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Fitting a 36" stove in 30" space.

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justicenow Jul 23, 2011 10:09 AM

We would really like to switch to a 36" gas stove. We have gas 30" now, kitchen is 3 years old.
The stainless hood/microwave over the stove is also 30", a very typical installation with cabinets built in allowing a 30" space.
What I want to know is can it be done with out huge expense? Has anyone done just the "bottom" work of cutting out a larger opening and leaving the existing over head microwave in place?
Cutting three inches from each side on the bottom would make off size cabinet doors that do not match the others. Is there a way to make that look right, so it looks like it was designed to be a 36" opening?

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    Rick Aug 6, 2011 07:48 AM

    My cheap and easy solution to get more stove top space was to buy a portable induction unit. Comes in very handy when we have a lot going on in the kitchen.

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      sunshine842 Aug 8, 2011 05:03 AM

      ..and you can put it away when you're not using it.

      Bravo.

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      Skater2591 Aug 6, 2011 04:58 AM

      If you go with a larger stove YOU WILL HAVE TO ALTER the cabinets that sit next to the stove. That said it will depend on what sits next to the stove and how it is constructed. Contact a professional!

      1. BiscuitBoy Jul 25, 2011 07:56 AM

        similar to pweller, I would modify one side only, however I would do it on the left side...The left has that smaller 3 drawer unit which can be pulled out and replaced by either a narrower 3 drawer unit and trim, or maybe even some type of vertical storage for sheet pans, bottle rack, etc. A few hours of labor and depending on what you drop back into that space, shouldn't be more than $600-700. Having the existing box reconfig'd by a cabinet maker would easily be triple that. To remove the counter top and recut will likely cost as much and more, including any backsplash repair you may have to do. Run a line to an lp or natural gas bottle outside, another 3-4 hundred, depending on placement. Don't be surprised if the finish doesn't quite match, even at only 3yrs, you'll find it's faded a bit from new. And none of this includes addressing the upper cabs and a proper hood. Seems like alot of time and money for not so much gain, IMHO

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          justicenow Jul 25, 2011 08:07 AM

          I do have the gas line already there, as we have a 30" gas unit now. I do, however agree that
          it is much too expensive a change for the final gain.

        2. Passadumkeg Jul 24, 2011 01:45 PM

          Buy a big BBQ center for the back yard. Save money and relax. Turn the cookin' over to hubby!

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            pweller Jul 24, 2011 01:35 PM

            Probably the best way to do this would be to take the extra 6" from the right side only. Leave everything to the left as-is, because that is the bigger side and you have the symmetry of the 3 equal sized drawers on that side. This way, you would at least be limiting the damage to 3 cabinets only, and you would have a much smaller piece of granite to cut down. You may have to move that electrical outlet also. You might see if your original cabinet manufacturer has something that is 6" narrower that you could just swap out, as modifying your existing cabinets would probably be a lot of work.

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              justicenow Jul 23, 2011 02:08 PM

              I am appreciate of the ideas, and also asked a friend about cutting the granite counters. They have to be removed and re-cut and shaped in the fabrication shop. This is a much bigger project than I had thought through.

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                mlou72 Jul 23, 2011 08:43 PM

                Tell me about it; reminds me of when I investigated putting a gas line into the kitchen (oh yes it can be done, but would cost more than the range... and a neighbor with my model house ran it cheaply behind the fridge and cut through cabinets and I'm quite glad they're a couple blocks away!).

                Have you petted all the 30" ranges? You didn't say why you want a larger range... could something like continuous grates solve your problem if you're just having trouble using a big pan or two at once? Would a 5th burner/griddle in the middle do the trick? When I was looking for mine it was hard to find one that I could fit my large pans on without them pushing each other off the burners, but eventually found one that makes up for the size difference with burner placement.

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                  justicenow Jul 24, 2011 12:11 AM

                  I think we have as usable a 30" as possible. The grate system does work very well, but the space does get cramped at times, and we wanted greater BTU burners. I have already added a counter top type portable oven in the garage to expand oven options. That has helped a great deal. My wife thought I was nuts when I ran a water line to our garage fridge for a second ice maker, but we also use that a lot. She did get me the Weber I wanted after I had a natural gas line run out to the patio, so I guess I should just be quiet and happy! ; )

                   
                   
                  1. re: justicenow
                    sunshine842 Jul 24, 2011 01:52 AM

                    that's a really lovely kitchen, well worth having a kitchen designer (and a cabinet maker) come and work with you to make it everything you want it to be.

                    If you had entry-level Home Depot Cabinets and formica worktops, I'd say Hell yeah, go get your jig saw and fit that puppy in there -- but it'd be a crying shame to do do anything to that kitchen in any manner other than The Right Way.

                    (says Ikea Cabinets with Formica Tops Woman)

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                      mikie Jul 24, 2011 05:49 AM

                      Obviously any thing can be changed if you are willing to throw enough money at it. Yes a kitchen designer and cabinet maker can come up with an attractive design and matching cabinets, but from looking at the pictures, it isn't going to be cheap. In theory at least you would have to replace three sets of upper cabinets and two sets of lower cabinets. You would have to replace your hood with a wider model and you would need to remove the counter top to have it professionally resized. It's a nice looking kitchen, I'd hate to spend the money needed to do it right and I wouldn't do it on the cheap and ruin a good kitchen.

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                        lynncameron Jul 24, 2011 07:52 AM

                        For greater BTUs (not more inches!) you might want to look at induction ranges. Here's what I have:

                        http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-...

                  2. JEN10 Jul 23, 2011 01:56 PM

                    In my professional opinion you are in need of a kitchen designer. Someone who can look at the existing layout and determine if there is a practical solution.

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                      mikie Jul 23, 2011 01:52 PM

                      For starters the vent should be 6" wider than the stove top for best results, if you put a 36 under a 30" hood you are actually a foot too narrow with the hood. I know, that's the set up we currently have, only ours is a cooktop. Doesn't work well at all as far as removing heat, steam, grease, etc.

                      Depending on how the cabinet doors are made, you might be able to adjust them to the smaller width with no ill effects, it just depends on how they are made. Or you can have new doors made to the size you need and maintain the same door style. You don't want to just trim the door stiles as that will look odd, you need to shorten the door rails to keep the doors looking right.

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                        escondido123 Jul 23, 2011 12:09 PM

                        I don't think it is a good idea to have a 30" hood above the 30" stove, not enough ventilation plus cabinets above stove a bad mix. We would have loved to go bigger than 30" and we had the room below but would have had to start all over again on top. Good luck with your quest.

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                          lynncameron Jul 23, 2011 11:58 AM

                          This isn't an answer unfortunately. But Ikea has kitchen planner software so maybe you could design your current kitchen and then play around with various options.

                          http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/customer...

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