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Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:01 AM

What the hell? There are two or three per page sometimes. I'm going to have to say good bye until after the elections. What the hell are these ads doing on a food board? Sheesh.

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    beevod RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:05 AM

    Obama loves coconut water.

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      DPGood RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:10 AM

      Where are these ads, please? Citations?

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        justalex RE: DPGood Jul 14, 2011 07:13 AM

        I saw them on the right side of the screen every time I visited this site yesterday. I come here to get away from politics. They are a turn-off,

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          DPGood RE: justalex Jul 14, 2011 07:19 AM

          Apologies. I assigned the OP was referring to threads, or posts in threads. As far as the right side of the screen, this site is owned by CBS which, as I recall, is a for-profit company that sells ads, among other things, and I don't think they sell ads only to Obama, do they?

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            justalex RE: DPGood Jul 14, 2011 07:31 AM

            The OP clearly stated ads. Obviously CBS sells ads to many companies and organizations. As I said, I come here to get away from politics. The ads are a turn-off.

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              CocoaNut RE: DPGood Jul 14, 2011 08:38 AM

              Nevermind that Obama has CBS in his pocket......

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            ospreycove RE: DPGood Jul 14, 2011 07:15 AM

            DP It is on the banner at top of the page; now after seeing it I have lost my appetite for any more visits to Chow Hound!!!!!!!

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            quirkydeb RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:21 AM

            There he is! Just on the right of this thread now!

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              wincountrygirl RE: quirkydeb Jul 14, 2011 08:10 AM

              That is awful. There he is!

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              odkaty RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:25 AM

              Adblock?

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                Rene RE: odkaty Jul 14, 2011 07:50 AM

                It works! Great, thanks so much! And thanks to ALL for the education on internet advertising.

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                  wincountrygirl RE: odkaty Jul 14, 2011 08:15 AM

                  How do you do the adblock?

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                    srsone RE: wincountrygirl Jul 14, 2011 08:18 AM

                    if u use firefox ...its an extension u download then u can block any add or popup that comes up

                    there is a thread about using it under the discussion about the facebook sharing thingy that comes out of the side of the page..

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                      Rene RE: wincountrygirl Jul 14, 2011 08:21 AM

                      google "cnet adblock". There is a download there.

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                        odkaty RE: wincountrygirl Jul 14, 2011 08:21 AM

                        http://adblockplus.org/en/

                        There are also versions/variations for Chrome and Safari.

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                          wincountrygirl RE: odkaty Jul 14, 2011 08:24 AM

                          Thanks all - totally need to get rid of those ads!

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                      sadiefox RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:34 AM

                      So what? It's just an ad. Companies or organizations or even individuals can buy ad space wherever they want to.

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                        Davwud RE: sadiefox Jul 15, 2011 05:55 AM

                        Agreed. I barely notice the ads.

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                        bobcam90 RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:41 AM

                        The ads here aren't always food related. Granted a food company could be attracted to this site but so could many others.

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                        1. Moedelestrie RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:48 AM

                          If you want to get rid of the ads you should get rid of your internet provider I can assure you that here in Canada no American political ads appear on Chowhound. The top of my page has an ad for 50% off in restaurants in Sherbrooke, Silk Beverage recipes, and the local deal of the day. Tour local internet provider is selling the space not Chowhound. I can understand wanting to get away from US politics whenever I see Orin Hatch I get the heaves.

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                            CanadaGirl RE: Moedelestrie Jul 14, 2011 07:56 AM

                            Ditto. I am in Canada too and there are no political ads on my pages.

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                              Windy RE: CanadaGirl Jul 15, 2011 05:12 PM

                              That has more to do with Canadian politicians and groups not placing them than with your internet provider.

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                                CanadaGirl RE: Windy Jul 15, 2011 05:34 PM

                                I didn't mean to imply that Canadian politicians don't put ads up. While we unfortunately have lots of the attack ads that seem to permeate American politics (not saying we are better on that), we are not currently in "election mode" and so there are not currently political ads when I am on the Internet. My point was simply to support previous comments that the ads showing up have to do with your location and are not necessarily because someone at CH wants to support Obama, or any other politician.

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                                  Windy RE: CanadaGirl Jul 15, 2011 05:38 PM

                                  Oh sure. It's a matter of Chowhound/CBS having different ad servers based on location. Which makes sense--advertisers only buy ads in markets they sell in, even online advertisers.

                                  I don't think we're in election mode either, just perpetual fundraising. (I don't acually know--I use ad block and never saw the offending ad.)

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                                    CanadaGirl RE: Windy Jul 15, 2011 05:47 PM

                                    As an outsider looking in, you never seem to leave election mode! We do not have fixed election dates, and while there are problems with that sometimes, IMHO we don't end up with the last half of an elected term seeming like a campaign. If a Canadian Prime Minister had two years left in his/her term, I don't recall ever hearing speculation about the PM's chances of re-election in the next election.

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                          2. srsone RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:59 AM

                            i know ....
                            a left leaning media company (CBS) running ads for the left leaning candidates??

                            i wonder if we'll ever see a Michele Bachmann add???

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                              twyst RE: srsone Jul 14, 2011 08:08 AM

                              If she decides to pay for one we will.

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                                srsone RE: twyst Jul 15, 2011 05:34 AM

                                u dont know much about CBS ...do u?

                                read Bernie Goldberg's book "Bias"

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                                  twyst RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 06:41 AM

                                  Are you suggesting CBS refuses to run political ads for republican candidates? Because if you are, you are wrong.

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                                    srsone RE: twyst Jul 15, 2011 06:44 AM

                                    no i didnt say that....
                                    just saying that CBS leans left......

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                                      thew RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 06:47 AM

                                      but it is irrelevant how they lean (and how they lean is towards whatever is good for a large multinational corporation's profits)

                                      you claimed they wouldnt take an ad from a leading GOP candidate. that is clearly not true.

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                                        Chemicalkinetics RE: thew Jul 15, 2011 06:59 AM

                                        "you claimed they wouldnt take an ad from a leading GOP candidate"

                                        Thew,

                                        No, srsone didn't claim that. It may sound like it to you, but if you objectively dissect words for words, it does not claim that. Srsone's quote:

                                        "a left leaning media company (CBS) running ads for the left leaning candidates??

                                        i wonder if we'll ever see a Michele Bachmann add???"

                                        Both can be interrupted as circumstantial statement. The first statement is obvious. A left leaning candidate launches an ads on a left leaning media... not too different than a left leaning candidate gives his speech to a left leaning crowd. Or finding a polar bear in the north pole. Nothing special.

                                        The second statement can also be read the same way but in reverse: I wonder why a right leaning candidate won't launch his/her campaign ads on the left leaning media? It does not claim the left leaning media rejects the right leaning candidate. It is just an reinforcement of the first statement. It is no different than saying "I wonder when will I see a Bengal tiger in the north pole."

                                        Analogy:

                                        "I know... a polar bear living in the north pole?? I wonder if we will ever see a Bengal tiger in the north pole"

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                                          srsone RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 15, 2011 07:04 AM

                                          and my first statement was more a sarcastic reply to the OP
                                          :-)

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                                            twyst RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 15, 2011 07:26 AM

                                            Actually you didnt address the post he was referring to.

                                            When I said

                                            "If she decides to pay for one we will"

                                            srs replied with

                                            "u dont know much about CBS ...do u?"

                                            That most definitely implies that CBS would not run a bachmann ad.

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                                              Chemicalkinetics RE: twyst Jul 15, 2011 07:29 AM

                                              That is a good point. I will let srsone answer. Although srsone in the next statement did say it is not the intention:

                                              "no i didnt say that....
                                              just saying that CBS leans left.."

                                              People often just type something up without replying the person directly. I think I made that mistake twice yesterday. Someone said he belongs to the 1% of people who like All Clad handle, and I replied that there are more than 1% of people hate All Clad handle... basically I read the other person statement too quickly:

                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7949...

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                                                srsone RE: twyst Jul 15, 2011 07:31 AM

                                                still didnt say they wouldnt tho....
                                                i was still talking about the left leaning of CBS...

                                                i dont know CBS policy regarding who they will or wont run adds from...
                                                just saying based on the evidence..and reading bernie's book
                                                they lean left

                                                sorry if u interpreted that to mean they would never run a Bachmann add
                                                :-)

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                                                  thew RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 08:02 AM

                                                  if i misinterpreted, sorry. but that is certainly how it read to me

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                                                    roxlet RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 08:39 AM

                                                    Having worked at CBS, I can assure you that advertising is not based on politics. It is based on money.

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                                              ospreycove RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 04:53 PM

                                              waaaay left

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                                                thew RE: ospreycove Jul 16, 2011 06:08 AM

                                                which is why Summer Redstone was a major GWBush supporter in the 2000 and 2004 elections? He voted for whoever who result in more profit for CBS, not for whoever was more right or left

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                                                  Veggo RE: thew Jul 17, 2011 06:31 AM

                                                  You mean Sumner Redstone, not quite a man for all seasons?

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                                                    thew RE: Veggo Jul 17, 2011 09:01 AM

                                                    lol - damn those typos that spellcheck can't catch

                                                    (the other errors are all me)

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                                            Passadumkeg RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 05:42 PM

                                            Read McChesney's Rich Media, Poor Democracy. Very enlightening.

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                                              ninrn RE: Passadumkeg Jul 17, 2011 03:42 PM

                                              Great recommendation, Passadumkeg.

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                                          wincountrygirl RE: srsone Jul 14, 2011 08:11 AM

                                          LOL - no we're stuck with Obama

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                                            Chowrin RE: srsone Jul 14, 2011 08:22 AM

                                            well, I like rocket. don't you?
                                            /obfood

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                                              Bill Hunt RE: srsone Jul 14, 2011 07:31 PM

                                              My guess is NO.

                                              It is all about the candidate that a network supports, and NBC (and their variants), ABC, CBS and CNN all support Obama in 2012.

                                              You will very likely see no one else, through the elections.

                                              I am surprised that CH is allowed to have any ads for restaurants/corporations, that Michelle Obama does not support. That is possibly coming.

                                              Hunt

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                                                Chemicalkinetics RE: Bill Hunt Jul 14, 2011 07:34 PM

                                                Bill,

                                                I see it the other way around. I think it is the chicken or the egg. My thinking is not that CBS supports Obama. It is the fact that CBS viewers are more democratically leaning, so it makes sense for a Democratic candidate to spend money say on CBS than on Foxnews, where it would be wasting its cash.

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                                                  thew RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 14, 2011 08:01 PM

                                                  exact;y. cbs will put up an ad from hitler's ghost if it pays the bills. hitlers ghost however doesn't think we are the right demographic. Obama's campaign does.

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                                                  small h RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2011 04:42 AM

                                                  <It is all about the candidate that a network supports...>

                                                  Huh? It's all about who buys ads. If you see an ad for Ivory soap on CBS, do you conclude that CBS "supports" Ivory soap, and does not support Irish Spring?

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                                                    roxlet RE: small h Jul 15, 2011 05:01 AM

                                                    You are right, small h. Advertising has everything to do with targeted buys, and I am happy to realize that CH is perceived as democratically leaning by the advertising poohbahs.

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                                                      srsone RE: roxlet Jul 15, 2011 08:10 AM

                                                      i would rather be perceived as an adult who can make up my own mind...

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                                                        linguafood RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 08:16 AM

                                                        And you can't somehow because the CH demographic is perceived otherwise?

                                                        Strange. I thought an adult would not care either way.

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                                                          srsone RE: linguafood Jul 15, 2011 08:34 AM

                                                          no...just saying i like to make up my own mind...
                                                          and not have someone assume something just because of which website i post on..

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                                                            linguafood RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 08:40 AM

                                                            i think you'll have a hard time keeping strangers / websites from assuming anything about you. fb & gmail are great examples.

                                                            apparently, they are convinced i want to lose my belly fat. i don't '-)

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                                                              srsone RE: linguafood Jul 15, 2011 08:44 AM

                                                              i know...such is the world we live in nowadays...

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                                                                cosmogrrl RE: linguafood Jul 15, 2011 09:16 PM

                                                                I test Facebook games for a living. I have a male account, and a female account for testing purposes. You would not believe the differences in the ads i see. For the record, men have more variety in their ads on Facebook. Women get the belly fat, half off spa treatments and shoe ads. No matter how many times i tell them that the ad is of no interest to me.

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                                                                  Dave5440 RE: cosmogrrl Jul 15, 2011 10:11 PM

                                                                  You can tell them also I blocked all the games because of the ads

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                                                                    cosmogrrl RE: Dave5440 Jul 15, 2011 11:55 PM

                                                                    I know! I am not fond fo FB games myself, or FB. But I have a good job. It'll change soon. G+ may help this. I have no connection with facebook.

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                                                                  Glencora RE: linguafood Jul 16, 2011 08:58 AM

                                                                  Ha. And they think I want to go back to school. I really don't!

                                                                  I removed my ad blocker, just out of curiosity. Even though I support Obama, it is annoying to have his head bobbing around up there. Back goes the ad block.

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                                                              LaPomme RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 08:53 AM

                                                              Well obviously you're perceived as an adult. It would be a waste to pay for advertising to children who can't vote.

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                                                                srsone RE: LaPomme Jul 15, 2011 01:24 PM

                                                                no..but they can scream "buy me that-- i saw it on tv" at the top of their lungs....

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                                                                Chowrin RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 11:30 AM

                                                                ... that thought trends democratic ;-) [what, you really think there are moderates out there? ;-) ]

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                                                                  thew RE: Chowrin Jul 15, 2011 01:16 PM

                                                                  as colbert said: reality has a liberal bias

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                                                                  chowser RE: srsone Jul 15, 2011 11:43 AM

                                                                  You can want to be perceived as whatever you want but to a marketer, be it political, food, or whatever, you're a demographic and they're trying to pitch to you to buy their product. Hence, the exorbitant amount of money spent on ads. Hey, it's free for you to play here and that's one of the benefits.

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                                                                Windy RE: small h Jul 15, 2011 05:15 PM

                                                                Of course it is, but you can't argue with facts against those who are paranoid about technology or politics.

                                                                As if CBS has anything to do with Chowhound's site or content--if CBS were involved, this would all be General Mills and Johnson and Johnson and Nestle.

                                                                Big wealthy corporations, whose advertising pays for the servers and salaries and electricity for this site.

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                                                                  small h RE: Windy Jul 15, 2011 06:01 PM

                                                                  I await the day when a leaf blows onto someone's windshield, and he starts shrieking that he's being targeted by environmentalists. I'm sure it won't be long now. Left leaning trees!

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                                                                    cowboyardee RE: small h Jul 15, 2011 07:16 PM

                                                                    The tree outside my house has been dropping leaves all over my windshield. I always thought it leans to the right though. So today I walked around and looked at it from the other side - you're right, it does lean to the left!

                                                                    Don't worry though - I chopped it down.

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                                                                      Servorg RE: cowboyardee Jul 15, 2011 07:27 PM

                                                                      It wasn't a cherry tree by any chance was it?

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                                                                        small h RE: cowboyardee Jul 15, 2011 07:55 PM

                                                                        You did the right thing. Stumps are non-partisan. You can trust a stump to be scrupulously objective. And not to target you with leaves, or leaflets.

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                                                                          cowboyardee RE: small h Jul 15, 2011 09:54 PM

                                                                          No, it's gotten even worse. I'm gonna have to pull it out of the ground, fill out the hole, and cover it with sod.

                                                                          Because you know what's left of my tree?
                                                                          The stump.

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                                                                            Passadumkeg RE: cowboyardee Jul 16, 2011 03:08 AM

                                                                            Stumps are made by fools like me.
                                                                            "But only God can make a tree."

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                                                                            thew RE: small h Jul 16, 2011 06:09 AM

                                                                            but the stump speeches are endless

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                                                                              small h RE: thew Jul 16, 2011 01:23 PM

                                                                              The grass roots won't shut up, either.

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                                                              4. thew RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 08:41 AM

                                                                i could be wrong, but i suspect it is the particular candidate and not the general idea of a political ad that bothers you. That is certainly the case in some of the replies.

                                                                But more to the point - it is very simple:
                                                                it costs money to run a large site like this. we are on it for free. If you want to not see ads, write a large enough check to chowhound that their budget is covered. If you aren't willing to do that, then you have to deal with ads from the people who are willing to write the checks.

                                                                Or perhaps you would prefer there is an annual fee to use the site? Do you think it would still thrive in that situation? (Hint: NO)

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                                                                  Rene RE: thew Jul 14, 2011 08:45 AM

                                                                  As I posted earlier - "It works! Great, thanks so much! And thanks to ALL for the education on internet advertising".

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                                                                    ospreycove RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 09:10 AM

                                                                    Me too, thanks for the Adblock info!!!!!!! No More Obama ads !!!!!!!!

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                                                                      srsone RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 11:09 AM

                                                                      yes it does...most of the adds/popups/popunders...the annoying stuff gets blocked...the rest i ignore...
                                                                      unless its something i want to click on...

                                                                      the coupon for $2 off ribs and bbq sauce...ok..
                                                                      eddie munster staring at me ...blocked...

                                                                      same with tv...radio...if i dont want to listen/watch the commercials..click...next channel...

                                                                      such is life nowadays...

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                                                                      Chowrin RE: thew Jul 14, 2011 09:14 AM

                                                                      if you want to find an adfree place to talk cooking, there are cooking newsgroups.
                                                                      /obfood I want my sour cherries now! *impatient*

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                                                                        Bill Hunt RE: thew Jul 14, 2011 07:34 PM

                                                                        Actually, while a conservative Republican (in most instances), I do not want to see any political ads, left, or right, when on the CH site. I would only hope that there are other advertisers, who could support the site. I get enough indoctrination from the "media," and do not need it from a food site.

                                                                        Hunt

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                                                                          thew RE: Bill Hunt Jul 14, 2011 08:02 PM

                                                                          see my post above - or the one earlier about paying their entire ad revenue oneself

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                                                                            Bill Hunt RE: thew Jul 14, 2011 08:08 PM

                                                                            Well, some of us might be "the right demographic," but then some of us are definitely not. CH is just not the correct venue, at least in my estimation.

                                                                            Hunt

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                                                                              thew RE: Bill Hunt Jul 14, 2011 08:17 PM

                                                                              they dont to need to advertise to me, and wont get you i suspect, so we balance that out.....

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                                                                                Bill Hunt RE: thew Jul 14, 2011 09:10 PM

                                                                                That is probably correct..

                                                                                If so, then I would only hope that they would look elsewhere.

                                                                                Heck, I do not even want to see Glenn Beck ads on CH.

                                                                                Hunt

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                                                                                cwdonald RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2011 07:31 AM

                                                                                For any add to be profitable or impactful it doesnt have to appeal to 100 percent of the people on a site.. just enought people to either get their message out or drive enough revenue/donations. No site is so narrow that everyone agrees. CH definitely is the target venue... and the right target if they get enough click throughs and awareness.

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                                                                              chowser RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2011 05:56 AM

                                                                              I feel the same way about politics on TV, the highway, the sky, billboards, fairs/carnivals, races, etc. but that's life in a democratic society. Be thankful that they can.

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                                                                          2. Chemicalkinetics RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 11:25 AM

                                                                            Rene,

                                                                            I agree with others. Basically, the Obama electrion campaign pays for an ads. That is. Nothing to it. Why does the Obama campaign team decides to pay for it? Basically, it did some polling and decide that CHOWHOUND is a good target for the money. Nothing more to it.

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                                                                              Jase RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 12:36 PM

                                                                              Is it too soon for me to lodge a preemptive complaint about future Palin or Bachmann ads even though they probably will use the same mechanism as Obama to pay for the space?

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                                                                                Bill Hunt RE: Jase Jul 14, 2011 07:41 PM

                                                                                Though I might be more supportive of them, as candidates, I hope that CH will be free of THEIR ads, as well. This is just not the venue for that - from either side.

                                                                                Hunt

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                                                                                  linguafood RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2011 04:11 AM

                                                                                  they'll need all the support they can get.

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                                                                                    Jase RE: Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2011 12:32 PM

                                                                                    Huh? If they're willing to pay the bill, then I don't care. I may not care for them as candidates, but they've got every right to advertise where ever they want. If CH gets their bill paid and I get this site free, then I'm fine with it.

                                                                                    As long as it's not majorly offensive, then I'm fine with any ad on this site, political or what not. It's either going to work and people don't mind or it won't work and the ad will fade away. Who cares what ads are run in what venue.

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                                                                                  bobcam90 RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 01:13 PM

                                                                                  I just saw an ad for "Big Brother." What the hell is that doing on a food board?

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                                                                                    srsone RE: bobcam90 Jul 14, 2011 01:17 PM

                                                                                    cuz CBS owns CH...i have seen adds for a lot of CBS tv shows...

                                                                                    the big bang theory
                                                                                    ncis..

                                                                                    etc....

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                                                                                  2. jmcarthur8 RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 02:27 PM

                                                                                    Well, I'm glad I use Firefox, because I have no ads and didn't even know anybody did!

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                                                                                    1. meatme RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 04:03 PM

                                                                                      If I didn't already have one, political ads on a food site would be sufficient reason alone for me to install an ad blocker.

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                                                                                        bobcam90 RE: meatme Jul 14, 2011 04:27 PM

                                                                                        I feel the same about ads for reality tv.

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                                                                                      2. Vetter RE: Rene Jul 14, 2011 06:38 PM

                                                                                        I'm a lefty pinko commie type, but even I am so happy this thread led me to Adblock for Chrome. How's THAT for an advertisement?

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                                                                                        1. buttertart RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 05:29 AM

                                                                                          This morning is the first and only time I've seen an Obama ad on CH and I'm happy it's there.

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                                                                                          1. lupaglupa RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 07:18 AM

                                                                                            I'm with those who say the ads are here because they were placed here as part of an ad buy (not because of some CBS political conspiracy....) What's interesting is that Chowhound users are seen as potential Obama supporters. Is being a "foodie" an attribute that advertising folks see as leaning Democratic? Are we more urban? Are we better educated?

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                                                                                              roxlet RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 07:21 AM

                                                                                              No, we're smarter :)

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                                                                                                karenfinan RE: roxlet Jul 15, 2011 04:35 PM

                                                                                                :-)

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                                                                                                Chemicalkinetics RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 07:25 AM

                                                                                                I do think if are to take a poll on CHOWHOUND, you will find the people on this site leans slightly Democratic. Yes, I do think we are more urban because we know there is much better internet coverage for urban America than rural America.

                                                                                                Now, is that the only reason why we see an Obama ads? No, not really. In fact, I think a very important point is that the Obama campaign will not have any serious primary competitor, whereas the Republican field is very much wide open. It has great consequence as to how to run a campaign. A national air campaign? A local ground warfare? (I always love how campaign uses military terms....)

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                                                                                                  lupaglupa RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 15, 2011 07:32 AM

                                                                                                  Certainly Obama has more money to spend without a primary opponent. But they aren't going to run ads for no reason - they will target them to get maximum benefit. They must have data that supports the idea that people interested in food and cooking are more likely to vote Democratic than not.

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                                                                                                    Chemicalkinetics RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 07:39 AM

                                                                                                    "They must have data that supports the idea that people interested in food and cooking are more likely to vote Democratic than not."

                                                                                                    What? I was the one saying that? I thought you meant it is ridiculous that they think that when you wrote "What's interesting is that Chowhound users are seen as potential Obama supporters.", but now I know I interpreted your statement wrong. You were just being curious, but I thought you were being sarcastic.

                                                                                                    That being said, it is ok to launch at neutral or even opposite leaning audience. For example, you have seen Hillary Clinton ads on Foxnews and McCain ads on MSNBC. It is rare, but it happens and there is good reason too. Let's say, Obama team has already bought 10 TV ads spots on MSNBC, then maybe it is more beneficial to launch the 11th TV ads on Foxnews than on MSNBC. Yes, MSBNC leans left, but there were 10 ads on there already, the 11th ad will have a great diminishing return....etc. You get my point.

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                                                                                                      lupaglupa RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 15, 2011 08:04 AM

                                                                                                      I was curious - not sarcastic. And while, yes, some ads are put in places where the demographic is hostile, it's rare. The prevalence of the Obama ads on this site makes me think they are not a throw-away like that but represent a calculated attempt to reach out to a demographic group perceived as potential supporters.

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                                                                                                        twyst RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 08:10 AM

                                                                                                        I would have to agree. I think for the most part the whole "foodie" movement is seen as being most prevalent in urban areas, which also tend to be more supportive of the democratic party.

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                                                                                                          thew RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 08:11 AM

                                                                                                          they're looking for these guys:

                                                                                                          http://www.foodswing.com/

                                                                                                          foodswing voters

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                                                                                                            Chemicalkinetics RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 08:41 AM

                                                                                                            "they are not a throw-away like that but represent a calculated attempt to reach out to a demographic group perceived as potential supporters."

                                                                                                            Agree.

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                                                                                                        ospreycove RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 15, 2011 04:59 PM

                                                                                                        Chem you mean there are no gun clinging Christians from small town America here?

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                                                                                                          Passadumkeg RE: ospreycove Jul 15, 2011 05:43 PM

                                                                                                          You rang?

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                                                                                                        Chowrin RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM

                                                                                                        higher education trends democratic, so does higher income (to apoint). figure we got a lot of upper middle class people around here (judging from other people spending the equivalent of my rent on food per month!), and the professionals like technocrats.

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                                                                                                          Windy RE: lupaglupa Jul 15, 2011 05:18 PM

                                                                                                          No, Chowhound users are seen as potential whoever supporters. They probably bought the keyword "arugula" and they got this and Epicurious.

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                                                                                                            Melanie Wong RE: lupaglupa Jul 19, 2011 03:56 PM

                                                                                                            Here's the info on the site's demographics for potential advertisers
                                                                                                            http://www.cbsinteractive.com/oneshee...

                                                                                                            Or this info from Alexa.com (select "audience" tab) showing the site's audience is much more highly educated
                                                                                                            http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.cho...

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                                                                                                              lupaglupa RE: Melanie Wong Jul 19, 2011 04:25 PM

                                                                                                              So - younger and more affluent and better educated - all markers that trend Democratic. Interesting Melanie, thanks for sharing.

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                                                                                                                Windy RE: lupaglupa Jul 19, 2011 05:14 PM

                                                                                                                Affluent doesn't necessarily trend Democratic.

                                                                                                                I did finally turn off Ad Block, and agree the ads are huge and distracting, regardless of party affiliation.

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                                                                                                                  Davwud RE: Windy Jul 20, 2011 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                  Must be different in the US because I hardly notice them. I'm in Canada.

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                                                                                                                    lupaglupa RE: Windy Jul 20, 2011 11:38 AM

                                                                                                                    No demographic group is fully consistent in any one way or another. But broad trends can be found and in recent years the affluent in the US have tended to support the Democratic party (excepting the very rich who are still reliably Republican).

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                                                                                                                      ospreycove RE: lupaglupa Jul 20, 2011 12:06 PM

                                                                                                                      Most voting precincts in Florida that have higher income levels lean or are solidly repub. The Dems do very well in the inner city/urban/union areas.

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                                                                                                                        Chemicalkinetics RE: lupaglupa Jul 20, 2011 03:00 PM

                                                                                                                        Actually, that is the opposite. More affluent people tend to support the Republican Party except the very exceptionally wealthy ones like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.

                                                                                                                        http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007...

                                                                                                                        One small exception in the last presidential election cycle.

                                                                                                                        The real reason why CHOW is more Democratic leaning, if you look at Melanie Wong's data is that CHOW is female-heavy. I don't think neither education nor income was that big of a factor according to her data.

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                                                                                                                          Chowrin RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 21, 2011 06:04 AM

                                                                                                                          ... except that more affluent states support democrats. see connecticut.
                                                                                                                          I love demographics! (do you read fivethirtyeight?)
                                                                                                                          (never got the feeling chow was more female heavy. *shrugs*)

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                                                                                                                            Chemicalkinetics RE: Chowrin Jul 21, 2011 06:56 AM

                                                                                                                            Now States are different. You are correct. The wealthier states like New York, California...etc leans Democrats. Very.

                                                                                                                            :) No, I didn't even know about fivethirtyeight. Wikipedia says it is a polling aggregation website. I used to read Gallup daily when I was in graduate school, but not nearly as often these days. Now, I tend to just read realclearpolitics for my political polling data which is also a polling aggregation website as well. Too lazy to visit every websites these days, but I used to do that all the time when I was younger.

                                                                                                                            I didn't think the CHOWHOUND audience is as highly educated as some suggested here. While we do have a higher than average of college graduates population here than other website, we are significatly lower for people with a graduate school degree (advanced degree).

                                                                                                                            The male and female demographic on CHOWHOUND is the most significant difference compared to other websites. Huge difference. See the attached image. We also know females lean Democratic. For example, in 2008, males vote for Obama and McCain in 49:48, but the females went heavily for Obama at 56:43. In 2004, males went for Bush over Kerry at 55:44, while females went for Kerry at 48:51. This difference has been true for every presidential election that I remember.

                                                                                                                            Considered that the gender difference is the biggest difference compared to other websites. I am a bit surprised that people point to didn't mention it and mentioned the smaller difference in income and education. This is also true for party self identification as well (not just presidential election -- which can be different especially down South). The children thing also matters too.

                                                                                                                             
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                                                                                                                              srsone RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 21, 2011 08:12 AM

                                                                                                                              i dont have any degrees...no college...
                                                                                                                              just poor white trash that likes to cook and eat good food...

                                                                                                                              and im a white,middle-aged, southern christian-- mostly republican with a little libertarian ..white male

                                                                                                                              and i have a child...

                                                                                                                              and like guns...

                                                                                                                              and i watch nascar.

                                                                                                                              how does that fit in???

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                                                                                                                                thew RE: srsone Jul 21, 2011 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                fits the profile perfectly

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                                                                                                                                  Chemicalkinetics RE: srsone Jul 21, 2011 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                  :) I didn't say everyone fit that profile. It is just that on average... there are more females on this site than other sites. Obviously, there are males here too..... last time I checked myself in the bathroom... I was still a man. :P

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                                                                                                                                    srsone RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 21, 2011 10:33 AM

                                                                                                                                    ill just have to take your word on that..............................................

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                                                                                                                                      Servorg RE: srsone Jul 21, 2011 10:36 AM

                                                                                                                                      "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear"

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                                                                                                                                        Chemicalkinetics RE: Servorg Jul 21, 2011 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                        Servorg,

                                                                                                                                        I thought it is "Objects in mirror are LARGER than they appear"

                                                                                                                                        :P

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                                                                                                                                          Servorg RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 21, 2011 10:43 AM

                                                                                                                                          George Costanza and the "cold water" Seinfeld episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DoARS... said all that needs to be said on THAT little subject...

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                                                                                                                                          closer......yes.....

                                                                                                                                           
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                                                                                                                  2. twyst RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                    To get back to the original subject the OP started, we are about to be bombarded with ads from everyone on every site we go to. If you find political ads that disturbing you should probably just have your cable and internet disconnected, not turn on a radio and not go outside for the next 16 months. They are going to be EVERYWHERE.

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                                                                                                                      srsone RE: twyst Jul 15, 2011 08:35 AM

                                                                                                                      and also the adds are targeted based on your own web-surfing habits...

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                                                                                                                      DPGood RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 07:54 AM

                                                                                                                      Response to OP: Those ads don't interfere at all in my ability to navigate and enjoy this site any more than any other ad. And I don't let my own political beliefs and preferences interfere with that ability either. Sorry if your politics interferes with yours.

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                                                                                                                        linguafood RE: DPGood Jul 15, 2011 08:10 AM

                                                                                                                        Dito.

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                                                                                                                          roxlet RE: linguafood Jul 15, 2011 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                          +1

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                                                                                                                          chowser RE: DPGood Jul 15, 2011 08:49 AM

                                                                                                                          Exactly. And if politics bothers a person that much, better not turn on the TV, computer, radio, or leave the comfort of your home the next 1 1/2 years.

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                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: chowser Jul 15, 2011 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                            Or ever, given the now-perpetual election cycle in this country.

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                                                                                                                              chowser RE: buttertart Jul 15, 2011 09:09 AM

                                                                                                                              Sadly, yes.

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                                                                                                                        3. thew RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 08:03 AM

                                                                                                                          the fact that this conversation goes on shows it was a dollar well spent, and an appropriate venue to spend it

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                                                                                                                            Laurenjo28 RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                            If an ad as harmless as that deters you from visiting Chow, then you are quite limited to what sites you could log onto comfortably. Personally, when I'm on food sites, or any website for that matter, the ads have the least of my attention.

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                                                                                                                            1. Moedelestrie RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 12:53 PM

                                                                                                                              Well now that we have gone there let me add my political perspective. Food quality varies tremendously from region to region and internally within that region. Having lived in Chicago for many years and situated on the South Side I often times travelled an hour to the North side to get decent food. I am amazed that even living next to the poorest county in Vermont the quality of food is superior to what was available in supermarkets on the either the North or South side of Chicago. Here in Quebec and having access to the fruits and vegetable in the local supermarkets in both Quebec and Vermont I am made aware of how tasteless the high priced organic food at Whole Foods is. If you think Michelle Obama wants to control your food choices you should consider how someone like myself who considers eating and dining an important component in human well being would react if given any control in your food supply. My dog eats better tasting turkey and healthier than most Americans.

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                                                                                                                                Isolda RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                                I don't see any ads. Are the CH people discriminating against me? I'm going to sue.

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                                                                                                                                  Moedelestrie RE: Isolda Jul 15, 2011 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                  Ni moi non plus.

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                                                                                                                                    Windy RE: Isolda Jul 15, 2011 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                    I just see a pot of sauerkraut and sausage. Don't vegetarians have a right to meat-free discussion boards?

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                                                                                                                                      bobcam90 RE: Windy Jul 15, 2011 05:59 PM

                                                                                                                                      I swear I hate that picture more than ANY on CH !

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                                                                                                                                        Windy RE: bobcam90 Jul 17, 2011 04:01 PM

                                                                                                                                        Today they finally replaced it with dessert bars. Thank goodness!

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                                                                                                                                          thew RE: Windy Jul 17, 2011 04:11 PM

                                                                                                                                          I'm offended by the placement of dessert bars advertisements on chowhound. i dont think its a chowworthy topic.

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                                                                                                                                            Windy RE: thew Jul 17, 2011 04:18 PM

                                                                                                                                            Since I reloaded, I got muffins on a rack.

                                                                                                                                            But Chow's ad technology is really behind the times. Google would be reading the keywords in our posts and spitting out tailored pictures of taco trucks, or tasting menus in Sonoma.

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                                                                                                                                  2. pikawicca RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 06:05 PM

                                                                                                                                    I've blocked all ads on CH, so am not bothered by whatever is out there. Suggest that anyone who is, does the same.

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                                                                                                                                      bobstripower RE: pikawicca Jul 16, 2011 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                                      how do you do that??

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                                                                                                                                    2. cosmogrrl RE: Rene Jul 15, 2011 11:56 PM

                                                                                                                                      FYI I have yet to see an Obama ad

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                                                                                                                                        Passadumkeg RE: cosmogrrl Jul 16, 2011 03:09 AM

                                                                                                                                        It's on the top of the page! One has to believe!

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                                                                                                                                        bobstripower RE: Rene Jul 16, 2011 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                        these ads are really a turn off--yes they have the right to place whatever ads they want,but i for one will be moving to one of the many,bigger blogs that have food issues. w/o the ads

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                                                                                                                                          thew RE: bobstripower Jul 16, 2011 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                                          enjoy. just remember someone is paying for those blogs too.

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                                                                                                                                            srsone RE: bobstripower Jul 16, 2011 09:26 AM

                                                                                                                                            its just easier to click "block"

                                                                                                                                            never see an add u dont want again...

                                                                                                                                            now if we could get an app that will do the same for all those annoying little pop adds on the tv...
                                                                                                                                            and the station id's....

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                                                                                                                                          2. LivingGF RE: Rene Jul 16, 2011 10:07 AM

                                                                                                                                            Advertising pays the expenses of sites like Chowhound so they are free for our use. I would prefer to ignore ads and have free access to the sites I love - and sometimes there's an ad that actually appeals to me, then everyone wins.

                                                                                                                                            Most of the ads don't bother me anyway, whether I like what they're advertising or not. Few offensive ads show up on the sites I use, and I can use the site without being irritated by the ads - unless they're flashing, noisy little devils. Now *those* irritate me!

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                                                                                                                                              ospreycove RE: Rene Jul 17, 2011 06:01 AM

                                                                                                                                              What? Obama is doing ads for 5 GUYS BURGERS?

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                                                                                                                                              1. Foureyes137 RE: Rene Jul 21, 2011 10:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                Free Markets!

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                                                                                                                                                  sisterfunkhaus RE: Rene Jul 21, 2011 10:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Really? You are leaving b/c someone paid for an ad on a for profit site and they are running it? Can we not be a little more mature than that? Are we really so sensitive these days that we can't just ignore things we don't like?

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                                                                                                                                                    Passadumkeg RE: sisterfunkhaus Jul 21, 2011 11:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Beats looking at The Donald!

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                                                                                                                                                      kimfair1 RE: sisterfunkhaus Jul 21, 2011 11:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Now there you go being the voice of reason and all! It seems that those who hate Obama need to realize he was elected by voters to be president. I didn't like George Bush Jr. but I wouldn't have spewed all this vitriol over his right to advertise on a web site or not. I'd ignore it. I don't come here for politics either, but I won't stop coming if Bachmann ads start showing up. The right/left division in our country is starting to become a chasm. The sad part is that nearly all of us are more to the center than anyone would like to admit. In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

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                                                                                                                                                        Passadumkeg RE: kimfair1 Jul 21, 2011 11:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I dunno. If it was G W Bush, I'd probably look at the face, shut down the computer and go read Mad magazine. Hmmmm, not a bad idea.

                                                                                                                                                        What me worry?

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                                                                                                                                                          Chemicalkinetics RE: kimfair1 Jul 21, 2011 11:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                          "I didn't like George Bush Jr. but I wouldn't have spewed all this vitriol over his right to advertise on a web site or not."

                                                                                                                                                          Maybe you don't, but certainly many people do. So it goes both ways. So is it even a surprise that some people dislike seeing Obama ads in hindsight?

                                                                                                                                                          "The sad part is that nearly all of us are more to the center than anyone would like to admit.

                                                                                                                                                          You are only look at the vote. While it is true, the center does not vote in large number as the more motivated left and right. Voter turnout that is. On top of that, and most important -- donation, election contribution, volunteer works. Moderate voters simply do not contribute much. To a politican, a single motivated voter is more important than ten lackluster moderate.

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                                                                                                                                                            Passadumkeg RE: Chemicalkinetics Jul 21, 2011 12:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                            I'm a Bloshivik. Imagine the bruhaha, If my buddy Karl or Vladimir Illich show up? Everything is relative,

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                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: Passadumkeg Jul 21, 2011 12:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Two sightings on the boards recently: a reference to anarcho-syndicalism and "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" quoted. Did my little heart good.

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                                                                                                                                                      2. The Chowhound Team RE: Rene Jul 21, 2011 12:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Folks, things in this thread are getting awfully far afield from anything to do with CHOW or Chowhound and into general political leanings and such. We're going to lock it now.

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