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Worldwide Diner Aug 2, 2011 07:53 AM

Tricky twist at the end of the episode. Cocky Christian serves up his first batch of cheese souffle without even tasting one. They then announced that Jennifer (who needs to stop cursing), Derrick (the piercing guy), and Adrien (hispanic dude) are all safe. That normally would mean Christian is gone, and they show Jennifer being all smug. Then the twist - everyone's safe!

Not that it mattered, but Christian took responsibility for losing the team challenge and the pressure cook-off could've been just him and one other person.

I understand why Jennifer resents Christian but to think that she's a better cook is ludicrous.

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    shell22 Aug 2, 2011 08:52 AM

    Do they get to see a recipe? I saw them measuring and weighing and I am thinking to myself, there is no way all 4 of them have a cheese souffle recipe memorized....especially if you have never made one!

    The episode was a copout IMO. All of sudden they have gone soft and they love everybody and everybody is an expert souffle cook?? This show is so full of crap, I don't know why I continue to watch. LOL.

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      DavidPalmer Aug 2, 2011 09:36 AM

      I've been asking myself that same question all along. But last night I realized it's partly because of Jennifer. At first I thought she was just a weepy bore, but watching her go off on Christian last night raised her up several notches in my book. The rack doesn't hurt either.

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        NellyNel Aug 2, 2011 09:44 AM

        I asked the same question on a previous thread, and someone replied that they do get a little "how to" demonstration, before they start to cook, which is obviously edited out.

        I thought that Christian didnt cook his roux = which should have (apparently) made the souflee taste horrible - anyone know what happened there?

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          FoodMan88 Aug 2, 2011 11:31 AM

          Remember that "didn't cook his roux" comment was from the peanut gallery, and could have easily been rebutted with a "yes, he did" that wasn't aired. But then they wouldn't have the typical red herrings that make up most of the dialogue.

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            NellyNel Aug 2, 2011 01:54 PM

            yup, you're right....

            I have never tried a souffle, so I don't know, but they have always had a bit of a reputation for being difficult....
            but not Masterchef difficult!

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          NYCkaren Aug 2, 2011 11:17 AM

          I was wonding about the recipes too.
          Meanwhile I am still scratching my head over the premise that it's so incredibly difficult to make a cheese souffle. I'm no master chef but I've made plenty of cheese souffles over the years _ with a recipe _ and they've always turned out fine.

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          DGresh Aug 2, 2011 02:14 PM

          They missed an episode last week when the president had his speech, right? Has that pushed back the whole thing by one episode?

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            smartie Aug 2, 2011 02:47 PM

            yes DG, only one episode last week.

          2. LindaWhit Aug 2, 2011 05:55 PM

            I just watched last night's ep, and the *only* time Christian took responsibility was in front of the judges when he put himself and Jennifer up.

            However, he didn't take responsibility for the issues with the caramel. Christian said Jennifer tried to "throw him under the bus" for the caramel. No, she just told the truth - Christian eff'd up the caramel, not Jennifer - and yet he blames her. He *is* a horrible leader - Jennifer calling him out was perfect. :-)

            I thought it was kind of a cop-out that everyone stayed. I was floored that Christian was last up there; I do think he's good - but I also think he's beyond cocksure of himself, and that might just trip him up eventually.

            1. C. Hamster Aug 2, 2011 06:21 PM

              If I could physically flush Christian ( not aptly named) down my toilet, I would. And relish it.

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                smartie Aug 2, 2011 06:46 PM

                anyone else lose tonight's episode part way through? Neither live nor DVR was working after the mystery box challenge started.

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                  C. Hamster Aug 3, 2011 07:15 AM

                  Yes.

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                  Worldwide Diner Aug 3, 2011 06:47 AM

                  Another fabulous episode last night. Two go home (Christine - single mom from bumf**k FL and Derrick - face piercing guy) for grilled cheese and tomato soup. I kind of wonder what is the deal with Christian's seasoning. I think the winner's going to be Adrien, Ben or Tracy - all because they don't get the negative editing. Suzi is shown talking alot of trash about others but can't back it up. Christian is way too cocky and has basically squandered all the good will (if any) he had with the judges. Ben could've gone home with his crappy soup but I think he got a pass because he's been good in the past and he's generally a good guy. Jennifer is inconsistent and is seen to be hateful of Christian. If last season is an indication, the winner will be a dark horse who can represent the "brand" well. Notice they give away lots of "Master Chef" products.

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                    LindaWhit Aug 3, 2011 08:04 AM

                    Every. Single. Time. I say "ugh!" at Graham Eliot's pitching of the MC pots and pans.

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                      chowser Aug 3, 2011 01:32 PM

                      A perfect sear on the steaks, and with a nonstick skillet, too! I said any of those steaks had better get GREAT reviews from the judges or it speaks badly for their pans.

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                        LindaWhit Aug 3, 2011 01:35 PM

                        Good point! Hadn't thought of that, chowser. But then again, they'd blame the user, not the usee.

                  2. JuniorBalloon Aug 3, 2011 09:02 AM

                    I hate this show. I hate most of the contestants. I hate the product placement. I can't stop watching. I hate myself.

                    jb

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                      shell22 Aug 3, 2011 09:14 AM

                      OMG me too....

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                        LindaWhit Aug 3, 2011 09:15 AM

                        You hate JuniorBalloon? What did he ever do to YOU? ;-)

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                          JuniorBalloon Aug 3, 2011 09:20 AM

                          Ha ha! Everybody should. I'm a very bad man.

                          jb

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                            shell22 Aug 3, 2011 09:26 AM

                            Sometimes it's good to be bad ;-)
                            I am beginning to think self-loathing is a common personality trait of viewers of MC.

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                            NellyNel Aug 3, 2011 10:26 AM

                            LOL, good one Linda!

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                          donovt Aug 3, 2011 09:31 AM

                          I couldn't watch anymore after a few episodes. But I feel the same way about hells kitchen. Especially the hating myself part.

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                            chris2269 Aug 3, 2011 10:10 AM

                            Beverley Skeggs, a professor of sociology at Goldsmith's, University of London who has conducted studies into the representation of class and gender on reality television, believes it is, at root, a question of human connection. "I think the community feeling is part of the appeal of this kind of show," she says. "It's expressing a form of social value – people connect to other people who have the same values, who behave in the same way. We do get swept up in it, wanting to be behind somebody, wanting them to do well. That's why producers will milk the hard-luck story – those little snippets of someone working in Tesco – because all that intertextual stuff enables us to feel we have this sort of connection."

                            Think you can apply that negativly as well.

                            Good article

                            http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radi...

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                              chowser Aug 3, 2011 01:31 PM

                              I read something that said it's a way to feel superior to others without ever having to get up off the couch.

                              I think I enjoy these discussions more than I do watching the show. The only other reality type show I watch is So You Think You Can Dance because the dancing is amazing. But, for ones like these, I don't watch if I can't analyze/discuss.

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                                chris2269 Aug 3, 2011 01:40 PM

                                I watch "So you think you can dance" all countries versions; only till the auditions are over. I do not think it's fair for someone who has been an Interpretive dancer and training for 20 years to do hip hop or ball room.

                                Interpretive dance is one of the most expressive of the arts...IMO

                                Agree as well that talking about it is more fun than the actual show ..at least with Hells Kitchen and American Master Chef

                                I have watched every almost every version of MC ...All seasons of NZ, AU, UK, junior and adult. The main difference seems to be an assault against the contestants in the American Versions. BTW I put this on FOX and not the Country.

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                                  kpaxonite Aug 3, 2011 03:49 PM

                                  I put it on the country (audience) not the network. I would find it extremely hard to believe that various versions of the shows weren't shown to focus groups. Americans like action and yelling and it makes for in-your-eyes commercials.

                                  I do agree other MC are far superior especially the AU version. They are more real and not (perhaps meant) to be comedies.

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                                    rockycat Aug 4, 2011 07:59 AM

                                    I read a description of the Israeli version of Master Chef last night. Apparently Gordon Ramsay tests well with Israeli audiences but for the home-grown version, the producers decided to make the judges warmer and more supportive. It seems that Israelis like watching Gordo rip into Americans and Brits but they don't want to see that happening to their compatriots.

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                                      JudgeMaven Aug 6, 2011 05:08 AM

                                      Really? The feeling I get on many Israeli chat forums is that the judges are too soft and should be more "Israeli" like Ramsay. There are four judges and all of them are pretty much them same in terms of behavior (though one is a little weird) - there is no good, bad, and in-the-middle judge like on MC USA.

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                                        rockycat Aug 6, 2011 05:17 AM

                                        What I was reading was an analytical article. I don't have satellite so I can watch the show, although I'd love to. Do you have a link for any of these forums? It sounds like it would be fun to read them.

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                                          JudgeMaven Aug 7, 2011 10:14 AM

                                          Can you read Hebrew? All the boards I read are in Hebrew. You can also watch full episodes online @ http://www.mako.co.il/food-masterchef... . The auditions just ended (six weeks) and this week they will cut from 26 to 14. The initial cut from 50 to 26 via mystery box and dessert challenges was not shown (and many people are NOT happy).

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                                            rockycat Aug 7, 2011 02:39 PM

                                            Yes, I can read Hebrew, My problem tends to be that with my crummy eyesight, I can't SEE Hebrew on most screens. I don't have that problem with English, though. I have no idea why.

                                            Thanks for the link to the shows. I will definitely be watching them.

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