchick Aug 17, 2011 05:36 PM

                                                                My two cents here, Linda, really has nothing to do with cooking - BUT. (I've been to Gloucester before and it's lovely, btw.) Watching The Perfect Storm several times, I recall the rescue helicopter pilot speaking about the crazies who - despite obvious danger - choose to push the envelope. The copter pilot said "Gloucester, they're ALWAYS from Gloucester!"

                                                                So, it must be in the town water... ;-)

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                                                                  LindaWhit Aug 17, 2011 07:26 PM

                                                                  I think my friend would agree with that, breadchick! LOL

                                                      2. re: applehome
                                                        mcf Aug 17, 2011 01:27 PM

                                                        I don't think he deserved to lose for his attitude, and he was right there cheering the other two on in the end. I think he deserved to lose because his food wasn't inspired and it looked like crap the way he presented it in the semi final.

                                                        1. re: mcf
                                                          chowser Aug 18, 2011 08:37 AM

                                                          I think he deserved to lose because he didn't want to learn. He blew off any criticism of his food, refused to listen to others, refused to admit the risotto was good. With that attitude, he'll remain what he is and never improve. Had he been willing to admit any of his problems (like refusing to admit his plating wasn't up to par, that stirring caramel could ruin it, etc.) and adjust, as Adrien did, he might have done better.

                                                          1. re: chowser
                                                            LindaWhit Aug 18, 2011 08:44 AM

                                                            Ahhh, yes - the stirring of the caramel. Now THERE is something I wish I could have brought up with him.

                                                            Although I do value my life. So I didn't. ;-)

                                                            1. re: chowser
                                                              mcf Aug 18, 2011 08:46 AM

                                                              Sometimes, when people are insecure enough to have all that bravado, you get the wrong idea, too. There may be a difference between how he responds outwardly and how much he takes away inwardly. Some immature folks listen, but don't want you to know they're listening. Christian may be one of those.

                                                              Clearly, he's learned quite a bit along the way somehow, by paying attention to what others before him have done. I think he did really, really well, and two superb chefs went to the final ahead of him.

                                                              1. re: mcf
                                                                The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 09:04 AM

                                                                I will say I was surprised (and pleased) to see how genuinely enthusiastically Christian was cheering on the two finalists. I agree Christian has some issues with insecurity or false bravado or whatever, but based on what a gracious loser Christian turned out to be, and based on the favorable comments Ben posted about him in his blog, I have the feeling that they only aired the worst of Christian, rather than the best of Christian. He was actually my favorite in the beginning, but I liked him less and less as the season went on. Eventually Ben became my favorite.

                                                                But, I'm glad to see that maybe the good qualities I saw in CHristian early on were perhaps for real. It can't be easy being a single dad, an unemployed one at that, so I am sincerely happy to hear he's employed again. Maybe he learned a few things along the way too, whether it's about cooking or just life, which is a good thing as well.

                                                                P.S. I really like Adrian, too. I hope good things come his way as a result of MC, too.

                                                                ~TDQ

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                                                                  mcf Aug 18, 2011 12:50 PM

                                                                  I liked him a lot more at the beginning, too, and I liked him again when I saw him cheering the last two on. Is he a single dad, or a stay at home dad with a partner?
                                                                  I don't recall him being called single, but could be wrong.

                                                                  1. re: mcf
                                                                    NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 12:57 PM

                                                                    I think he separated from his first sons mom, and had custody of his son, then met a new woman and now has a 2nd child on the way.

                                                                    (I ***think***)

                                                                    1. re: NellyNel
                                                                      mcf Aug 18, 2011 01:03 PM

                                                                      I thought I read yesterday that he had a child and a toddler at home? This article says he's the father of three! http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x175565943/Local-MasterChef-falls-short-relishes-experience

                                                                      If he's a stay at home dad, or has been, there must be a working partner who carried the babies? New baby was born just last month... http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/...

                                                                      1. re: mcf
                                                                        The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 01:22 PM

                                                                        http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x175565943/Local-MasterChef-falls-short-relishes-experience Three kids, it seems. Also, maybe he doesn't work at the Dog Bar anymore: http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x175565943/Local-MasterChef-falls-short-relishes-experience

                                                                        It looks like Jennifer is trying to assemble a cookbook. Hard to say if that's being backed by Masterchef or not.

                                                                        Christian's new venture:
                                                                        http://chefchristiancollins.com/

                                                                        ~TDQ

                                                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                          mcf Aug 18, 2011 01:29 PM

                                                                          From the catering page, it looks like he picked up some presentation tips from Adrien. :-) Bad syntax/grammar, though... "Making YOU the perfect meal..."

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                                                                            LindaWhit Aug 18, 2011 01:42 PM

                                                                            I just related what the bartendress told me on Tuesday night - that he was "back with us". I suspect the catering is a side to his Dogbar cheffing?

                                                                        2. re: NellyNel
                                                                          LindaWhit Aug 18, 2011 01:40 PM

                                                                          Nelly, the infant was born about 4-6 weeks ago, I believe. He had the toddler and the infant at the finale showing on Tuesday night.

                                                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                            NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 01:53 PM

                                                                            Thanks, mcf did say the "dad of three" comment must have been an error...

                                                                        3. re: mcf
                                                                          The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 01:01 PM

                                                                          I thought they called him a stay at home dad in the beginning, but I swear in something I saw during the finale they called him a single dad. There's a giant difference, isn't there? He could technically be both, I suppose.

                                                                          ~TDQ

                                                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen
                                                                            NellyNel Aug 18, 2011 01:10 PM

                                                                            i googled him, and in the few bits I came across, I only found this as far as his personal life :

                                                                            "I guess I'm holding the reins for reality TV in Gloucester," quipped the 32-year-old father of three."

                                                                            Wow - 3 kids!
                                                                            With 3 women??? -
                                                                            Must be, because I'm sure the clips showed him rasing one boy....he recently became a father again...(unless his partner gave birth to twins!)

                                                                            1. re: NellyNel
                                                                              mcf Aug 18, 2011 01:30 PM

                                                                              It looks as if that's an error, unless he has a daughter somewhere. His second son was born last month.

                                                                    2. re: chowser
                                                                      John E. Aug 18, 2011 08:47 AM

                                                                      You have it exactly correct. He even knows more about food than do Ramsay, Bastianich, and Elliot. On his last episode he said they criticized his plating, but he didn't care what they thought. THEY WERE THE JUDGES, YOU IDIOT!

                                                        2. pitagirl Aug 18, 2011 09:36 AM

                                                          Did anyone else catch the comment from Suzy towards Jennifer that that third spot should have been hers? How ungracious!!!

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                                                            The Dairy Queen Aug 18, 2011 09:37 AM

                                                            "Jennifer took my spot"--I wonder how THAT worked in Suzy's mind?

                                                            ~TDQ

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                                                              chowser Aug 18, 2011 09:39 AM

                                                              Yes, that was the remark that stood out in my mind the most. Talk about arrogant.

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                                                                DavidPalmer Aug 18, 2011 09:44 AM

                                                                Agreed. Somebody should re-engineer her neurons.

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