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Yunan Garden Becomes Yungui Garden Becomes Yunchuan Garden Becomes Yunkun Garden (Good Thing For Movable Lettering Part II)

Chandavkl Jul 11, 2011 01:30 PM

So now it's called Yunkun Garden, which does resemble the most recent predecessor name, Yunchuan Garden. Everything appears to be the same. The menu still says Yunchuan Garden and the cold table up front is the same. Don't ask me what's going on. I can only speculate. I kind of wish that location (301D N. Garfield in Monterey Park) was Crystal Palace again.

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    JThur01 RE: Chandavkl Jul 11, 2011 03:03 PM

    I'm glad you posted this as it brings up something I've wanted to post for some time. For years, the San Gabriel location on Las Tunas and the Monterey Pk. location have been "sister" restaurants, supposedly with the same owners. Last year, there began to be a significant difference in menus between the two. Yunchuan dropped many dishes from their menu and added several others (a change of around two dozen items!). Eventually, each removed reference to the other restaurant from their menus, with Yunchuan no longer listing Yunnan and vice versa. I'm kind of surprised that no one else noticed or mentioned this. This is one of my favorite places, and yet it seems to be taken for granted, despite often favorable comments here at CH and among food bloggers. What's up with the 2010-11 changes and the two separating themselves?

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      Chandavkl RE: JThur01 Jul 11, 2011 04:21 PM

      I think it's a not uncommon phenomenon. Isn't there a question of the ultimate affiliations of the once affiliated Newport Seafoods, Sam Woos, in San Diego, the Chin's in NorCal, Tung Kee, etc.? It seems to me that the business model for many of these Chinese restaurants when they expand is quite different from the normal corporate model (e.g., Panda Express). Open location #2--tab older brother to run it. Location #3? - bring in the brother in law. Location #4 - Cousin Bill can run that. After a while things can get messed up as operations become unwieldy and squabbling begins.

      Newport Seafood Restaurant
      4411 W 1st St, Santa Ana, CA 92703

      Sam Woo Cafe
      727 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012

    2. J.L. RE: Chandavkl Jul 11, 2011 05:09 PM

      Isn't there a Yunnan Garden (2 N's) on Las Tunas in San Gabriel?

      Yunnan Garden
      545 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776

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        Chandavkl RE: J.L. Jul 11, 2011 06:09 PM

        Yes, and a Yunnan Garden in Hacienda Heights and a Yun Nan Garden in Las Vegas.

        Yunnan Garden
        545 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776

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          ipsedixit RE: J.L. Jul 11, 2011 07:56 PM

          I like this Yunnan Garden, esp. the 米线 and the cold, marinated potato strips.

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          sushigirlie RE: Chandavkl Jul 11, 2011 07:37 PM

          I rarely eat at this restaurant because the napkins are so cheap and flimsy. Seriously, that's the main reason. The food is good, though. Some dishes (e.g., boiled fish) are even more hot and numbing than ordinary.

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            raytamsgv RE: sushigirlie Jul 12, 2011 11:52 AM

            Wouldn't getting more napkins solve the problem?

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              odub RE: raytamsgv Jul 12, 2011 11:33 PM

              I can feel sushigirlie on this one; a Chinese restaurant that has to ration flimsy napkins = not a good look.

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                sushigirlie RE: raytamsgv Jul 13, 2011 05:06 AM

                They have the cheap napkins tightly packed in metal canisters on the table. I've found it impossible to get them out without tearing them. And they're no good if you get oil on your hands.

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                  TonyC RE: sushigirlie Jul 13, 2011 10:07 AM

                  I don't get the joke (it is a joke, yes?)

                  This is a Chinese restaurant, not a taco truck. Last I checked, they're still providing chopsticks + spoons. I can leave Yunnan/Yunchuan/Yungui /Yunkun without getting my hands dirty. Use your shirt to wipe your mouth, it's "authentic".

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                    raytamsgv RE: sushigirlie Jul 13, 2011 10:19 AM

                    Tsk, tsk--you have not been practicing your "Eagle Claw Retrieves Napkin" technique. :-)

                    Well, there are alternative techniques you can use:
                    1. Eagle Knock Confuses Canister: Pretend you are knocking on a door and knock on the napkins. However, keep on pushing the napkins in. With your other hand, use your "Eagle Claw Retrieves Napkin" technique to retrieve a stack of napkins. Then retract your Eagle Knock hand.

                    2. Eagle Claw Fights Heroic Snake Duo: With one hand, use a pair of chopsticks (Heroic Snake Duo), push the napkins into the canister, which is similar to the "Eagle Knock Confuses Canister" technique. Then with your other hand, use your "Eagle Claw Retrieves Napkin" technique to retrieve a stack of napkins. Retract your chopsticks.

                    Grasshopper, when you can take napkins from the metal canister and not leave a trace, you will have learned....

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                      sushigirlie RE: raytamsgv Jul 17, 2011 09:13 PM

                      Thanks. But guess what? I ate here today. They got rid of the metal canisters. And they had perfectly fine napkins.

                      The food was good as always. I just like Sichuan food though. If the dish has ma and la it's a pretty safe bet I'm going to like it.

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                        JThur01 RE: sushigirlie Jul 19, 2011 09:30 AM

                        This puzzled me, as I've been eating there for a while now and they've always provided good napkins. Granted, those become sticky and oil covered after a few wipes and soon hands stick to them, but there is a bathroom around the corner that serves well as a wash-up station. Still, so long as there's been no significant changes to the food, one of my favorites.

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                          ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Jul 19, 2011 08:10 PM

                          I can't believe we're debating napkins -- both their thickness and ease of extrusion from those metal canisters.

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                            JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Jul 21, 2011 12:12 PM

                            I agree, so to get this back to food, I found the boiled fish and "wild chili" dishes at Yunchuan Garden to be the hottest of the hot. The only comparable was a fish dish at Shu Feng.

                            Shu Feng
                            18459 Colima Rd, Rowland Heights, CA 91748

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                              JThur01 RE: JThur01 Aug 18, 2011 11:27 AM

                              Steering the thread away from napkins again...does anyone have any conclusive info about the separation of Yunnan Garden in San Gabriel (on Las Tunas) and what is now known as Yunkun Garden in Monterey Park (on Garfield)?

                              And, any other changes to Yunkun Garden?...or is it simply yet another name change?

                              Yunnan Garden
                              545 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776

                              Las Tunas Restaurant
                              3603 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90020

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                                Chandavkl RE: JThur01 Aug 18, 2011 01:40 PM

                                Nothing else to report. However you might want to apply my theory on why Chinese restaurants change names. (See my profile page for blog link--one of my few food related musings discussed this subject on July 8, 2011.)

                      2. re: raytamsgv
                        AAQjr RE: raytamsgv Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM

                        One of the funniest posts i've seen in a long time!

                        They need a 'best of...' chow like on craigslist lol

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