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steakrules85 Aug 9, 2011 10:42 AM

Planning my next Italian destination and these three are on my list to try. All sound very good and have received some praise. Where should I go next? Specific dish recommendations would also be appreciated if possible. Thanks!

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Dell'Anima
38 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10003

Ciano
45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

A Voce
10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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    Sneakeater Aug 9, 2011 11:11 AM

    There's an element of apples-and-oranges here, as Dell'Anima is much less fancy (and expensive) than the other two.

    I like Ciano for its great wine program. The food is well better than adequate.

    Others disagree, but I don't think A Voce has been very good since Andrew Carmellini left.

    I love Dell'Anima. But again, it's a tratorria to the other two's ristorantes. If casual is what you want, though, I'd say its at the top of the Manhattan casual Italian heap.

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    A Voce
    41 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10010

    Dell'Anima
    38 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10003

    Ciano
    45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

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    1. re: Sneakeater
      k
      kathryn Aug 9, 2011 01:39 PM

      What Sneakeater said. Dell'anima is much more of an everyday restaurant. I've not been impressed with A Voce since Missy Robbins took over; it's not bad, per se, just not great. I've not been to Ciano yet but I walk past a fair bit and it's a much nicer, white tablecloth sort of place.

      If you end up at Dell'anima, I like the charred octopus with chorizo, the sweetbreads, the brussels sprouts, the spicy chicken (Pollo al Diavolo). The menu is pretty seasonal and the pastas change frequently. I'm fond of anything on there with mushrooms, or anything carbonara. I think the only thing I've been let down on was the affogato since it melted insanely fast, and had too little gelato to espresso, though we were sitting outside in the summer.

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      Ciano
      45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

      A Voce
      10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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      rrems Aug 9, 2011 02:11 PM

      I have not been to the other two, but Ciano is currently my favorite Italian. If you do a search on Ciano with my id, you should find my earlier posts with recommended dishes.

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        msny98 Aug 9, 2011 03:09 PM

        +1 on Ciano

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        Ciano
        45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

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        thegforceny Aug 9, 2011 06:14 PM

        Remove A Voce. Nothing special anymore. No Marea? Seafood forward Italian?

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        Marea
        240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

        A Voce
        10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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        1. re: thegforceny
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          steakrules85 Aug 9, 2011 07:09 PM

          I've been to Marea and while I love it I'd like to try something different.

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          Marea
          240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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          Simon Aug 9, 2011 07:56 PM

          hi steakrules,

          i've never been to A Voce...

          i went to Ciano once, very recently...i went there w/ someone who was craving dessert (part of the "Milk Chocolate Cake, or Dessert for a Hungry Model" thread i posted a couple weeks ago)...and we waltzed in around 10pm...the staff and servers were incredibly nice and went out of their way to set us up w/ a cute/cozy table...we had the shrimp meatballs -- good but a little too "wedding appetizer-like" for my taste, and some finocciona (sp?)...my friend had a post-modern semifreddo version of a tiramisu, which she hated (yet devoured every bite of -- go figure)...my overall take: lovely staff, lovely setting, but i can't really evaluate the food fully based on our late-night snack --- but my impression is that it might be a little too foo-foo for my taste (i prefer more rustic simple Italian dishes)...

          -- Dell'Anima i've been to twice recently recently at the bar...great vibe, great staff...i've loved the seabass tartar...i've loved the scallop crudo...i've loved the heirloom tomato salad...i liked the octopus in the charred octopus ok, but i thought it compared poorly to a similar at Pulino's and at most Greek restaurants and i thought the beans in it were awful...they had several dishes on the menu that i hope to try soon, esp the pork chop...

          So, based on my limited experience, i'd say Dell'Anima...i'm really taken w/ it...please report back if you go there and let us know your impressions...

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          Dell'Anima
          38 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10003

          Ciano
          45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

          A Voce
          10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

          Pulino's
          282 Bowery, New York, NY 10012

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            j.jessica.lee Aug 9, 2011 08:47 PM

            Hey steak!

            I agree. I've always left A Voce underwhelmed. The one thing I do love there is the bomboloni filled with cream. Ridiculously delicious!

            I've been to Ciano once and really liked it, though it didn't blow me away. A tad precious, but lovely nonetheless. I tried a bunch of the pastas and thought the cortecce was great - I think it's on the market menu. Also liked the meatballs, of course.

            I've never been to dell'anima and am also very interested in going. Looks cute and the menu sounds wonderful.

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            Ciano
            45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

            A Voce
            10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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              RGR Aug 9, 2011 10:55 PM

              steak,

              Presuming you mean A Voce Madison Ave., we went the week it opened (something we almost never do). Carmellini's food was excellent, but we never went back because of the hideously high noise level. We've never been to A Voce TWC, not to Dell'Anima.

              We've been to Ciano four times, the most recent being lunch (July 13) and dinner (July 31). The 3-course market menu lunch was terrific -- an incredible bargain at $21. At dinner a week ago Sunday, we had the whole chicken for two baked in a clay pot, which blew us away. Previously, we've had the signature veal meatballs (fabulous!), and I had lamb chops (wonderful!). We've also done a tastng dinner (excellent!) I think you can see that we've sampled a good representation of what Chef Shea Galante is doing there. Service is very friendly and attentive, and the space is comfortable with rustic charm. To sum it up, we LOVE Ciano!

              Ciano photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157627332687474/

              and here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157627190819794/

              http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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              1. re: RGR
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                Sneakeater Aug 10, 2011 07:45 AM

                Do not infer from RGR's post that Andrew Carmellini is still the chef at A Voce. He is not.

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                A Voce
                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                1. re: Sneakeater
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                  RGR Aug 10, 2011 08:33 AM

                  Excellent point, Sneakeater! Re-reading it, I can see how one might infer that. A Voce's current chef (both locations) is Missy Robins.

                  http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                  A Voce
                  10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                  1. re: RGR
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                    Sneakeater Aug 10, 2011 08:58 AM

                    Right. Obviously I know you knew that, but the inference was there to be drawn.

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                      steakrules85 Aug 10, 2011 09:08 AM

                      Thanks everyone. I was aware of the chef change but didn't know that many think the quality had worsened. Ciano sounds great and will probably be my pick.

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                      Ciano
                      45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

                      1. re: steakrules85
                        r
                        RGR Aug 10, 2011 09:23 AM

                        Even though we've not been to A Voce since Missy Robins took over, while I'm guessing her style is different from Carmellini's, I'm not sure that means the quality has worsened.

                        In any case, obviously, I thin Ciano is a good choice.

                        http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                        Ciano
                        45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

                        A Voce
                        10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                        1. re: RGR
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                          steakrules85 Aug 10, 2011 01:12 PM

                          Just going based on what the other reported in the thread.

                          "Others disagree, but I don't think A Voce has been very good since Andrew Carmellini left"- Sneakeater

                          "I've not been impressed with A Voce since Missy Robbins took over; it's not bad, per se, just not great" - kathryn

                          In any event I will still probably try it for myself at some point.

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                          A Voce
                          10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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