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Fru Aug 14, 2011 10:33 PM

Hi Hounds, First timer to NY. Not as organized as I should be as I have just started to do my research. We love good food but on a budget-2 adults and 1 12year old. Getting into JFK at 5:15 am hoping to find some casual options close to our hotel. Whatever is best in the area-Pizza, Pasta, Seafood, In Season...Ethnic that isn't Mexican or Thai as we have plenty in LA (Pasadena). We plan on going either to Katz's or Carnegie for deli at some point and spending time in China Town.
I can never get enough dim sum. I'm turning in now as I have a long day ahead of me so I'll be checking in during our flight. Thanks in advance. Sorry if this is too brief.

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    kathryn Aug 17, 2011 06:53 AM

    In addition to Fairway Cafe and Jacques Torres, you might be interested in getting snacks from:
    Salumeria Rosi - meats and cheeses
    Grandaisy - roman style room temperature pizza
    Magnolia Bakery - love their ice box cake, not so much the cupcakes

    The old Tavern on the Green space has a food truck terrace now:
    http://www.nycgovparks.org/events/201...

    Also try Sarabeth's for breakfast.

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    Grandaisy Bakery
    176 W 72nd St, New York, NY 10023

    Sarabeth's
    423 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10024

    Magnolia Bakery
    200 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

    Salumeria Rosi
    283 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10023

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      Fru Aug 17, 2011 08:08 AM

      Thanks kathryn! We are headed out to Katz's and maybe Russ and Daughters to fortify ourselves before the aquarium. Any cheap eats recs in Brooklyn for later?

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        Bkeats Aug 17, 2011 12:18 PM

        You should ask that question on the Outer Boroughs board for more responses

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          Fru Aug 17, 2011 08:20 PM

          You are absolutely right! I was being lazy:)

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      peter j Aug 16, 2011 10:58 AM

      Luke's Lobster for lobster rolls on Amsterdam and 80th St.

      Jacques Torres chocolates (also hot chocolate) on Amsterdam between 73rd and 74th St.

      Screme gelato truck on 73rd and Broadway right by the entrance of the subway station.

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      Jacques Torres
      285 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10023

      Luke's Lobster
      426 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

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        CatoUWS Aug 16, 2011 11:01 AM

        Certainly second Jacques Torres.

        I haven't been, but there's also a Screme store on Broadway between 70th and 71st (or maybe a block south).

        And, while we're down there, another gustatory landmark is Gray's Papaya (Bway/Amst and 72). Again, it's not pretty, but it's a good hot dog (if you like that sort of thing) and cheap.

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        Gray's Papaya
        2090 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

        Screme
        2030 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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        CatoUWS Aug 16, 2011 08:39 AM

        It may not match the standards of some of the other responses here, but you will be down the block from Big Nick's Pizza Joint & Burger Joint. It's a local institution, having been there since the 1960's. Open around the clock (so you would have gotten a fine breakfast even if you really had been arriving at 6 AM) and with a menu so extensive it's really (really!) a book, you'll find just about anything, ranging from breakfasts (around the clock) to serious burgers to pizza, but also including Nick's wide range of Greek specialties. It may not be pretty, but it's convenient to where you will be (actually, are now) and you can get just about anything you want whenever you want it.

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        Big Nick's
        2175 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

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          Fru Aug 16, 2011 02:46 PM

          I just walked by today wondering about it. Thanks!

        2. coasts Aug 16, 2011 04:40 AM

          don't leave town without getting a cookie from Levain on 74th and Amsterdam. they're considered by many to be the best.

          i'm also growing more and more impressed by Epicerie Boulud. their vegetable dishes have all been fantastic, especially the artichoke and carrot salad. they're also serving a honey-yogurt flavor gelato that is really worth trying.

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          Levain Bakery
          167 W 74th St, New York, NY 10023

          Epicerie Boulud
          1900 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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            Fru Aug 16, 2011 04:44 AM

            Love my veggies. Thanks for the tips coasts!

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              mahler5 Aug 16, 2011 10:49 AM

              I concur with coasts.

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                rkaene Aug 16, 2011 07:18 PM

                great reccomendations

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                mahler5 Aug 15, 2011 06:40 PM

                Near your hotel, I'd recommend Good Enough to Eat (Amsterdam and 84th). Be sure to try the chocolate cake, coconut cake, and/or german chocolate cake. Their other meals are consistently good if you're in the market for super comfort food. Their breakfasts are very popular, so expect to wait.

                A wonderful breakfast option is upstairs at Fairway. Good lunches too. Also very casual.

                On an entirely different level is Telepan: lunch, dinner, or weekend brunch. Certainly the best restaurant on the UWS.

                Good luck!

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                Good Enough to Eat
                483 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                Telepan
                72 W. 69th Street, New York, NY 10023

                Fairway Cafe
                2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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                  rteplow Aug 16, 2011 05:26 AM

                  Second Fairway Cafe. If the line at GETE is too long, you should go about 3 block uptown to Barney Greengrass. In fact, you should go even if there is no line.

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                  Barney Greengrass
                  541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

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                    Fru Aug 16, 2011 06:10 AM

                    Please don't take this as a dis. Having eaten deli all of my life in So Cal(I know, I know, no comparison to NY), I was very disappointed in the Beverly Hills Barney Greengrass. Is it fair to compare it with the original? Issac Gellis, which I guess is long gone is where my dad used to go with his parents 60+ years ago. We'll probably be going to Katz's so my hubby can have pastrami and Russ and Daughters so I can get my fill of smoked fish and bring some back to the in laws in Springfield Ma. I'm heading out for a walk to Zabars now...

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                    Barney Greengrass
                    541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

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                    Fru Aug 16, 2011 03:03 PM

                    Went to the Fairway for breakfast and burgers. Would never have known that they even had an upstairs. Thank you. Wish Pasadena had a place like this but we don't have enough of a population to support it. Man, those potatoes! I loved the 7 grain bread toast. The boys got burgers. My husband was in heaven-perfect medium with a touch of pink. So nice to get a burger and not have the fear of God put into you because it wasn't cooked to death. Would love to try Telepan.

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                    Fairway Cafe
                    2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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                    RMG Aug 15, 2011 03:52 PM

                    For Pizza on the UWS, I recommend Dean's Pizza. It's really good think crust, brick oven pizza. And they use really fresh ingredients.

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                    Dean's Pizzeria
                    215 W 85th St, New York, NY 10024

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                      Fru Aug 16, 2011 08:24 AM

                      Is think a cross between thick and thin:) We want thin.

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                      rkaene Aug 15, 2011 02:23 PM

                      Take a walk up to Zabars, great fun!, In the neighborhood, For some more moderate options,Bistro Cassis, Cafe Luxenbough, Tenzan ( sushi), Kefi (greek), In chinatown, Vietnamese is also very good, try Nha Trang Centre. Red Egg has 1/2 price dim sum and 2/1 drinks for happy hour.Carnige is way past is prime ( sadly), Kat'z or Sarges are better. Have fun!!!

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                      Katz's Delicatessen
                      205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                      Zabar's
                      2245 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

                      Nha Trang
                      148 Centre St, New York, NY 10013

                      Sarge's Delicatessen
                      548 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10016

                      Carnegie Deli
                      854 7th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                      Kefi
                      505 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

                      Cafe Luxembourg
                      200 W 70th St, New York, NY 10023

                      Bistro Cassis
                      225 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

                      Tenzan
                      285 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10023

                      Red Egg
                      202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

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                        Fru Aug 16, 2011 08:23 AM

                        Just came back from Zabars. Overwhelmed, bought pot holders.

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                        Zabar's
                        2245 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

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                        Fru Aug 15, 2011 11:38 AM

                        Thanks kathryn and h manning so much for the help and guiding me to threads. I'm flying as I type. I realized I typed am instead of pm, Yikes! So no, I don't have to worry about food at 6am. Just 6pm. Regarding dim sum, I am old school. While I like the high end joints where you order off the menu, I prefer the anticipation of cart service. I have already put Xian Famous Foods on my radar and appreciated the other recs. For pizza, you say downtown. I'm guessing you mean NY proper. Forgive my ignorance. I'm going to start plotting places on a map if I can keep this connection!.
                        Thanks again!!

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                          Cheeryvisage Aug 15, 2011 11:41 AM

                          For old school dim sum off the carts, Jing Fong and Golden Unicorn in Chinatown are popular.

                          Oriental Garden is also widely liked for its Cantonese style seafood.

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                          Oriental Garden
                          14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

                          Golden Unicorn
                          18 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

                          Jing Fong
                          18 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

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                            Cheeryvisage Aug 15, 2011 11:51 AM

                            When we New Yorkers say "Downtown", we mean the southern part of Manhattan. The island of Manhattan can be roughly divided into 3 sections, from north to south. The below is a rough guide to the area designations.

                            Uptown: North of 60th Street

                            Midtown: 34th Street to 60th Street

                            Downtown: South of 34th Street

                            The horizontal roads spanning east-to-west are called "Streets" (the more north you go, the higher the street numbers are), while the vertical roads spanning north-to-south are called "Avenues" (the more west you go, the higher the avenue numbers are).

                            If you take a look at a map of Manhattan, this will make better sense.

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                              Fru Aug 16, 2011 04:46 AM

                              Ahhhh! Thank you:)

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                              kathryn Aug 15, 2011 12:05 PM

                              Jing Fong is probably one of the more impressive ones in terms of carts and size of the room. Oriental Garden can be fun, too, but not all the food comes on carts--some comes on trays.

                              For the top pizza in town, you'll need to go south of the UWS since your hotel is on 74th and Broadway. Right now, I really like Motorino and John's (only the Bleecker St one).

                              Since you're right by the Beacon Theatre, for a good dinner destination, look in some of these threads:
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/764658
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/743949
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/749512

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                              Oriental Garden
                              14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

                              Jing Fong
                              18 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

                              John's Pizzeria
                              278 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

                              Motorino
                              349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

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                              H Manning Aug 15, 2011 07:32 AM

                              Near your hotel, Viand Cafe opens at 6:00 am.

                              Other suggestions for lunch or dinner:

                              Telepan
                              Fatty Crab
                              Ouest
                              Nice Matin
                              Salumeria Rosi
                              Fairway Cafe
                              Grand Sichuan

                              Here's a related thread on dining near the Beacon
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761500

                              For the best pizza, it would be best to go downtown. Keste, Motorino, and Rubirosa are my favorites, but this is a hotly debated topic on this board.

                              The best pasta in the neighborhood would be at Lincoln. The best seafood pasta would be at Marea on Central Park South.

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                              Telepan
                              72 W. 69th Street, New York, NY 10023

                              Ouest
                              2315 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

                              Nice Matin
                              201 West 79th Street, New York, NY 10024

                              Viand Cafe
                              2130 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

                              Salumeria Rosi
                              283 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, NY 10023

                              Keste Pizza & Vino
                              271 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

                              Fatty Crab
                              2170 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

                              Marea
                              240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

                              Motorino
                              349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                              Lincoln
                              142 W 65th St, New York, NY 10023

                              Rubirosa
                              235 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

                              Grand Sichuan
                              307 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10023

                              Fairway Cafe
                              2127 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

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                                kathryn Aug 15, 2011 07:14 AM

                                Yikes! I hope you found something good near your hotel at 6am!

                                This board is not heavily trafficked between midnight and 8-9am, sadly.

                                For Chinatown dim sum, check out Dim Sum Go Go and Red Egg. However, in comparison to LA, our dim sum just won't be as good. I'd recommend eating some foods you can't find easily in southern California like Xi'an food at Xian Famous Foods.

                                Xian Famous Foods
                                I recommend the cumin lamb hand pulled noodles and/or the cumin lamb burger
                                67 Bayard Street
                                http://xianfoods.com/locations.php

                                You might also like to try some Fujian food or visit He Nan Flavor.

                                Fujian restaurants
                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761615

                                He Nan Flavor
                                68B Forsyth Street
                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/774685

                                While at Katz's, share a pastrami sandwich, and save room for a bagel sandwich with smoked salmon, capers, red onion, tomato, and cream cheese at Russ & Daughters. Note that it's takeout only, but they have benches outside. Stay dry today! Also the typical bagel shop in NYC will not toast the bagel unless you specifically ask (even then some won't/can't do it).

                                BTW, I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour but sub in Pickle Guys for Guss' Pickles:
                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493333

                                This thread from someone planning to visit NYC (and also living in Southern California) might help:
                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/800986

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                                Russ & Daughters
                                179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                                Katz's Delicatessen
                                205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                                Pickle Guys
                                49 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

                                Dim Sum Go Go
                                5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

                                Red Egg
                                202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

                                He Nan Flavor
                                68 Forsyth St, New York, NY 10002

                                Xi'an Famous Foods
                                67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

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                                1. re: kathryn
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                                  Fru Aug 18, 2011 04:08 PM

                                  I shared a pastrami sandwich at Katz's but also had a bowl of matzo ball soup so I didn't have room for Russ and Daughters. It was well worth the 3 subway transfers! I just wish the corn rye had a crisp chewy crust. Thanks for RGR's self guided tour. We had fun walking!

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                                  Katz's Delicatessen
                                  205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

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