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Aug 9, 2011 07:28 AM

Masterchef 8/8 spoilers

Tracy didn't want Christian on her team, which I think led to her team losing. Tracy then undercooks her salmon, earning the boot. The salmon fileting competition is pretty neat.

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  1. Poor Adrien sure could have used a fish scaler.

    1. I liked Tracy, but I knew she was toast when I saw her hacking up that Salmon, too bad.

      1. I too was hoping Tracy would make the final 4, she started off so strong. Please please make Suzy leave next!

        I have a feeling Christian wins.

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        1. re: C70

          I hope not. At the beginning, I liked both Christian and Suzy; now I find them both to be very arrogant. I'd love for Ben to win (but I'm sure he'll be next to go). It would be funny to see both Christian and Suzy as the final 2; wouldn't know for whom I would cheer.

          1. re: ellenost

            Christian is arrogant but Suzy is downright nasty. She constantly calls other people stupid. I don't have a problem with arrogance that's backed up by talent. In contrast, I find Suzy to be mean hack.

            Sad to see Ben go. My theory is that a person with a good edit will win and the only one left is Adrien. Ben also calls out Adrien as the winner - a little foreshadowing?

            1. re: Worldwide Diner

              Hope so. I also wouldn't mind seeing Jennifer win.

              1. re: Worldwide Diner

                I totally agree WD, I was a little pissed when Suzy nailed the venison dish...I so wanted to see her gone!

              2. re: ellenost

                "It would be funny to see both Christian and Suzy as the final 2; wouldn't know for whom I would cheer."

                Id cheer for a pressure cooker explosion.

                1. re: twyst

                  Well, at least Suzy is gone. Now, to get rid of Christian. He's really too arrogant. I wonder if he's as much of jerk in real life as he is on TV. Maybe that's why he's a stay at home dad.

                  1. re: ellenost

                    I read something that Ben Starr had written about Christian saying what a great guy he was as well as a great chef and how much Ben valued his friendship. That shifted the way Christian occurred for me and, while Christian is unquestionably cocky and arrogant, I began wondering if the editing didn't have a bit hand in how he appears as the bad guy.

                    1. re: chicgail

                      I wonder if they'll try to rehabilitate him. At the end of last night's episode, during he pressure challenge, Gordo asked him why he's such a douche and he referenced having a hard life. Earlier on he said something about fighting not to do drugs and custody of his kid. Anyway, I should start a new topic for the finale.

                    2. re: ellenost

                      Although I will be rooting for adrian, I wont be too upset if christian wins. He's cocky and could stand to be taken down a few notches, but I also think somewhere there is a nice guy in there.

                      Suzy absolutely disgusted me. Im not sure there's ever been a tv personality that I have had the level of disdain for that I felt for that woman. I seriously loathed her.

                      1. re: twyst

                        Agreed on all you say -
                        Really like Adrian...he seems truly likeable
                        Christian has got that cocky attitude that obviously stems from severe insecurity. It's ovious, so therefore, I don't dislike him, as much as some people seem to.

                        Suzy on the other hand, seems to have led a life of privlege - and her arrogance stems from being spoiled .(or so it seems)
                        Some of the things that came out of her mouth were so obnoxious, I wanted to jump through the tv and give her a knuckle sandwich.

                        The blondes alright......but her LAUGH!

                        I hope either Adrian or Christian wins

                        1. re: twyst

                          Totally agree about Suzy. I laughed out loud when she made a comment about Christian's ego and how she didn't have one. Wow...seriously delusional!

                          1. re: sibeats

                            Yeah, Suzy was a riot. Totally un-self aware.

                            I don't think Christian can be rehabilitated enough to make him the kind of MasterChef they can market a cookbook around (and, face it, MC is all about product marketing), but he certainly seems to have the talent.

                            I just can't get over his comment a couple of episodes ago, (paraphrasing) "The judges expect great things from me because I am great."

                            Still, my husband thinks he's going to go home with the prize. He called the winner of Food Network Star in episode 2 or 3, so I imagine he could be right with MasterChef, too.

                            Now that Ben's gone, I guess Adrian is my fav.


                  2. re: C70

                    This is Masterchef, not Top Chef - in other words, there is no way Christian wins, cause there's no way Masterchef would allow the eventual winner to come off so arrogant in the edit. Ben was a much better bet, i thought. Can't say with any confidence who will win, but I feel pretty good predicting who won't. Masterchef is pretty bent, even as reality TV competitions go.

                    I'll be eating some major humble pie if Christian wins.

                    1. re: cowboyardee

                      I agree with you about how there is no way that Christian wins. First, the judges seem to be really tired of his arrogance and want to bring him down a few pegs (rightly so). Second, he just isn't as marketable as someone who is nicer and personable. That's also why I don't think Suzy will win because she's kind of mean. She always has a smirk when other contestants are being dressed down. She has a different kind of arrogance - she thinks she's superior to everyone but doesn't quite have the talent to match.

                      Last season, the two finalists were both talented. I thought that the second place guy was a hair more so - just a hair. But, Whitney ended up winning and I suspect it was due to marketability. The second place guy was also arrogant, although not nearly as much as Christian.

                      I was surprised and sad to see Ben go. Other than being a talented cook and having passion for food, he just seems like a nice guy. He's always so gracious and admits fault. He is his own harshest critic. He knew his venison was not good and admitted so. He also did so with some other dish.

                      I don't think Adrian will win. He's not consistent and seems to have a hard time following directions. Wasn't he the one who didn't plate the fish and chips even remotely close to the finished product? But, he does seem like a pleasant person.

                      My prediction now that Ben Starr is gone - Jennifer will be the winner.

                      1. re: beetlebug

                        I agree on everything except the question of marketability. It's not as if they have marketed Whitney except for the one "product placement" appearance on the show. I don't think they give a hoot except for show ratings and advertising dollars. There goes my cynicism again.

                        1. re: chicgail

                          I kind of agree - it's not Next Food Network Star, is it?

                          Not too sure what the winner actually gets?

                          1. re: chicgail

                            Like I said above, I don't think it's anywhere near as easy to pick the winner as it is to pick out who is obviously not going to win. IMO, it's not that the winners are picked on the basis of marketability or anything like that - people are more or less sent home on the basis of their cooking performance week to week, with a little dramatic flair added. But I believe the show isn't aired until a little while after all the filming is done - the editors just wouldn't give the eventual winner an 'arrogant' edit, because then people would be swearing off the show like they do with Top Chef every time someone unlikable wins. And compared to TC, there's a lot less of the 'may the best chef/cook win' attitude among MC's fans (generally - not necessarily on CH).

                          2. re: beetlebug

                            Not sure I'd say that Suzy is mean, she is deffinitely unkind to the others, though mostly when she speaks I think this girl is so delusional. Was so hoping Ramsey was going to tast both sheapards pies and told her it tasted like baby vomit.

                            Now that would have been mean. And I feel mean for hoping it would have happened. I think I'll hate myself some more.

                            Winner has to be Adrienne or Jennifer. This show is all about marketing and they are the only two that can help sell MasterChef pots pans and knives.


                            1. re: JuniorBalloon

                              I so wanted her dish to be tasted and for it to be awful too.

                            2. re: beetlebug

                              Christian's brand of arrogance is sort of a juvenile, macho, jackass bravado type of arrogance. Suzy's arrogance is the fake, juvenile, mean girl type. The two-faced "everyone is so talented, it's going to be so hard going up against such skilled cooks" girl who then doesn't even try to hide her smirks when someone else gets a bad review.

                              I also liked Ben's attitude. It's too bad he's gone.

                              I also think Jennifer's going to take it. If Gordon liked her risotto, that's pretty damned good. He always complains about the risottos on Hell's Kitchen.

                              1. re: beetlebug

                                I'm just reading this thread today (after the finale). And I had to laugh when I read this from Beetlebug: "The second place guy was also arrogant, although not nearly as much as Christian." Ummmm.yeah. That second place guy was David Miller - from Boston, MA.

                                What IS it about Massachusetts with the arrogant home cooks? LOL

                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                  "What IS it about Massachusetts with the arrogant home cooks? LOL"

                                  I don't think its just Massachusetts, I think it's probably the northeast in general. Guys from NYC, Boston, Philly etc are kind of known for being very self confident and for being "ball busters" The culture is just a little different up there and to the uninitiated it comes off the wrong way sometimes.

                                  1. re: twyst

                                    Mike I (Top Chef) is another example of the typical arrogant NE chef guy...

                          3. I loved watching GR scale, fillet and divide that salmon. He made it look effortless and like a work of moveable art.

                            I understand why Tracy didn't want Christian on her team but it wasn't the best move.

                            I suspect Adrian will be next to go. I was surprised that he wasn't also asked to leave with his uneven pieces of salmon.

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                            1. re: beetlebug

                              Do you think he actually got all the scales off? I mean, it looked like he did it so fast and it's not like Joe comes over and critiques the scaling job. I'm not doubting Gordon but it seems like he just ran his knife over the scales a few times.

                              Am I alone in being pretty impressed with the contestants? I cook a lot and am considered by my friends and family to be very good but I couldn't do most of those things without recipes and under a time constraint. How do you make a six-layer cake without a recipe? I guess I could butcher a salmon but not with Joe B starring at me and not in that amount of time.

                              1. re: chefhound

                                That's because the show is edited to make it seem like the contestants have no clue. The girl from the first season constantly said, "I've never made this before!" or "I don't know what that is!" before just about every challenge, yet was able to make everything just fine (apparently).

                                They see recipes and a demonstration prior to cooking.

                                1. re: tjr

                                  Thanks for the info. This is the first season I've watched and I was thinking that these home cooks are amazing! If there are recipes and a demo, then I'm not so impressed.

                                2. re: chefhound

                                  I agree, chefhound
                                  The every first episode, my partner was sayng I should try out next time, but - hell I wouldnt have made it past that onion chopping challenge!

                                  It made more sense when I heard they do get a recipe and a demo, but i still would never be able to think on my feet as quickly as they do, nor would I be able to stand the pressure.

                                  I'm pretty sure, I would never have been able to recreate that venison dish from last night.

                                  Soooo sad to see Ben Starr go. I wasnt crazy about him at first, but he absolutely grew on me....you could tell the judges really liked him as well.
                                  I was really tickled when Ramsay kissed him on the cheek - it was very genuine and sweet!

                                  1. re: NellyNel

                                    Ben needs a travel/cooking show!

                                    1. re: C70

                                      I would love to see more of Ben. A traveling cooking show with him would be amazing. He's just so a lovable, determined, and thoughtful person. I hope this is a launching off point for him.

                                    2. re: NellyNel

                                      Loved Ben. He took some getting used to, but he is so real and enthusiastic without an arrogant or nasty bone in his body. I would love to be his friend (and eating/cooking companion).

                                          1. re: christy1122

                                            With Ben gone I'll be hating myself a little more when I tune in next week to see what happens.


                                  2. re: beetlebug

                                    I loved watching GR scale and fillet the salmon...while wearing a suit!

                                    I wanted Ben to win. My bets are on Jennifer, too, though maybe Suzy. But, with their constant promoting of their knives, their pans, their classes...etc. throughout the show, you can better believe they want someone whose cookbook will sell to win. I don't think Christian can win. If if were going to win, they wouldn't edit him to be such a jerk. "They expect great things of me because I am great."


                                    Ben's a food writer. Is that code for a blogger? I'm curious if it's possible to start following his work.


                                    1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                      I think Ben is a travel writer, not a food writer.

                                      From his Facebook Page:

                                      "Hi, there! My name is Ben Starr. I'm a 33yo travel writer from Lewisville, Texas, which is a suburb of Dallas. I've tromped across all 7 continents, searching for the best and most unique foods, and learning to cook in the home kitchens of the world. I am passionate about local, seasonal foods and the Slow Food movement. I am an avid home brewer, each year producing around 100 gallons of the best beer, cider, and wine you've ever tasted! I have a huge organic garden and support the amendment of local ordinances to permit urban poultry. (My local city government took away my backyard flock of free-range chickens. Boo!)"

                                      1. re: chicgail

                                        You're right, thank you for that. Still, where has he been published so we can follow him if we want. (I'm not on facebook). Maybe doesn't have a permanent gig, just freelance stuff?

                                        He is such a gentle soul.


                                        1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                          Travel writing tends to be a freelance gig. Food writing, too, except for critics.

                                          1. re: piccola

                                            Even freelance writers typically provide links to their clips...it looks like he's actually an employee of a travel agency, who desires to be a travel writer.


                                            1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                              Oh for sure. I didn't look at his website, was just responding to the is-he-or-isn't-he-freelance aspect.

                                          1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                            Thanks so much for the link, TDQ.

                                            I found his blog post titled "A Post-Masterchef Perspective" interesting: http://benstarr.com/index.php?option=...

                                            1. re: Cheeryvisage

                                              He's a first-rate writer and a really inspiring human being.

                                              1. re: Cheeryvisage

                                                That was a great read, thanks for linking it.

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