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macaronette Aug 3, 2011 07:39 AM

5 days in NYC coming up. Review our eating itinerary?

My husband and I live in Seattle but adore NYC and make a point to go once a year. We'll be there 9/1-9/5. I'm putting more of a focus this year on eating at great restaurants. Last year we only made one dinner reservation (Little Owl) and winged it the other nights. Here's what I've got so far:

Thursday
Dinner at Club A Steakhouse (got a LivingSocial deal, and the Yelp reviews were decent)

Friday
Breakfast at Balthazar
Dinner at Craftbar

Saturday
Lunch at Haru Sushi
Dinner at Via Della Pace

Sunday
Brunch at Jane
Lunch at Union Square Cafe
Dinner at...?

We'd love to have a "very NYC" dinner on Sunday night. Any suggestions? Also, yay or nay on Craftbar? We haven't made that reservation yet, so would be open to other, better suggestions.

Thanks!

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Via Della Pace
48 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

Club A Steakhouse
240 East 58th Street, New York, NY 10022

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    preciouskimmy Aug 6, 2011 11:48 AM

    Dinner: Try DaNico on Mulberry St. in Little Italy or The Oyster Bar in Grand Central Station--you won't be disappointed. Neither are trendy spots but more landmark restaurant with great food and history.
    danicoristorante.com
    oysterbarny.com

    Good Luck!

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    Grand Central Oyster Bar
    89 E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017

    Da Nico
    164 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10013

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      Sandhya Aug 6, 2011 03:31 PM

      I totally concur in the recommendation of the Oyster Bar -- also has a nice list of wines by the glass.

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        preciouskimmy Aug 7, 2011 08:35 AM

        If you go, don't forget to go to the whispering place at the arches, look for the uncleaned tile on the ceiling and the hole in the ceiling where a rocket was put through for display in the 1960's!

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      macaronette Aug 5, 2011 07:13 AM

      Well, things feel a lot more real now that we've been able to actually make reservations. Being limited to exactly 30 days out is tough for a planner! Here's what we believe to be our final itinerary, although we know how things change:

      Thursday
      Dinner at Club A

      Friday
      Breakfast at Balthazar
      Lunch at Union Square Cafe
      Dinner at Craft

      Saturday
      Brunch at The Little Owl (perhaps not THE BEST brunch in the city, but holds emotional significance for us)
      Open lunch wherever we might find ourselves
      Dinner at Babbo

      Sunday
      Brunch at Minetta Tavern
      Pizza lunch in East Village
      Dinner at Apiary

      Monday
      Bagel Breakfast
      Lunch at Katz before heading to the airport

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      Babbo
      110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

      Minetta Tavern
      113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

      Little Owl
      90 Bedford Street, New York, NY 10014

      Balthazar
      80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

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      1. re: macaronette
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        Sandhya Aug 5, 2011 07:27 AM

        For one of your lunches, I would suggest either Zabb Elee (East Village, totally fabulous Thai food) or Legend (Chelsea, amazing Sichuan). I heartily second Kathryn's endorsement of Russ & Daughters (try the German rollmop) and Motorino in the East Village. Also, if you are interested in wine bars, you might try Terroir or Ballaro in the East Village, both of which have good happy hour specials (B's lasts until 8 pm on Sundays).

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        Russ & Daughters
        179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

        Ballaro
        77 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

        Terroir
        413 E 12th St, New York, NY 10009

        Motorino
        349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

        Legend
        88 7th Ave, New York, NY 10011

        Zabb Elee
        75 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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          Simon Aug 5, 2011 08:05 AM

          -- love Zaab-Elee

          -- re: Legend, it can be amazing, but all depends on which chef is in the kitchen...there have been a couple recent threads that echo my experiences there: wonderful best-Sichuan-in-town meals one day, then truly wretched food the next...i asked about it when there and was told it was a different chef's workday...for someone coming in from out of town, Grand Sichuan on 9th Ave/24th St might be a safer bet these days...

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          Grand Sichuan
          229 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

          Legend
          88 7th Ave, New York, NY 10011

          Zabb Elee
          75 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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        mahalan Aug 4, 2011 06:07 AM

        I'd recommend dinner at Anissa. One of my favorite NYC restaurants. Definitely get the soup dumplings.

        If you're downtown during a weekday afternoon, there's a storefront pizza place on the corner of Nassau and Maiden Lane that makes my favorite pizza - Friendly Gourmet Pizza. It doesn't look like much but it blows the more famous places in the city away.

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        Annisa
        13 Barrow Street, New York, NY 10014

        Friendly Pizza
        59 Nassau St, New York, NY 10038

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          macaronette Aug 3, 2011 02:09 PM

          Thanks for all of the replies so far! I've adjusted the itinerary to look like this:

          Thursday
          Dinner at Club A

          Friday
          Breakfast at Balthazar
          Lunch at Union Square Cafe
          Dinner at Craft

          Saturday
          Unsure about breakfast
          Unsure about lunch
          Dinner at Apiary

          Sunday
          Brunch at Minetta Tavern
          Pizza lunch in East Village
          Unsure about dinner

          Monday
          Unsure about breakfast
          Lunch at Katz before heading to the airport

          Any help with the "unsures"?? Looking at the itinerary, we don't have a fabulous Italian meal, yet...

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          Minetta Tavern
          113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

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          1. re: macaronette
            k
            kathryn Aug 3, 2011 02:13 PM

            Saturday
            Unsure about breakfast -- I'd make a reservation at Locanda Verde
            Unsure about lunch -- you need some Russ & Daughters in there!
            Dinner at Apiary

            Sunday
            Brunch at Minetta Tavern
            Pizza lunch in East Village -- Motorino, I hope!
            Unsure about dinner -- good place to put in Scarpetta

            Monday
            Unsure about breakfast -- I'd do the Breslin
            Lunch at Katz before heading to the airport

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            Russ & Daughters
            179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

            Minetta Tavern
            113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

            Scarpetta
            355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

            Apiary
            60 3rd Avenue, New York, NY 10003

            Locanda Verde
            377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

            The Breslin
            20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

            Motorino
            349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

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              macaronette Aug 3, 2011 02:25 PM

              In looking at breakfast menus I'm noticing that not many (or any, so far!) places offer waffles. Is there a surefire place to go to get a good waffle for breakfast?

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                k
                kathryn Aug 3, 2011 02:29 PM

                Look into Petite Abeille, Wafels & Dinges (truck), and Amy Ruth's (fried chicken and waffles).

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                Amy Ruth's
                113 W 116th St, New York, NY 10026

                Petite Abeille
                466 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

                Wafels & Dinges
                New York, New York, NY 10001

                1. re: kathryn
                  loratliff Aug 3, 2011 08:47 PM

                  Second Wafels & Dinges. Don't waste an otherwise good breakfast/brunch on waffles—track down the Wafels & Dinges truck and have a waffle for dessert! Theirs are the best I've ever had.

                  If you don't do Scarpetta for your Italian meal, you should, as someone else said, consider Babbo very heavily.

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                  Babbo
                  110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                  Scarpetta
                  355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

                  Wafels & Dinges
                  New York, New York, NY 10001

                2. re: macaronette
                  k
                  kathryn Aug 3, 2011 09:30 PM

                  If you want to eat at Babbo you must call tomorrow at 10am Eastern. For Scarpetta, it's a bit easier to book. I think their policy is 30 days in advance, but they won't book up as insanely fast as Babbo.

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                  Babbo
                  110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                  Scarpetta
                  355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

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                    macaronette Aug 3, 2011 09:50 PM

                    I was told I wouldn't like Babbo, as I'm not into organ meats, veal, rabbit, duck, squid ink, etc. Looking at their menu, it didn't appear that they had much straightforward food that wasn't a little more on the "haute" side of things. Am I right?

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                    Babbo
                    110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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                      Simon Aug 3, 2011 11:04 PM

                      Scarpetta is better anyway, haute or not...also, consider Dell'Anima: i ate there tonight and it makes any Batali restaurant seem like an Epcot Center cafeteria by comparison...

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                      Dell'Anima
                      38 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10003

                      Scarpetta
                      355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

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                        kathryn Aug 4, 2011 05:54 AM

                        Some of dell'anima's best dishes though are the sweetbreads, bone marrow, and octopus. It would be a shame to miss out on those....

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                          loratliff Aug 4, 2011 06:31 AM

                          True, but I've liked a lot of the simpler dishes a dell'anima too.

                          Has anyone been to Spasso? I've walked by a million times and the menu sounds nice, but have yet to eat there.

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                          Spasso
                          551 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

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                        k
                        kathryn Aug 4, 2011 05:56 AM

                        IIRC, you will find organ meat, duck, rabbit, etc on almost every higher end Italian menu here these days.

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                    tlubow Aug 4, 2011 01:33 PM

                    I don't think Minetta Tavern opens until 11:00 so keep that in mind when you think about lunch and dinner.

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                    Minetta Tavern
                    113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

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                    r
                    RGR Aug 4, 2011 12:20 AM

                    Re: Saturday lunch. I adore Russ & Daughters. However, it is strictly take-out. If you would prefer a sit-down restaurant, you might want to consider Tocqueville. The cuisine is superb, and the $24.07 3-course prix-fixe is a steal for food of such high caliber. Service is friendly and professional, and the elegant dining room is one of the most beautiful in the city. You can dress casually.

                    Tocqueville photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157625626586975/

                    While I agree that Scarpette is a good choice, I highly recomend Ciano. We've had superb meals there, the most recent this past Sunday. The Chicken for Two Baked in a Clay Pot was astonishingly delicious. Attentive service and wonderful ambiance.

                    Ciano photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157627332687474/

                    For breakfast on Monday, I highly recommend Maialino. The menu includes both traditional breakfast items and Italian fare, which we prefer. My favorite pastry is the Brioche Carmellato, Fabulous!

                    Maialino photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157626121435799/

                    http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                    Tocqueville
                    1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

                    Scarpetta
                    355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

                    Ciano
                    45 E 22nd St, New York, NY 10010

                    Maialino
                    2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

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                      m
                      macaronette Aug 4, 2011 07:50 AM

                      We got a reservation at Babbo and are going to give it a shot. Can't believe what a pain in the arse it was to get that stupid 6:15pm reservation. Hope it's worth it!

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                      Babbo
                      110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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                        r
                        RGR Aug 4, 2011 07:59 AM

                        Regulars on this board know that I refuse to do the "telephone tango." Ergo, no Babbo for me.

                        http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                        1. re: macaronette
                          k
                          kathryn Aug 4, 2011 10:19 AM

                          If you're up for it, try the grilled octopus antipasti. Also consider the goat cheese tortellini, the bucatini, the orecchiette for your pasta. Their pork chop is excellent as are the lamb chops.

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                        j.jessica.lee Aug 4, 2011 10:25 AM

                        I know you already got a reservation for Babbo, but in case of future visits, I have to say I adore the pasta at Maialino for their absolute wizardry with simplicity. I also love Scarpetta. Enjoy your trip!

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                        Babbo
                        110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                        Scarpetta
                        355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

                        Maialino
                        2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

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                        Simon Aug 3, 2011 01:54 PM

                        i agree with a lot of what was said above:

                        -- skip VDP and Haru...both would be a waste of a meal...

                        -- Keens is great and wonderful NYC experience...i especially like the pub room in between the bar and main dining room...

                        -- Ushi Wakamaru is a great intro to traditional sushi...sit at the bar, and ask for a by-the-piece omakase...prices will vary depending on how much you eat: when i went there last Saturday, the two of us had sashimi, followed by soup, followed by by-the-piece nigiri, plus a fried soft shell crab, 2 drinks each...total was about 200 plus tip...it was my friend's first "real" sushi meal, and she loved it...

                        -- consider a meal at Scarpetta, especially at the bar...

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                        Scarpetta
                        355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

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                          kathryn Aug 3, 2011 10:12 AM

                          You appear to be missing smoked salmon/bagels, pizza, pastrami on rye (mustard only, no mayo!), and you can do better on your brunch choices. Also, on the weekends, many places will be serving brunch and dinner on both Saturday and Sunday, not just Sunday.

                          I would do:

                          Thursday
                          Dinner at Keens - very New York-y atmosphere, on OpenTable

                          Friday
                          Breakfast at Clinton St Baking Co. -- amazing pancakes with melted maple butter, no reservations taken but the weekday wait isn't too bad
                          Lunch at Motorino EV -- you need some pizza in your itinerary, no reservations but Friday shouldn't be too bar
                          Dinner at Craft - Craft proper, not Craftbar, plus Craft is on OpenTable

                          Saturday
                          Brunch at Russ & Daughters and Katz's Deli -- order a bagel sandwich to share, and then order a pastrami sandwich to share
                          Dinner at Ushiwakamaru -- order a nigiri set or two, and some maki rolls, call to reserve

                          Sunday
                          Brunch at Minetta Tavern -- very New York-y atmosphere, great burger, French Toast, egg dishes, call to reserve
                          Dinner at Babbo -- call TOMORROW (August 4th) at 10am to make a reservation for Sunday, Sept 4th

                          Hard to find a place that does a good sushi lunch especially on the weekends.

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                          Russ & Daughters
                          179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                          Katz's Delicatessen
                          205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                          Babbo
                          110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                          Keens
                          72 West 36th St., New York, NY 10018

                          Minetta Tavern
                          113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

                          Ushiwakamaru
                          136 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

                          Craft
                          43 E. 19th St., New York, NY 10003

                          Clinton Street Baking Co.
                          4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

                          Motorino
                          349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                          1. chowdom Aug 3, 2011 08:55 AM

                            Macaronette here is another positive review of Club A Steakhouse http://www.thelunchbelle.com/nycentri...

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                            Club A Steakhouse
                            240 East 58th Street, New York, NY 10022

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                            1. re: chowdom
                              Cheeryvisage Aug 3, 2011 09:25 AM

                              I'd been to Club A Steakhouse during the Restaurant Week extension last year. It was pretty good. I liked the ambiance and we enjoyed our meal.

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                              Club A Steakhouse
                              240 East 58th Street, New York, NY 10022

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                              City Kid Aug 3, 2011 08:43 AM

                              How did you come up with Via Della Pace? I certainly would not waste a dinner there. I have found it mediocre at best and there are far better Italians in the East Village. I like I Copi for good, reasonable Italian in that neighborhood.

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                              I Coppi
                              432 E 9th St, New York, NY 10009

                              Via Della Pace
                              48 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

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                                RGR Aug 3, 2011 08:55 AM

                                As I said above, I've never even heard of VDP. While the food at I Coppi was o.k. the last time we ate there, which was quite some time ago, unless the Italian must be in the E. Village, there are far better options elsewhere.

                                http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                                  c
                                  City Kid Aug 3, 2011 09:16 AM

                                  In this case, RGR, I think there is a reason VDP flies under the radar. You are probably right about better Italians than I Copi elsewhere, but I thought it answered the request for classics well prepared. I had a lovely dinner there a couple of months back.

                              2. MVNYC Aug 3, 2011 08:28 AM

                                Do you enjoy any of the higher end sushi restaurants in Seattle? If so you will probably be disappointed in Haru which isn't very good. Are you looking for a sushi specific lunch on Saturday or are you just going to be near a Haru?

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                                Haru
                                205 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

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                                  m
                                  macaronette Aug 3, 2011 08:29 AM

                                  I heard from a friend who's a former NY'er that she loved Haru. We've never actually had sushi before and she said that was the place to go for our inaugural experience! Is there someplace else you'd recommend?

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                                    j.jessica.lee Aug 3, 2011 09:29 AM

                                    Hi macaronette!

                                    If that is the case, I have other recs for you. However, I also want to know what kind of sushi experience you are looking for. Do you like the fusion roll, tempura, spicy roll kind of sushi place? Or are you looking for a traditional nigiri, focus on fish, classic kind of place? And what sort of budget are you looking for for lunch? Which neighborhood were you planning to be at that point?

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                                      small h Aug 3, 2011 12:57 PM

                                      I've only eaten at Haru once, and it was lousy and overpriced. I also have friends who love it, but these are not the friends I ask for dining advice.

                                      Blue Ribbon Sushi might be good for a first-timer, since they have a very broad menu. I'm a big fan of Takahachi also - I think for the price (not very high), it's pretty solid. Note that only the Tribeca location serves lunch. Both Blue Ribbon and Takahachi have plenty of non-raw-fish items, so if you decide you hate raw fish, you'll still have a lot of options.

                                      http://www.blueribbonrestaurants.com/rests_sushi_man_main.htm
                                      http://www.takahachi.net/

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                                      Blue Ribbon Sushi
                                      119 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

                                      Takahachi
                                      145 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

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                                        uwsister Aug 4, 2011 07:30 PM

                                        Second Blue Ribbon for a first-timer.

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                                        gutsofsteel Aug 3, 2011 09:10 PM

                                        Do NOT go to Haru.

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                                          j.jessica.lee Aug 4, 2011 10:21 AM

                                          Yes, please do not go to Haru. I would feel horribly if you spent a meal there during your trip! If for lunch, Yasuda has a nice prix fixe set at lunch. Kathryn also recommended 15 East's lunch deal on another thread and I agree. For dinner, Kanoyama is great and has a wider selection of cooked dishes and also more variety in sushi snd rolls so there is something for everyone. Ushiwakamaru - I have heard good things, never been. This place is much more strictly sushi and sashimi, FYI.

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                                          15 East
                                          15 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

                                          Sushi Yasuda
                                          204 E 43rd St, New York, NY 10017

                                          Kanoyama
                                          175 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                      3. r
                                        RGR Aug 3, 2011 08:12 AM

                                        I've never heard of Club A Steakhouse. Since you are looking for a "very NYC" dinner on Sunday, I'd drop Club A on Thursday and have dinner at Keens on Sunday. Keens has been in its 36th St. since 1885, Thus, in addition to delicious steaks, chops (including the signature mutton chop), sides, etc., there is the unmatchable charm of the Old NY ambiance -- walls filled with authentic American memorabilia and old clay smoking pipes suspended from all the ceilings + pipes belonging to famous people dating as far back as the 19th century displayed in cases in the vestibule.

                                        Keens photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157623279345424/

                                        Having both brunch and lunch on Sunday seems rather odd to me.

                                        I've never heard of Via Della Pace. With so many terrific Italian restaurants to choose from, why this one?

                                        http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                                        Keens
                                        72 West 36th St., New York, NY 10018

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                                          macaronette Aug 3, 2011 08:23 AM

                                          Great point about the brunch/lunch thing. Although the brunch will be early, I'll move the lunch to another day.

                                          Thanks!

                                          1. re: macaronette
                                            r
                                            RGR Aug 3, 2011 08:49 AM

                                            Looking at your schedule, you could do lunch at USC on Friday. During the past few months, we've had two superb lunches there.

                                            USC photos here; http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157626776011615/

                                            and here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157626286667925/

                                            http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                                            Union Square Cafe
                                            21 East 16th St., New York, NY 10003

                                        2. c
                                          ChemWork Aug 3, 2011 08:06 AM

                                          macaronette

                                          It will help the regulars on this board if you give some sort of idea of type of cuisine/budget/location you are looking for. I think "very NYC dinner" is open to too many different interpretations.

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                                          1. re: ChemWork
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                                            macaronette Aug 3, 2011 08:09 AM

                                            Chem - Sorry about that. I thought seeing the places we've already decided on might help inform on our tastes.

                                            We love good food, but don't consider ourselves "foodies". We try to stay away from the more eclectic and stick to classics done really, really well. Simple is good. We don't mind paying for a good meal, up to $250 total including a few glasses of wine.

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