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  • Rene Jul 14, 2011 07:01 AM
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What the hell? There are two or three per page sometimes. I'm going to have to say good bye until after the elections. What the hell are these ads doing on a food board? Sheesh.

  1. Obama loves coconut water.

    1. Where are these ads, please? Citations?

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      1. re: DPGood

        I saw them on the right side of the screen every time I visited this site yesterday. I come here to get away from politics. They are a turn-off,

        1. re: justalex

          Apologies. I assigned the OP was referring to threads, or posts in threads. As far as the right side of the screen, this site is owned by CBS which, as I recall, is a for-profit company that sells ads, among other things, and I don't think they sell ads only to Obama, do they?

          1. re: DPGood

            The OP clearly stated ads. Obviously CBS sells ads to many companies and organizations. As I said, I come here to get away from politics. The ads are a turn-off.

            1. re: DPGood

              Nevermind that Obama has CBS in his pocket......

          2. re: DPGood

            DP It is on the banner at top of the page; now after seeing it I have lost my appetite for any more visits to Chow Hound!!!!!!!

          3. There he is! Just on the right of this thread now!

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            1. re: quirkydeb

              That is awful. There he is!

            2. Adblock?

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              1. re: odkaty

                It works! Great, thanks so much! And thanks to ALL for the education on internet advertising.

                1. re: odkaty

                  How do you do the adblock?

                  1. re: wincountrygirl

                    if u use firefox ...its an extension u download then u can block any add or popup that comes up

                    there is a thread about using it under the discussion about the facebook sharing thingy that comes out of the side of the page..

                    1. re: wincountrygirl

                      google "cnet adblock". There is a download there.

                      1. re: wincountrygirl

                        http://adblockplus.org/en/

                        There are also versions/variations for Chrome and Safari.

                        1. re: odkaty

                          Thanks all - totally need to get rid of those ads!

                    2. So what? It's just an ad. Companies or organizations or even individuals can buy ad space wherever they want to.

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                      1. re: sadiefox

                        Agreed. I barely notice the ads.

                        DT

                      2. The ads here aren't always food related. Granted a food company could be attracted to this site but so could many others.

                        1. If you want to get rid of the ads you should get rid of your internet provider I can assure you that here in Canada no American political ads appear on Chowhound. The top of my page has an ad for 50% off in restaurants in Sherbrooke, Silk Beverage recipes, and the local deal of the day. Tour local internet provider is selling the space not Chowhound. I can understand wanting to get away from US politics whenever I see Orin Hatch I get the heaves.

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                          1. re: Moedelestrie

                            Ditto. I am in Canada too and there are no political ads on my pages.

                            1. re: CanadaGirl

                              That has more to do with Canadian politicians and groups not placing them than with your internet provider.

                              1. re: Windy

                                I didn't mean to imply that Canadian politicians don't put ads up. While we unfortunately have lots of the attack ads that seem to permeate American politics (not saying we are better on that), we are not currently in "election mode" and so there are not currently political ads when I am on the Internet. My point was simply to support previous comments that the ads showing up have to do with your location and are not necessarily because someone at CH wants to support Obama, or any other politician.

                                1. re: CanadaGirl

                                  Oh sure. It's a matter of Chowhound/CBS having different ad servers based on location. Which makes sense--advertisers only buy ads in markets they sell in, even online advertisers.

                                  I don't think we're in election mode either, just perpetual fundraising. (I don't acually know--I use ad block and never saw the offending ad.)

                                  1. re: Windy

                                    As an outsider looking in, you never seem to leave election mode! We do not have fixed election dates, and while there are problems with that sometimes, IMHO we don't end up with the last half of an elected term seeming like a campaign. If a Canadian Prime Minister had two years left in his/her term, I don't recall ever hearing speculation about the PM's chances of re-election in the next election.

                          2. i know ....
                            a left leaning media company (CBS) running ads for the left leaning candidates??

                            i wonder if we'll ever see a Michele Bachmann add???

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                            1. re: srsone

                              If she decides to pay for one we will.

                              1. re: twyst

                                u dont know much about CBS ...do u?

                                read Bernie Goldberg's book "Bias"

                                1. re: srsone

                                  Are you suggesting CBS refuses to run political ads for republican candidates? Because if you are, you are wrong.

                                  1. re: twyst

                                    no i didnt say that....
                                    just saying that CBS leans left......

                                    1. re: srsone

                                      but it is irrelevant how they lean (and how they lean is towards whatever is good for a large multinational corporation's profits)

                                      you claimed they wouldnt take an ad from a leading GOP candidate. that is clearly not true.

                                      1. re: thew

                                        "you claimed they wouldnt take an ad from a leading GOP candidate"

                                        Thew,

                                        No, srsone didn't claim that. It may sound like it to you, but if you objectively dissect words for words, it does not claim that. Srsone's quote:

                                        "a left leaning media company (CBS) running ads for the left leaning candidates??

                                        i wonder if we'll ever see a Michele Bachmann add???"

                                        Both can be interrupted as circumstantial statement. The first statement is obvious. A left leaning candidate launches an ads on a left leaning media... not too different than a left leaning candidate gives his speech to a left leaning crowd. Or finding a polar bear in the north pole. Nothing special.

                                        The second statement can also be read the same way but in reverse: I wonder why a right leaning candidate won't launch his/her campaign ads on the left leaning media? It does not claim the left leaning media rejects the right leaning candidate. It is just an reinforcement of the first statement. It is no different than saying "I wonder when will I see a Bengal tiger in the north pole."

                                        Analogy:

                                        "I know... a polar bear living in the north pole?? I wonder if we will ever see a Bengal tiger in the north pole"

                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                          and my first statement was more a sarcastic reply to the OP
                                          :-)

                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                            Actually you didnt address the post he was referring to.

                                            When I said

                                            "If she decides to pay for one we will"

                                            srs replied with

                                            "u dont know much about CBS ...do u?"

                                            That most definitely implies that CBS would not run a bachmann ad.

                                            1. re: twyst

                                              That is a good point. I will let srsone answer. Although srsone in the next statement did say it is not the intention:

                                              "no i didnt say that....
                                              just saying that CBS leans left.."

                                              People often just type something up without replying the person directly. I think I made that mistake twice yesterday. Someone said he belongs to the 1% of people who like All Clad handle, and I replied that there are more than 1% of people hate All Clad handle... basically I read the other person statement too quickly:

                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7949...

                                              1. re: twyst

                                                still didnt say they wouldnt tho....
                                                i was still talking about the left leaning of CBS...

                                                i dont know CBS policy regarding who they will or wont run adds from...
                                                just saying based on the evidence..and reading bernie's book
                                                they lean left

                                                sorry if u interpreted that to mean they would never run a Bachmann add
                                                :-)

                                                1. re: srsone

                                                  if i misinterpreted, sorry. but that is certainly how it read to me

                                                  1. re: srsone

                                                    Having worked at CBS, I can assure you that advertising is not based on politics. It is based on money.

                                            2. re: srsone

                                              waaaay left

                                              1. re: ospreycove

                                                which is why Summer Redstone was a major GWBush supporter in the 2000 and 2004 elections? He voted for whoever who result in more profit for CBS, not for whoever was more right or left

                                                1. re: thew

                                                  You mean Sumner Redstone, not quite a man for all seasons?

                                                  1. re: Veggo

                                                    lol - damn those typos that spellcheck can't catch

                                                    (the other errors are all me)

                                          2. re: srsone

                                            Read McChesney's Rich Media, Poor Democracy. Very enlightening.

                                            1. re: Passadumkeg

                                              Great recommendation, Passadumkeg.

                                        2. re: srsone

                                          LOL - no we're stuck with Obama

                                          1. re: srsone

                                            well, I like rocket. don't you?
                                            /obfood

                                            1. re: srsone

                                              My guess is NO.

                                              It is all about the candidate that a network supports, and NBC (and their variants), ABC, CBS and CNN all support Obama in 2012.

                                              You will very likely see no one else, through the elections.

                                              I am surprised that CH is allowed to have any ads for restaurants/corporations, that Michelle Obama does not support. That is possibly coming.

                                              Hunt

                                              1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                Bill,

                                                I see it the other way around. I think it is the chicken or the egg. My thinking is not that CBS supports Obama. It is the fact that CBS viewers are more democratically leaning, so it makes sense for a Democratic candidate to spend money say on CBS than on Foxnews, where it would be wasting its cash.

                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                  exact;y. cbs will put up an ad from hitler's ghost if it pays the bills. hitlers ghost however doesn't think we are the right demographic. Obama's campaign does.

                                                2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                  <It is all about the candidate that a network supports...>

                                                  Huh? It's all about who buys ads. If you see an ad for Ivory soap on CBS, do you conclude that CBS "supports" Ivory soap, and does not support Irish Spring?

                                                  1. re: small h

                                                    You are right, small h. Advertising has everything to do with targeted buys, and I am happy to realize that CH is perceived as democratically leaning by the advertising poohbahs.

                                                    1. re: roxlet

                                                      i would rather be perceived as an adult who can make up my own mind...

                                                      1. re: srsone

                                                        And you can't somehow because the CH demographic is perceived otherwise?

                                                        Strange. I thought an adult would not care either way.

                                                        1. re: linguafood

                                                          no...just saying i like to make up my own mind...
                                                          and not have someone assume something just because of which website i post on..

                                                          1. re: srsone

                                                            i think you'll have a hard time keeping strangers / websites from assuming anything about you. fb & gmail are great examples.

                                                            apparently, they are convinced i want to lose my belly fat. i don't '-)

                                                            1. re: linguafood

                                                              i know...such is the world we live in nowadays...

                                                              1. re: linguafood

                                                                I test Facebook games for a living. I have a male account, and a female account for testing purposes. You would not believe the differences in the ads i see. For the record, men have more variety in their ads on Facebook. Women get the belly fat, half off spa treatments and shoe ads. No matter how many times i tell them that the ad is of no interest to me.

                                                                1. re: cosmogrrl

                                                                  You can tell them also I blocked all the games because of the ads

                                                                  1. re: Dave5440

                                                                    I know! I am not fond fo FB games myself, or FB. But I have a good job. It'll change soon. G+ may help this. I have no connection with facebook.

                                                                2. re: linguafood

                                                                  Ha. And they think I want to go back to school. I really don't!

                                                                  I removed my ad blocker, just out of curiosity. Even though I support Obama, it is annoying to have his head bobbing around up there. Back goes the ad block.

                                                            2. re: srsone

                                                              Well obviously you're perceived as an adult. It would be a waste to pay for advertising to children who can't vote.

                                                              1. re: LaPomme

                                                                no..but they can scream "buy me that-- i saw it on tv" at the top of their lungs....

                                                              2. re: srsone

                                                                ... that thought trends democratic ;-) [what, you really think there are moderates out there? ;-) ]

                                                                1. re: Chowrin

                                                                  as colbert said: reality has a liberal bias

                                                                2. re: srsone

                                                                  You can want to be perceived as whatever you want but to a marketer, be it political, food, or whatever, you're a demographic and they're trying to pitch to you to buy their product. Hence, the exorbitant amount of money spent on ads. Hey, it's free for you to play here and that's one of the benefits.

                                                              3. re: small h

                                                                Of course it is, but you can't argue with facts against those who are paranoid about technology or politics.

                                                                As if CBS has anything to do with Chowhound's site or content--if CBS were involved, this would all be General Mills and Johnson and Johnson and Nestle.

                                                                Big wealthy corporations, whose advertising pays for the servers and salaries and electricity for this site.

                                                                1. re: Windy

                                                                  I await the day when a leaf blows onto someone's windshield, and he starts shrieking that he's being targeted by environmentalists. I'm sure it won't be long now. Left leaning trees!

                                                                  1. re: small h

                                                                    The tree outside my house has been dropping leaves all over my windshield. I always thought it leans to the right though. So today I walked around and looked at it from the other side - you're right, it does lean to the left!

                                                                    Don't worry though - I chopped it down.

                                                                    1. re: cowboyardee

                                                                      It wasn't a cherry tree by any chance was it?

                                                                      1. re: cowboyardee

                                                                        You did the right thing. Stumps are non-partisan. You can trust a stump to be scrupulously objective. And not to target you with leaves, or leaflets.

                                                                        1. re: small h

                                                                          No, it's gotten even worse. I'm gonna have to pull it out of the ground, fill out the hole, and cover it with sod.

                                                                          Because you know what's left of my tree?
                                                                          The stump.

                                                                          1. re: cowboyardee

                                                                            Stumps are made by fools like me.
                                                                            "But only God can make a tree."

                                                                          2. re: small h

                                                                            but the stump speeches are endless

                                                                            1. re: thew

                                                                              The grass roots won't shut up, either.

                                                              4. i could be wrong, but i suspect it is the particular candidate and not the general idea of a political ad that bothers you. That is certainly the case in some of the replies.

                                                                But more to the point - it is very simple:
                                                                it costs money to run a large site like this. we are on it for free. If you want to not see ads, write a large enough check to chowhound that their budget is covered. If you aren't willing to do that, then you have to deal with ads from the people who are willing to write the checks.

                                                                Or perhaps you would prefer there is an annual fee to use the site? Do you think it would still thrive in that situation? (Hint: NO)

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                                                                1. re: thew

                                                                  As I posted earlier - "It works! Great, thanks so much! And thanks to ALL for the education on internet advertising".

                                                                  1. re: Rene

                                                                    Me too, thanks for the Adblock info!!!!!!! No More Obama ads !!!!!!!!

                                                                    1. re: Rene

                                                                      yes it does...most of the adds/popups/popunders...the annoying stuff gets blocked...the rest i ignore...
                                                                      unless its something i want to click on...

                                                                      the coupon for $2 off ribs and bbq sauce...ok..
                                                                      eddie munster staring at me ...blocked...

                                                                      same with tv...radio...if i dont want to listen/watch the commercials..click...next channel...

                                                                      such is life nowadays...

                                                                    2. re: thew

                                                                      if you want to find an adfree place to talk cooking, there are cooking newsgroups.
                                                                      /obfood I want my sour cherries now! *impatient*

                                                                      1. re: thew

                                                                        Actually, while a conservative Republican (in most instances), I do not want to see any political ads, left, or right, when on the CH site. I would only hope that there are other advertisers, who could support the site. I get enough indoctrination from the "media," and do not need it from a food site.

                                                                        Hunt

                                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                          see my post above - or the one earlier about paying their entire ad revenue oneself

                                                                          1. re: thew

                                                                            Well, some of us might be "the right demographic," but then some of us are definitely not. CH is just not the correct venue, at least in my estimation.

                                                                            Hunt

                                                                            1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                              they dont to need to advertise to me, and wont get you i suspect, so we balance that out.....

                                                                              1. re: thew

                                                                                That is probably correct..

                                                                                If so, then I would only hope that they would look elsewhere.

                                                                                Heck, I do not even want to see Glenn Beck ads on CH.

                                                                                Hunt

                                                                              2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                For any add to be profitable or impactful it doesnt have to appeal to 100 percent of the people on a site.. just enought people to either get their message out or drive enough revenue/donations. No site is so narrow that everyone agrees. CH definitely is the target venue... and the right target if they get enough click throughs and awareness.

                                                                            2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                              I feel the same way about politics on TV, the highway, the sky, billboards, fairs/carnivals, races, etc. but that's life in a democratic society. Be thankful that they can.

                                                                          2. Rene,

                                                                            I agree with others. Basically, the Obama electrion campaign pays for an ads. That is. Nothing to it. Why does the Obama campaign team decides to pay for it? Basically, it did some polling and decide that CHOWHOUND is a good target for the money. Nothing more to it.

                                                                            1. Is it too soon for me to lodge a preemptive complaint about future Palin or Bachmann ads even though they probably will use the same mechanism as Obama to pay for the space?

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                                                                              1. re: Jase

                                                                                Though I might be more supportive of them, as candidates, I hope that CH will be free of THEIR ads, as well. This is just not the venue for that - from either side.

                                                                                Hunt

                                                                                1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                  they'll need all the support they can get.

                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                    Huh? If they're willing to pay the bill, then I don't care. I may not care for them as candidates, but they've got every right to advertise where ever they want. If CH gets their bill paid and I get this site free, then I'm fine with it.

                                                                                    As long as it's not majorly offensive, then I'm fine with any ad on this site, political or what not. It's either going to work and people don't mind or it won't work and the ad will fade away. Who cares what ads are run in what venue.

                                                                                2. I just saw an ad for "Big Brother." What the hell is that doing on a food board?

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                                                                                  1. re: bobcam90

                                                                                    cuz CBS owns CH...i have seen adds for a lot of CBS tv shows...

                                                                                    the big bang theory
                                                                                    ncis..

                                                                                    etc....

                                                                                  2. Well, I'm glad I use Firefox, because I have no ads and didn't even know anybody did!

                                                                                    1. If I didn't already have one, political ads on a food site would be sufficient reason alone for me to install an ad blocker.

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                                                                                      1. re: meatme

                                                                                        I feel the same about ads for reality tv.

                                                                                      2. I'm a lefty pinko commie type, but even I am so happy this thread led me to Adblock for Chrome. How's THAT for an advertisement?

                                                                                        1. This morning is the first and only time I've seen an Obama ad on CH and I'm happy it's there.

                                                                                          1. I'm with those who say the ads are here because they were placed here as part of an ad buy (not because of some CBS political conspiracy....) What's interesting is that Chowhound users are seen as potential Obama supporters. Is being a "foodie" an attribute that advertising folks see as leaning Democratic? Are we more urban? Are we better educated?

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                                                                                            1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                              No, we're smarter :)

                                                                                              1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                :-)

                                                                                              2. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                I do think if are to take a poll on CHOWHOUND, you will find the people on this site leans slightly Democratic. Yes, I do think we are more urban because we know there is much better internet coverage for urban America than rural America.

                                                                                                Now, is that the only reason why we see an Obama ads? No, not really. In fact, I think a very important point is that the Obama campaign will not have any serious primary competitor, whereas the Republican field is very much wide open. It has great consequence as to how to run a campaign. A national air campaign? A local ground warfare? (I always love how campaign uses military terms....)

                                                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                  Certainly Obama has more money to spend without a primary opponent. But they aren't going to run ads for no reason - they will target them to get maximum benefit. They must have data that supports the idea that people interested in food and cooking are more likely to vote Democratic than not.

                                                                                                  1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                    "They must have data that supports the idea that people interested in food and cooking are more likely to vote Democratic than not."

                                                                                                    What? I was the one saying that? I thought you meant it is ridiculous that they think that when you wrote "What's interesting is that Chowhound users are seen as potential Obama supporters.", but now I know I interpreted your statement wrong. You were just being curious, but I thought you were being sarcastic.

                                                                                                    That being said, it is ok to launch at neutral or even opposite leaning audience. For example, you have seen Hillary Clinton ads on Foxnews and McCain ads on MSNBC. It is rare, but it happens and there is good reason too. Let's say, Obama team has already bought 10 TV ads spots on MSNBC, then maybe it is more beneficial to launch the 11th TV ads on Foxnews than on MSNBC. Yes, MSBNC leans left, but there were 10 ads on there already, the 11th ad will have a great diminishing return....etc. You get my point.

                                                                                                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                      I was curious - not sarcastic. And while, yes, some ads are put in places where the demographic is hostile, it's rare. The prevalence of the Obama ads on this site makes me think they are not a throw-away like that but represent a calculated attempt to reach out to a demographic group perceived as potential supporters.

                                                                                                      1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                        I would have to agree. I think for the most part the whole "foodie" movement is seen as being most prevalent in urban areas, which also tend to be more supportive of the democratic party.

                                                                                                        1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                          they're looking for these guys:

                                                                                                          http://www.foodswing.com/

                                                                                                          foodswing voters

                                                                                                          1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                            "they are not a throw-away like that but represent a calculated attempt to reach out to a demographic group perceived as potential supporters."

                                                                                                            Agree.

                                                                                                      2. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                        Chem you mean there are no gun clinging Christians from small town America here?

                                                                                                        1. re: ospreycove

                                                                                                          You rang?

                                                                                                      3. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                        higher education trends democratic, so does higher income (to apoint). figure we got a lot of upper middle class people around here (judging from other people spending the equivalent of my rent on food per month!), and the professionals like technocrats.

                                                                                                        1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                          No, Chowhound users are seen as potential whoever supporters. They probably bought the keyword "arugula" and they got this and Epicurious.

                                                                                                          1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                            Here's the info on the site's demographics for potential advertisers
                                                                                                            http://www.cbsinteractive.com/oneshee...

                                                                                                            Or this info from Alexa.com (select "audience" tab) showing the site's audience is much more highly educated
                                                                                                            http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.cho...

                                                                                                            1. re: Melanie Wong

                                                                                                              So - younger and more affluent and better educated - all markers that trend Democratic. Interesting Melanie, thanks for sharing.

                                                                                                              1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                                Affluent doesn't necessarily trend Democratic.

                                                                                                                I did finally turn off Ad Block, and agree the ads are huge and distracting, regardless of party affiliation.

                                                                                                                1. re: Windy

                                                                                                                  Must be different in the US because I hardly notice them. I'm in Canada.

                                                                                                                  DT

                                                                                                                  1. re: Windy

                                                                                                                    No demographic group is fully consistent in any one way or another. But broad trends can be found and in recent years the affluent in the US have tended to support the Democratic party (excepting the very rich who are still reliably Republican).

                                                                                                                    1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                                      Most voting precincts in Florida that have higher income levels lean or are solidly repub. The Dems do very well in the inner city/urban/union areas.

                                                                                                                      1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                                        Actually, that is the opposite. More affluent people tend to support the Republican Party except the very exceptionally wealthy ones like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.

                                                                                                                        http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007...

                                                                                                                        One small exception in the last presidential election cycle.

                                                                                                                        The real reason why CHOW is more Democratic leaning, if you look at Melanie Wong's data is that CHOW is female-heavy. I don't think neither education nor income was that big of a factor according to her data.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                          ... except that more affluent states support democrats. see connecticut.
                                                                                                                          I love demographics! (do you read fivethirtyeight?)
                                                                                                                          (never got the feeling chow was more female heavy. *shrugs*)

                                                                                                                          1. re: Chowrin

                                                                                                                            Now States are different. You are correct. The wealthier states like New York, California...etc leans Democrats. Very.

                                                                                                                            :) No, I didn't even know about fivethirtyeight. Wikipedia says it is a polling aggregation website. I used to read Gallup daily when I was in graduate school, but not nearly as often these days. Now, I tend to just read realclearpolitics for my political polling data which is also a polling aggregation website as well. Too lazy to visit every websites these days, but I used to do that all the time when I was younger.

                                                                                                                            I didn't think the CHOWHOUND audience is as highly educated as some suggested here. While we do have a higher than average of college graduates population here than other website, we are significatly lower for people with a graduate school degree (advanced degree).

                                                                                                                            The male and female demographic on CHOWHOUND is the most significant difference compared to other websites. Huge difference. See the attached image. We also know females lean Democratic. For example, in 2008, males vote for Obama and McCain in 49:48, but the females went heavily for Obama at 56:43. In 2004, males went for Bush over Kerry at 55:44, while females went for Kerry at 48:51. This difference has been true for every presidential election that I remember.

                                                                                                                            Considered that the gender difference is the biggest difference compared to other websites. I am a bit surprised that people point to didn't mention it and mentioned the smaller difference in income and education. This is also true for party self identification as well (not just presidential election -- which can be different especially down South). The children thing also matters too.

                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                              i dont have any degrees...no college...
                                                                                                                              just poor white trash that likes to cook and eat good food...

                                                                                                                              and im a white,middle-aged, southern christian-- mostly republican with a little libertarian ..white male

                                                                                                                              and i have a child...

                                                                                                                              and like guns...

                                                                                                                              and i watch nascar.

                                                                                                                              how does that fit in???

                                                                                                                              1. re: srsone

                                                                                                                                fits the profile perfectly

                                                                                                                                1. re: srsone

                                                                                                                                  :) I didn't say everyone fit that profile. It is just that on average... there are more females on this site than other sites. Obviously, there are males here too..... last time I checked myself in the bathroom... I was still a man. :P

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                    ill just have to take your word on that..............................................

                                                                                                                                    1. re: srsone

                                                                                                                                      "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear"

                                                                                                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                        Servorg,

                                                                                                                                        I thought it is "Objects in mirror are LARGER than they appear"

                                                                                                                                        :P

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                          George Costanza and the "cold water" Seinfeld episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DoARS... said all that needs to be said on THAT little subject...

                                                                                                                                        2. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                          closer......yes.....

                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                  2. To get back to the original subject the OP started, we are about to be bombarded with ads from everyone on every site we go to. If you find political ads that disturbing you should probably just have your cable and internet disconnected, not turn on a radio and not go outside for the next 16 months. They are going to be EVERYWHERE.

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                                                                                                                    1. re: twyst

                                                                                                                      and also the adds are targeted based on your own web-surfing habits...

                                                                                                                    2. Response to OP: Those ads don't interfere at all in my ability to navigate and enjoy this site any more than any other ad. And I don't let my own political beliefs and preferences interfere with that ability either. Sorry if your politics interferes with yours.

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                                                                                                                      1. re: DPGood

                                                                                                                        Dito.

                                                                                                                        1. re: linguafood

                                                                                                                          +1

                                                                                                                        2. re: DPGood

                                                                                                                          Exactly. And if politics bothers a person that much, better not turn on the TV, computer, radio, or leave the comfort of your home the next 1 1/2 years.

                                                                                                                          1. re: chowser

                                                                                                                            Or ever, given the now-perpetual election cycle in this country.

                                                                                                                            1. re: buttertart

                                                                                                                              Sadly, yes.

                                                                                                                        3. the fact that this conversation goes on shows it was a dollar well spent, and an appropriate venue to spend it

                                                                                                                          1. If an ad as harmless as that deters you from visiting Chow, then you are quite limited to what sites you could log onto comfortably. Personally, when I'm on food sites, or any website for that matter, the ads have the least of my attention.

                                                                                                                            1. Well now that we have gone there let me add my political perspective. Food quality varies tremendously from region to region and internally within that region. Having lived in Chicago for many years and situated on the South Side I often times travelled an hour to the North side to get decent food. I am amazed that even living next to the poorest county in Vermont the quality of food is superior to what was available in supermarkets on the either the North or South side of Chicago. Here in Quebec and having access to the fruits and vegetable in the local supermarkets in both Quebec and Vermont I am made aware of how tasteless the high priced organic food at Whole Foods is. If you think Michelle Obama wants to control your food choices you should consider how someone like myself who considers eating and dining an important component in human well being would react if given any control in your food supply. My dog eats better tasting turkey and healthier than most Americans.

                                                                                                                              1. I don't see any ads. Are the CH people discriminating against me? I'm going to sue.

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                                                                                                                                1. re: Isolda

                                                                                                                                  Ni moi non plus.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Isolda

                                                                                                                                    I just see a pot of sauerkraut and sausage. Don't vegetarians have a right to meat-free discussion boards?

                                                                                                                                    1. re: Windy

                                                                                                                                      I swear I hate that picture more than ANY on CH !

                                                                                                                                      1. re: bobcam90

                                                                                                                                        Today they finally replaced it with dessert bars. Thank goodness!

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Windy

                                                                                                                                          I'm offended by the placement of dessert bars advertisements on chowhound. i dont think its a chowworthy topic.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: thew

                                                                                                                                            Since I reloaded, I got muffins on a rack.

                                                                                                                                            But Chow's ad technology is really behind the times. Google would be reading the keywords in our posts and spitting out tailored pictures of taco trucks, or tasting menus in Sonoma.

                                                                                                                                  2. I've blocked all ads on CH, so am not bothered by whatever is out there. Suggest that anyone who is, does the same.

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: pikawicca

                                                                                                                                      how do you do that??

                                                                                                                                    2. FYI I have yet to see an Obama ad

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: cosmogrrl

                                                                                                                                        It's on the top of the page! One has to believe!

                                                                                                                                      2. these ads are really a turn off--yes they have the right to place whatever ads they want,but i for one will be moving to one of the many,bigger blogs that have food issues. w/o the ads

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: bobstripower

                                                                                                                                          enjoy. just remember someone is paying for those blogs too.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: bobstripower

                                                                                                                                            its just easier to click "block"

                                                                                                                                            never see an add u dont want again...

                                                                                                                                            now if we could get an app that will do the same for all those annoying little pop adds on the tv...
                                                                                                                                            and the station id's....

                                                                                                                                          2. Advertising pays the expenses of sites like Chowhound so they are free for our use. I would prefer to ignore ads and have free access to the sites I love - and sometimes there's an ad that actually appeals to me, then everyone wins.

                                                                                                                                            Most of the ads don't bother me anyway, whether I like what they're advertising or not. Few offensive ads show up on the sites I use, and I can use the site without being irritated by the ads - unless they're flashing, noisy little devils. Now *those* irritate me!

                                                                                                                                            1. What? Obama is doing ads for 5 GUYS BURGERS?

                                                                                                                                              1. Free Markets!

                                                                                                                                                1. Really? You are leaving b/c someone paid for an ad on a for profit site and they are running it? Can we not be a little more mature than that? Are we really so sensitive these days that we can't just ignore things we don't like?

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: sisterfunkhaus

                                                                                                                                                    Beats looking at The Donald!

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: sisterfunkhaus

                                                                                                                                                      Now there you go being the voice of reason and all! It seems that those who hate Obama need to realize he was elected by voters to be president. I didn't like George Bush Jr. but I wouldn't have spewed all this vitriol over his right to advertise on a web site or not. I'd ignore it. I don't come here for politics either, but I won't stop coming if Bachmann ads start showing up. The right/left division in our country is starting to become a chasm. The sad part is that nearly all of us are more to the center than anyone would like to admit. In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kimfair1

                                                                                                                                                        I dunno. If it was G W Bush, I'd probably look at the face, shut down the computer and go read Mad magazine. Hmmmm, not a bad idea.

                                                                                                                                                        What me worry?

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: kimfair1

                                                                                                                                                          "I didn't like George Bush Jr. but I wouldn't have spewed all this vitriol over his right to advertise on a web site or not."

                                                                                                                                                          Maybe you don't, but certainly many people do. So it goes both ways. So is it even a surprise that some people dislike seeing Obama ads in hindsight?

                                                                                                                                                          "The sad part is that nearly all of us are more to the center than anyone would like to admit.

                                                                                                                                                          You are only look at the vote. While it is true, the center does not vote in large number as the more motivated left and right. Voter turnout that is. On top of that, and most important -- donation, election contribution, volunteer works. Moderate voters simply do not contribute much. To a politican, a single motivated voter is more important than ten lackluster moderate.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                                                                                                                                                            I'm a Bloshivik. Imagine the bruhaha, If my buddy Karl or Vladimir Illich show up? Everything is relative,

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Passadumkeg

                                                                                                                                                              Two sightings on the boards recently: a reference to anarcho-syndicalism and "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" quoted. Did my little heart good.

                                                                                                                                                      2. Folks, things in this thread are getting awfully far afield from anything to do with CHOW or Chowhound and into general political leanings and such. We're going to lock it now.