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Looking for suggestions for a spot in the EV for first date drinks on a weeknight that will allow for seating and conversation at a reasonable level. Thoughts?

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  1. Two suggestions, both on the geo cusp, but good. First, Otto (www.ottopizzeria.com) on lower Fifth Avenue. Can get very busy (and loud), but a good, "safe" place for drinks. Lots of postings here for the rest. A lot newer, and a bit more edgy, would be L'oubli, Suffolk and Houston, (I know, it's not in the EV, but what's a street amounst Hounds) www.loubligouretbar.com). Great small plates and drinks; bartender/owner/chef is very engaging, helpful and expert in all the makings of the food/drinks. Quiet early; blasting later ('till 0400).
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    Otto
    1 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10003

    L'Oubli
    188 Suffolk St, New York, NY 10002

    1. Angelshare on 9th and 3rd is always a good bet.

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      Angel's Share
      8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

      1. I guess it depends on what kind of drinks you want, whether you want food as well, and when you're going.

        If you're not going to be going out late, if you want beer and don't plan on food, d.b.a. has a great beer list and a really nice garden in the back which rarely gets loud before the end of the night. Burp Castle has very good Belgian beer, and never gets loud. The reason it never gets loud is that the bartenders "shhhh" the whole bar when conversation rises above a certain level. So you can decide if you want that.

        The fancy cocktail bars of the world are usually good for a place to get a drink and not have too much noise, since they carefully limit the number of people seated. If you want cocktails and you want to be all cool going to a hidden bar, both Angel's Share and PDT have excellent cocktails and hidden entrances, and shouldn't be too hard to get seating at for two early in the evening (before 8). PDT also has delicious hot dogs. (If you haven't been to either, a web search will explain how to get in to both places.) Death and Co. has a normal entrance, and also has pretty good food and top-notch cocktails.

        For restaurant bars to get a small plate and a good drink, I like Back Forty a lot - it's a welcoming space, not too loud, and the food is really fabulous. The bar at Redhead could work too. If it's a nice night, the outdoor tables at Mermaid Inn could be an option - and if you're going early, the happy hour specials at Mermaid Inn ($1 oysters, cheap bar snacks, cheap(er) drinks until 7 pm) are a favorite of mine.

        For wine, i think Terroir gets way too loud and crowded for a first date, but a little bit into the LES Jadis would be a good option.

        good luck!

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        Mermaid Inn
        96 2nd Avenue, New York, NY 10003

        Back Forty
        190 Avenue B, New York, NY 10009

        Jadis
        42 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

        Angel's Share
        8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

        Please Don't Tell
        113 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10009

        Terroir
        413 E 12th St, New York, NY 10009

        d.b.a.
        41 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

        Burp Castle
        41 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

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        1. re: DivGuy

          PDT is a possibility if you don't mind having your date at the bar. They have 2 tables for 2, which are usually reservations only (they take them at 3pm, day of). Most other parties of two end up at the bar.

          1. re: DivGuy

            To answer your questions, 8pm-ish on Monday night, food isn't necessary, would prefer cocktails and/or wine over beer.

            Had thought about Angel's Share or PDT but don't have a feel for how busy they'll be at this time? Would prefer to not have to wait.

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            Angel's Share
            8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

            1. re: DivGuy

              The Burp Castle sshh'ing doesn't always work, and it's more of a friend place. Downstairs at Jimmy's is a lot more date like.

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              Burp Castle
              41 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

            2. fwiw, personally i've scratched Angel's Share off my list of places to go...i used to like it, but i went there recently and the service was awful and unprofessional, and the crowd kind of cheesey...in my book, it's over...

              i also think that, unless you've had a very romantic preamble to this first date, Angel's Share would be a bit too cozy for a first drinks date, at least for the first stop of the evening (later on, after having had drinks elsewhere, maybe)...

              Not sure where else to recommend besides the places mentioned above...how nice vs. divey would you like the place to be?...(i.e. there are some places like Rue B, that might work)...

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              Angel's Share
              8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

              Rue B
              188 Avenue B, New York, NY 10009

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              1. re: Simon

                Your hesitation on Angel's Share's atmosphere was also mine. Doesn't have to be super high-end but don't want a dive bar. A friend had recommended Elsa - not sure if anyone's been?

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                Angel's Share
                8 Stuyvesant St, New York, NY 10003

                Elsa
                217 E 3rd St, New York, NY 10009

                1. re: insatiable_one

                  Elsa is nice, but a little remote. It can get very loud, and crowded, and attracts more groups than dates on the crowded nights.

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                  Elsa
                  217 E 3rd St, New York, NY 10009

              2. The Beagle has pretty terrific cocktails (and pretty tasty food).

                162 Ave A
                (212) 228-6900
                www.thebeaglenyc.com

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                The Beagle
                162 Avenue A, New York, NY 10009

                1. I was at Bahr Che at Astor place and I though it would make a great first date spot, if because no one knows about it. It is a quiet wine bar. Not East Village but I Ithink the bar behind North Square at the Washington Square Hotel is a great firth date spot (where I went with my husband) too.

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                  North Square
                  103 Waverly Place, New York, NY 10011

                  Bahr Che
                  26 Astor Pl, New York, NY 10003

                  1. Ended up at the Immigrant, a little wine bar on 9th Street as they advertised live music that evening. Was low-key and cozy and the music was enjoyable while remaining unobstrusive. Wine list was serviceable.

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                    The Immigrant
                    341 E 9th St, New York, NY 10003