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Staying at the Beacon 5 nights, coming in Monday 8/15

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Hi Hounds, First timer to NY. Not as organized as I should be as I have just started to do my research. We love good food but on a budget-2 adults and 1 12year old. Getting into JFK at 5:15 am hoping to find some casual options close to our hotel. Whatever is best in the area-Pizza, Pasta, Seafood, In Season...Ethnic that isn't Mexican or Thai as we have plenty in LA (Pasadena). We plan on going either to Katz's or Carnegie for deli at some point and spending time in China Town.
I can never get enough dim sum. I'm turning in now as I have a long day ahead of me so I'll be checking in during our flight. Thanks in advance. Sorry if this is too brief.

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  1. Yikes! I hope you found something good near your hotel at 6am!

    This board is not heavily trafficked between midnight and 8-9am, sadly.

    For Chinatown dim sum, check out Dim Sum Go Go and Red Egg. However, in comparison to LA, our dim sum just won't be as good. I'd recommend eating some foods you can't find easily in southern California like Xi'an food at Xian Famous Foods.

    Xian Famous Foods
    I recommend the cumin lamb hand pulled noodles and/or the cumin lamb burger
    67 Bayard Street
    http://xianfoods.com/locations.php

    You might also like to try some Fujian food or visit He Nan Flavor.

    Fujian restaurants
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761615

    He Nan Flavor
    68B Forsyth Street
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/774685

    While at Katz's, share a pastrami sandwich, and save room for a bagel sandwich with smoked salmon, capers, red onion, tomato, and cream cheese at Russ & Daughters. Note that it's takeout only, but they have benches outside. Stay dry today! Also the typical bagel shop in NYC will not toast the bagel unless you specifically ask (even then some won't/can't do it).

    BTW, I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour but sub in Pickle Guys for Guss' Pickles:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493333

    This thread from someone planning to visit NYC (and also living in Southern California) might help:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/800986

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    Russ & Daughters
    179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

    Katz's Delicatessen
    205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

    Pickle Guys
    49 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

    Dim Sum Go Go
    5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

    Red Egg
    202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

    He Nan Flavor
    68 Forsyth St, New York, NY 10002

    Xi'an Famous Foods
    67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

    1 Reply
    1. re: kathryn

      I shared a pastrami sandwich at Katz's but also had a bowl of matzo ball soup so I didn't have room for Russ and Daughters. It was well worth the 3 subway transfers! I just wish the corn rye had a crisp chewy crust. Thanks for RGR's self guided tour. We had fun walking!

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      Katz's Delicatessen
      205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

    2. Near your hotel, Viand Cafe opens at 6:00 am.

      Other suggestions for lunch or dinner:

      Telepan
      Fatty Crab
      Ouest
      Nice Matin
      Salumeria Rosi
      Fairway Cafe
      Grand Sichuan

      Here's a related thread on dining near the Beacon
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761500

      For the best pizza, it would be best to go downtown. Keste, Motorino, and Rubirosa are my favorites, but this is a hotly debated topic on this board.

      The best pasta in the neighborhood would be at Lincoln. The best seafood pasta would be at Marea on Central Park South.

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      Telepan
      72 W. 69th Street, New York, NY 10023

      Ouest
      2315 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

      Nice Matin
      201 West 79th Street, New York, NY 10024

      Viand Cafe
      2130 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

      Salumeria Rosi
      283 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10023

      Keste Pizza & Vino
      271 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

      Fatty Crab
      2170 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

      Marea
      240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

      Motorino
      349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

      Lincoln
      142 W 65th St, New York, NY 10023

      Rubirosa
      235 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

      Grand Sichuan
      307 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10023

      Fairway Cafe
      2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

      1. Thanks kathryn and h manning so much for the help and guiding me to threads. I'm flying as I type. I realized I typed am instead of pm, Yikes! So no, I don't have to worry about food at 6am. Just 6pm. Regarding dim sum, I am old school. While I like the high end joints where you order off the menu, I prefer the anticipation of cart service. I have already put Xian Famous Foods on my radar and appreciated the other recs. For pizza, you say downtown. I'm guessing you mean NY proper. Forgive my ignorance. I'm going to start plotting places on a map if I can keep this connection!.
        Thanks again!!

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        1. re: Fru

          For old school dim sum off the carts, Jing Fong and Golden Unicorn in Chinatown are popular.

          Oriental Garden is also widely liked for its Cantonese style seafood.

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          Oriental Garden
          14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

          Golden Unicorn
          18 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

          Jing Fong
          18 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

          1. re: Fru

            When we New Yorkers say "Downtown", we mean the southern part of Manhattan. The island of Manhattan can be roughly divided into 3 sections, from north to south. The below is a rough guide to the area designations.

            Uptown: North of 60th Street

            Midtown: 34th Street to 60th Street

            Downtown: South of 34th Street

            The horizontal roads spanning east-to-west are called "Streets" (the more north you go, the higher the street numbers are), while the vertical roads spanning north-to-south are called "Avenues" (the more west you go, the higher the avenue numbers are).

            If you take a look at a map of Manhattan, this will make better sense.

            1. re: Fru

              Jing Fong is probably one of the more impressive ones in terms of carts and size of the room. Oriental Garden can be fun, too, but not all the food comes on carts--some comes on trays.

              For the top pizza in town, you'll need to go south of the UWS since your hotel is on 74th and Broadway. Right now, I really like Motorino and John's (only the Bleecker St one).

              Since you're right by the Beacon Theatre, for a good dinner destination, look in some of these threads:
              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/764658
              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/743949
              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/749512

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              Oriental Garden
              14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

              Jing Fong
              18 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

              John's Pizzeria
              278 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

              Motorino
              349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

            2. Take a walk up to Zabars, great fun!, In the neighborhood, For some more moderate options,Bistro Cassis, Cafe Luxenbough, Tenzan ( sushi), Kefi (greek), In chinatown, Vietnamese is also very good, try Nha Trang Centre. Red Egg has 1/2 price dim sum and 2/1 drinks for happy hour.Carnige is way past is prime ( sadly), Kat'z or Sarges are better. Have fun!!!

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              Katz's Delicatessen
              205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

              Zabar's
              2245 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

              Nha Trang
              148 Centre St, New York, NY 10013

              Sarge's Delicatessen
              548 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10016

              Carnegie Deli
              854 7th Ave, New York, NY 10019

              Kefi
              505 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

              Cafe Luxembourg
              200 W 70th St, New York, NY 10023

              Bistro Cassis
              225 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

              Tenzan
              285 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

              Red Egg
              202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

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              1. re: rkaene

                Just came back from Zabars. Overwhelmed, bought pot holders.

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                Zabar's
                2245 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

              2. For Pizza on the UWS, I recommend Dean's Pizza. It's really good think crust, brick oven pizza. And they use really fresh ingredients.

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                Dean's Pizzeria
                215 W 85th St, New York, NY 10024

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                1. re: RMG

                  Is think a cross between thick and thin:) We want thin.

                2. Near your hotel, I'd recommend Good Enough to Eat (Amsterdam and 84th). Be sure to try the chocolate cake, coconut cake, and/or german chocolate cake. Their other meals are consistently good if you're in the market for super comfort food. Their breakfasts are very popular, so expect to wait.

                  A wonderful breakfast option is upstairs at Fairway. Good lunches too. Also very casual.

                  On an entirely different level is Telepan: lunch, dinner, or weekend brunch. Certainly the best restaurant on the UWS.

                  Good luck!

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                  Good Enough to Eat
                  483 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                  Telepan
                  72 W. 69th Street, New York, NY 10023

                  Fairway Cafe
                  2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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                  1. re: mahler5

                    Second Fairway Cafe. If the line at GETE is too long, you should go about 3 block uptown to Barney Greengrass. In fact, you should go even if there is no line.

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                    Barney Greengrass
                    541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                    1. re: rteplow

                      Please don't take this as a dis. Having eaten deli all of my life in So Cal(I know, I know, no comparison to NY), I was very disappointed in the Beverly Hills Barney Greengrass. Is it fair to compare it with the original? Issac Gellis, which I guess is long gone is where my dad used to go with his parents 60+ years ago. We'll probably be going to Katz's so my hubby can have pastrami and Russ and Daughters so I can get my fill of smoked fish and bring some back to the in laws in Springfield Ma. I'm heading out for a walk to Zabars now...

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                      Barney Greengrass
                      541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                    2. re: mahler5

                      Went to the Fairway for breakfast and burgers. Would never have known that they even had an upstairs. Thank you. Wish Pasadena had a place like this but we don't have enough of a population to support it. Man, those potatoes! I loved the 7 grain bread toast. The boys got burgers. My husband was in heaven-perfect medium with a touch of pink. So nice to get a burger and not have the fear of God put into you because it wasn't cooked to death. Would love to try Telepan.

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                      Fairway Cafe
                      2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

                    3. don't leave town without getting a cookie from Levain on 74th and Amsterdam. they're considered by many to be the best.

                      i'm also growing more and more impressed by Epicerie Boulud. their vegetable dishes have all been fantastic, especially the artichoke and carrot salad. they're also serving a honey-yogurt flavor gelato that is really worth trying.

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                      Levain Bakery
                      167 W 74th St, New York, NY 10023

                      Epicerie Boulud
                      1900 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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                      1. re: coasts

                        Love my veggies. Thanks for the tips coasts!

                          1. It may not match the standards of some of the other responses here, but you will be down the block from Big Nick's Pizza Joint & Burger Joint. It's a local institution, having been there since the 1960's. Open around the clock (so you would have gotten a fine breakfast even if you really had been arriving at 6 AM) and with a menu so extensive it's really (really!) a book, you'll find just about anything, ranging from breakfasts (around the clock) to serious burgers to pizza, but also including Nick's wide range of Greek specialties. It may not be pretty, but it's convenient to where you will be (actually, are now) and you can get just about anything you want whenever you want it.

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                            Big Nick's
                            2175 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

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                            1. re: CatoUWS

                              I just walked by today wondering about it. Thanks!

                            2. Luke's Lobster for lobster rolls on Amsterdam and 80th St.

                              Jacques Torres chocolates (also hot chocolate) on Amsterdam between 73rd and 74th St.

                              Screme gelato truck on 73rd and Broadway right by the entrance of the subway station.

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                              Jacques Torres
                              285 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10023

                              Luke's Lobster
                              426 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

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                              1. re: peter j

                                Certainly second Jacques Torres.

                                I haven't been, but there's also a Screme store on Broadway between 70th and 71st (or maybe a block south).

                                And, while we're down there, another gustatory landmark is Gray's Papaya (Bway/Amst and 72). Again, it's not pretty, but it's a good hot dog (if you like that sort of thing) and cheap.

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                                Gray's Papaya
                                2090 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

                                Screme
                                2030 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

                              2. In addition to Fairway Cafe and Jacques Torres, you might be interested in getting snacks from:
                                Salumeria Rosi - meats and cheeses
                                Grandaisy - roman style room temperature pizza
                                Magnolia Bakery - love their ice box cake, not so much the cupcakes

                                The old Tavern on the Green space has a food truck terrace now:
                                http://www.nycgovparks.org/events/201...

                                Also try Sarabeth's for breakfast.

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                                Grandaisy Bakery
                                176 W 72nd St, New York, NY 10023

                                Sarabeth's
                                423 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10024

                                Magnolia Bakery
                                200 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

                                Salumeria Rosi
                                283 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10023

                                3 Replies
                                1. re: kathryn

                                  Thanks kathryn! We are headed out to Katz's and maybe Russ and Daughters to fortify ourselves before the aquarium. Any cheap eats recs in Brooklyn for later?

                                  1. re: Fru

                                    You should ask that question on the Outer Boroughs board for more responses

                                    1. re: Bkeats

                                      You are absolutely right! I was being lazy:)