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3 drinks, up at 3am, why?

When I was in college, I could, like most of my cohorts, drink way too much, sleep well, and function in the morning. In this millennium, I find more and more that if I have more than 2 drinks, even if they are spaced out and I do my best to drink lots of water, I end up waking up in the middle of the night, wide awake, heart pounding, super thirsty. Does this happen to other people, and can anybody explain why it happens? Is it just part of the metabolism changing with age? - I'm late 30's and I've noticed this trend over the past few years. What gives? Now, I'm not considering this a serious medical problem, just really annoying, I'm curious as to what is going on physiologically and of course what I can do to prevent it. Not that I plan to drink like a 21 year old ever again, but every now and then it would be nice to be able to have a 3rd glass of wine AND a good night's sleep!

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  1. Welcome to being old...ish. I can't drink more than 2 drinks unless I am prepared to pay for it later that night, either--I sleep terribly if I drink a third (or more) glass of wine. I too could put away much more when I was 20, but at 43, those days are gone. Over the course of my 30s I also became progressively more and more sensitive to caffeine, to the point where I stopped drinking caffeine in any form at 41. It's annoying. But there you go.

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    1. re: travelmad478

      Blurg. 43 here also. Let me tell you about what too much sodium does to my ankles now...

      1. re: shanagain

        What's even suckier is that this thread is two years old, now I'm 45, and it just gets worse :-)

        1. re: travelmad478

          Ha. Yeah, I pretty much quit drinking, for a few reasons. It's just not worth it anymore.

          1. re: babette feasts

            Well, Babette, I'll tell you...

            If I had all the money I'd spent on drink,

            I'd spend it on drink.

          2. re: travelmad478



            Now that's what I'm talking about.

        2. re: travelmad478

          Yikes! At 29 I am already avoiding the caffeine and my colleagues think I am crazy. Great to know this will be getting worse.

          1. re: melpy

            Yep. I was not only hypersensitive (eventually, having a caffeinated drink anytime after noon would keep me up until 4 AM) but also got severe migraines in the late afternoon if I happened to miss my one cup of tea in the morning. Finally I got a withdrawal reaction so bad that I felt like I was in the heroin-withdrawal scene in Trainspotting, at which point I swore off caffeine permanently. On the plus side, I have never been one of those people who needs a cup of coffee in the morning to wake up, so for me it's just about missing the taste of coffee. And the aggravation of having to scrutinize every soda can, never being able to order iced tea, etc. I mostly drink water and seltzer now. Sigh.

            1. re: melpy

              yeaaah...within about 5 years or so, they'll all be following in your footsteps.

              Getting old sucks...but it does tend to cut back on the fierce hangovers.

              1. re: melpy

                If you're not actually ovrsensitive to it, you might want to try to build up a 'resistance ' to it. An iced tea here and there, the odd cup of coffee- think of it as training. There's little harm in caffeine for most folks, and it will help you not be blindsided by it if accidentally exposed. JMHO

                1. re: EWSflash

                  I don't have problems if I have a piece of chocolate or a cup of decaf (both of which contain small amounts of caffeine) but that's as far as I care to go. It's not like people are going to be secretly spiking my drinks with caffeine. I can avoid it pretty easily.

                2. re: melpy

                  years ago i instituted a "no caffeine" policy for my office because, at any given time, half the folks were in bathroom peeing.
                  the increased productivity from the caffeine was leading to decreased productivity because of it's diuretic effect. . . .

                  1. re: westsidegal

                    Why not just catheterize everyone when they walk in the door?

                    1. re: sunshine842

                      we had a small office.
                      it was important that SOMEONE be there to answer the phone.
                      the caffeine was fine until DURING THE DAY the phones were constantly being put on the service.
                      that's when i started to adulterate the caffeinated coffee with decaf.
                      nobody even knew what had happened until the conversion was complete.
                      the placebo effect is quite something.
                      they THOUGHT they were drinking caffeinated coffee, so they FELT alert, but they were able to answer the phone!

                    2. re: westsidegal

                      it must really have been a shock when you banned lunches!

                3. I just turned 40 and that 3rd glass of wine is a sure way to be up in the middle of the night. I have the same thing - waking with a start, pounding heart, absolutely can't go back to sleep.

                  I noticed this starting about 3 years ago. My friends also complain about it.

                  I don't drink caffeine past 9am. Even a couple of sips of soda in the afternoon wrecks my sleep. I am considering eliminating it from my diet all together as I don't need coffe and should stop drinking soda.
                  For me, it is just wine that bothers me. I rarely drink beer but when I do, like at a picnic or BBQ, multiple beers don't bother me at all, aside from a trip to the potty. We will do rum punches for cookouts once or twice a month and they don't bother me either.

                  Anyone else notice that their sensitivity is wine-only related?

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                  1. re: cleobeach

                    Weirldy, I can handle soda. But yeah, drinking makes it hard to sleep if it's more than a couple drinks as well as a serious hangover the next day.

                    1. re: cleobeach

                      I often have trouble sleeping through the night if I've had alcohol of any type, but red or off-dry wine is BY FAR the worst offender. More than one glass and I'm almost guaranteed to have a shitty night. If I drink something else (dry white wine, Scotch, clear liquors, etc.), I can usually have three drinks and still get a decent night's sleep, as long as they're well spaced and I have plenty of water.

                      1. re: biondanonima

                        I just listened to a podcast (I think it was Andrew Zimmern's) that had a wine expert guest. She talked about all the additives in American white wines and how nearly all the below $30 a bottle chardonnays give wicked hangovers because of the additives.

                        I rarely (maybe 3x a year) drink red wine. My family seems to have a dermo issue that causes us to break out in a facial rash from red wine.

                    2. For me, it is drinking and having a big meal. Although, typically having more than 2 glasses of wine goes with being out for a grand dining experience anyway. I honestly think it is all the extra work my body is doing to metabolize it all. I wake up sweating and just can't seem to get comfortable again. I have tried sleeping with my shoulders propped up (advice given to those suffering from reflux issues) but it doesn't help at all. I have also tried taking a walk after dinner, not going to bed too soon after I eat. Nope - doesn't seem to help much.

                      I also don't have quite as much difficulty with beer, but if I truly over indulge with that, it will get me too.

                      I started noticing this problem around 35, and it has continued to worsen as I am only a few months from 40. I have to be very careful, or just accept that I'm going to pay for it later. :(

                      1. Everyone has different body chemistry -- generalizations are futile. I can drink three martinis and a Guinness, go to sleep and experience little more than excellent dreams...oh, and I've never experienced this mythical affliction called a "hangover."

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                        1. re: beevod

                          Lucky you! When I was younger, hangovers were much more elusive, now, all too easy to come by. I get that everyone is different, but there must be a general set of changes in the body that would lead to this reaction, don't you think? Just curious what those might be.

                          1. re: babette feasts

                            Everyone's body is different and, again, generalizations are absurd. My parents smoked, drank and basked,,,basked! in the Florida sun for years, sans suntan creams. They died well into their nineties, with neither wrinkles nor melanomas. (My father considered bourbon to be medically advisable for those over 85.

                            1. re: beevod

                              I hope you've had kids. Those are some damn good genes!

                          2. Age, dear.

                            About the time I turned 40, I noticed I could not have more than one glass of beer or wine within 3 hours of going to bed - if I did, I would wake after 3 sleep cycles and not get back to sleep. So I only drink beer or wine with lunch or an early dinner. Distilled spirits have less of an effect than fermented beverages, but I am still careful.

                            So now you will understand another reason why *many* middle aged folks are teetotalers at dinner time....(it's been fun to watch younger friends of mine who used to think I was merely being miserly, and who resented objections to separating bar tabs from food tabs, come to a similar place as they've aged).

                            1. Wow! I thought it was just me. Exactly the same scenario - a few drinks, up at 3:00, heart pounding, cotton mouth, etc.

                              When I was younger, no matter how epic the night before, I was up and functioning the next morning. Cheerful even. Maybe a little headache, but nothing a salty, early lunch wouldn't cure.

                              These days, however, that third drink is the kicker. I'm a wreck for half of the next day. Really? A hangover from three glasses of wine? Spaced out over an entire evening? 25 year old me would find this hysterical. 40 something me is not amused.

                              Thanks for posting about this.

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                              1. re: Whinerdiner

                                Think of the money you are saving.

                              2. Well I'm glad to hear I'm not alone! Sucks getting old : / I wonder if it's organs not dealing with the alcohol as efficiently, more delicate sleep patterns (melatonin/brain chemistry related?) a general slowed metabolism, or what. For me the delay is what seems so odd. I can usually get to sleep fine, then about 3 hours later, wide awake, hot, etc. I don't drink beer, this definitely happens with wine or cocktails. I've been getting into cider lately, haven't noticed if that is any different.

                                1. They say it affects REM sleep patterns and once the alcohol wears off--3 am--you are in light REM sleep so you wake up. http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/fe...

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                                  1. re: escondido123

                                    I also found explanations involving glutamine rebound and cortisol.


                                    Alcohol consumption has huge implications on the hormonal system of the body. Dr. Barry Sears, author of the Zone Diet, says that food is just like a drug because each time we eat or drink; there is a hormonal response that occurs. The hormonal response that occurs with alcohol consumption is a rapid rise in insulin from the pancreas to manage sky rocketing blood sugar levels. As insulin brings blood sugar down, the body goes through a state of hyperglycemia (high blood sugar) to hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). There are a number of physiological consequences that occur. Hypoglycemia is an imminent threat to the body therefore a hormone called cortisol is released by the adrenal glands to deal with this low blood sugar. Through the process of gluconeogenesis, cortisol breaks down glycogen (stored glucose) or muscle tissue to release glucose into the blood stream to normalize blood sugar. If this is done repeatedly, the body senses this hyperglycemia to hypoglycemia as a stress to the body. This will continually stress the adrenal glands which will cause dysregulation of several other hormones.

                                    This scenario can also affect your quality of sleep. Most people do not associate their quality of sleep with alcohol consumption. Ask yourself this question: Do you drink alcohol in the evening and find yourself waking up in the middle of the night for no reason? If you answered yes, alcohol may be the reason why you are suddenly waking up. The reason for your sleep disruption is due to the hormonal response of insulin and cortisol. When you consume alcohol in the evening with dinner, the blood sugar level in your body goes into a state of hyperglycemia (high blood sugar). As you go to sleep, the blood sugar drops dramatically to a hypoglycemic (low blood sugar) state. Since hypoglycemia is a severe threat to the body, cortisol is secreted to normalize blood sugar. Unfortunately, cortisol is also a stimulating hormone which may cause a person to wake up in the middle of the night.


                                    After a night of alcohol consumption, a drinker won't sleep as soundly as normal because the body is rebounding from alcohol's depressive effect on the system. When someone is drinking, alcohol inhibits glutamine, one of the body's natural stimulants. When the drinker stops drinking, the body tries to make up for lost time by producing more glutamine than it needs.

                                    The increase in glutamine levels stimulates the brain while the drinker is trying to sleep, keeping them from reaching the deepest, most healing levels of slumber. This is a large contributor to the fatigue felt with a hangover. Severe glutamine rebound during a hangover also may be responsible for tremors, anxiety, restlessness and increased blood pressure.

                                    Interesting. Sounds like self control is the best option. Darn it! ; )

                                    1. re: babette feasts

                                      Frankly, this sounds half-baked. For example, a high-sugar dessert before bedtime (like 1/2 cup of sherbet) has NO effect on my sleep whatsoever. Alcohol (esp fermented) within 3 hrs of going to sleep has a marked effect. And, anecdotally, I know I am far from alone.

                                      1. re: Karl S

                                        Good point about the hypoglycemia-cortisol reaction. Does anybody know enough about glutamine to weigh in on whether that theory holds water? I find how the body and brain work to be pretty fascinating reading, but don't actually know much about it.

                                      2. re: babette feasts

                                        It sounds half baked to me as well, especially since I check my blood sugar often (am not diabetic but at risk, with slightly higher than normal levels) and it's not low (hypoglycemic) when I awake at 3 or 4 am. My belief is that it is a stressed liver that causes this. The hours of 2-4 am is when the liver dumps its toxins into the bowels. As we age and especially living in the west in the modern age, we are exposed to multiple toxins. Alcohol is a toxin, and 3 drinks more so (and wine more so, due to unregulated additives). When we are younger, our livers are more efficient -- as we age, and especially if we have been exposed to multiple toxins, livers are less efficient and more taxed. This is an individual thing depending on lifestyle and whole host of other factors, which is why this issue of awakening after alcohol is a problem with only some, but not all, people.

                                    2. The solution is to have your three glasses of wine for breakfast. Then you are in the clear!

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                                      1. re: GutGrease

                                        Perfect! Might interfere with a little more than sleep though.

                                      2. Just part of getting older. I used to live 3 blocks off of bourbon street and party like a rock star several times a week with no problem sleeping and almost no hangover. Once I hit 30 it was like somebody flicked a switch and I definitely had to slow it down!

                                        1. I notice this sort of thing only happens to me on "school nights", when I know I have to be up early. My body acts as a subconscious alarm clock, and I am definitely a night person who requires an alarm to get up in the morning. And actually, it takes more than 3 drinks.

                                          But on weekends, when I can sleep late, I don't have this problem at all. I might gulp at some water when I wake up, but it's at 11 am, not 6.

                                          1. I'm (gulp) 49 - and I can drink 3 large (i.e. a bottle) of white wine on a school night as long as I also drink at least a pint of water before going to bed. I do wake up in the early hours, but just to go for a pee (I feel fine at that point). I then drink another pint or so of water before going back to bed. Then when I get up (at 5:45) I am as fresh as an only slightly wilted daisy.
                                            Red wine, on the other hand, is a killer. 2 glasses and I am regretting it next day.

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                                            1. re: Peg

                                              Wow! You are a superwoman. I'm 48 and cannot come close to that. If I have more than 2 glasses of any type of wine (my drink of choice), I wake up at about 3 and cannot get back to sleep, even after drinking water. My liver hates me.

                                              1. re: Isolda

                                                Hmmm - there's nothing 'super' about drinking too much. I just know that I can do it if I stick to 'white' drinks. I've never ever woken and not been able to go back to sleep - if anything the opposite.
                                                When I was younger I drank more frequently and more copiously - I drink less now because I really don't think even a mild hangover is worth any amount of 'fun' - it is only lucky genetics that means I don't have a tendency to form habits/addictions else I'm sure I'd be in rehab by now.

                                              2. re: Peg

                                                Me too, pretty much. I'm 49 and can drink 2-3 cocktails (usually gin & tonic) or wine and sleep through the night like a baby. the 3rd drink will most assuredly cause a hangover, so i rarely do it anymore, unless it's a big splurge night out, but 2 usually is fine. i used to have a problem with red wine when i was in my 40s (headaches, but never with white) but that's gone now.

                                              3. Too many variables with insufficient data. If you're really curious about it, try setting aside a week and having 3 drinks in the evenings with different routines each time. One night the drinks can be on a fairly empty stomach. Another night it can be with a heavy meal. With a light meal and a brisk walk afterwards. With a heavy meal and a brisk walk afterwards. And, so on.

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                                                1. re: ediblover

                                                  No, it's pretty darn consistent. If I go out to happy hour on an empty stomach, eat lightly and walk around, if I have a full fabulous meal, if the drinks are earlier in the evening or later, more spread out or clustered together, even if I try to be really good about hydration. It has become the rule that 3 drinks or more equals crappy sleep and the other symptoms described and shared by other posters. I will definitely look for exceptions to the rule and if I find them and try to change my habits that way. Occasionally 2 drinks are enough, so maybe those times the drinks are just stronger. I do know that drinking every night does NOT work for me, as it seriously affects my mood, so I have no desire to try such an experiment. If it feels good, do it, but if it doesn't, I guess it's time to change habits.

                                                  1. re: babette feasts

                                                    Short of a liver biopsy, you really do have to document what you can to hopefully gain some clues. Relying on memory isn't a very good approach in these matters, especially since alcohol is a factor. Without experimenting... There are only wild guesses and no data. Speaking of which, my wild guess is that it's more about the factors present when drinking occurs. That is, if a person drinks when x happens (a party, feast, stress, sports etc.), I'm more curious about the factors associated with x than I am with just the alcohol.

                                                    1. re: ediblover

                                                      A variety of posters have also noticed a similar change in processing alcohol as they age, REGARDLESS of other factors or reasons why alcohol was consumed. You see that as wild guesses and no data, we see it as a well defined, unfortunate trend in our lives, where the one constant is having 3 or more drinks. 3 happy drinks, 3 sad drinks. 3 gin and tonics, 3 red wine. 3 hungry drinks, 3 sated drinks. 3 drinks, every time. How is that 'no data'? If every time you cut yourself you bleed, it doesn't take too many times to draw a direct correlation and you don't worry about your mood when you cut yourself or whether you cut yourself making breakfast or dinner, chopping onions or apples. In that example, you seem to be saying that it is more important to look at knife technique, if you were in a hurry, or distracted by the dog. In that example, the why I would be looking for is that blood vessels are broken, allowing blood cells to leak out, and it takes time for clotting to occur, so you bleed and its red because of the reaction of the hemoglobin with oxygen.

                                                      I'm a pastry chef, not a doctor, endocrinologist, or whatever, so I was hoping there might be someone who could explain how exactly the body functions when processing alcohol and how it occurs that there are age-related changes. I am sure modern medical science has more than wild guesses to how metabolism works and how and why it changes with age, what happens on a cellular level, what hormones or chemicals are responsible for what. It was a science question, that's it. It's fine if you can't answer it. If someone could explain the basic processes not related to age or possibly waking up in the middle of the night, that would be a start. Next time I'll ask Bill Nye instead.

                                                2. This started happening to me when I was about 25.. Now at 28, I find I don't always wake up around 3, but I might wake up at 5am and not be able to get back to sleep (this would be after going to be around 1 am).

                                                  Sounds like it's just going to get worse as I get older. Awesome.

                                                  1. It's known as Alcohol Induced Insomnia, and I beleive it's very common. I've done the 4 am wake up thing as long as I can remember. (well...no heart pounding, actually)

                                                    I have no idea the scientific reason, but I have always felt like it was my body getting confused moving from being "passed-out" to just "sleeping". Maybe in college you were drinking more so that the "passed out" phase lasted til morning ;-)

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                                                    1. re: danna

                                                      A name! Interesting. I like your 'confused body' theory. I guess there's no firm answer to my question, just one of those things that happens to some of us, at best a reminder to keep alcohol consumption moderate. Very moderate!

                                                    2. step one: half glass a day for two weeks
                                                      step two: glass a day for two weeks
                                                      step three: glass and a half for two weeks

                                                      and so on....

                                                      you are becoming a lightweight, you need to take serious action (lol)

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                                                      1. re: kpaxonite

                                                        Being a lightweight saves money, and I don't have to lie to my doctor : )

                                                        1. re: babette feasts

                                                          I like your profile:

                                                          My current drink of choice:

                                                          sauvignon blanc

                                                          rather ironic

                                                      2. WOW YES!!! Same for me!!! Exactly, and it started about 2 or 3 years ago all of a sudden. I was wondering if I developed some type of allergy to alcohol or something. Now I just don't drink. I guess I'm better off anyhow.

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                                                        1. re: Gmarie

                                                          Well, I'm 60ish, and i'm having a bit of a prob.continue to drink. It's important. I just deal with the difference. I like to drink. I just adjust. Don't angst too much.

                                                        2. Thanks to this thread: I had 2 drinks last night (after stubbing my toe so hard I thought I broke it). When I woke up at 4:15, I not only couldn't sleep, I also was thinking about this thread. Grr. :)

                                                            1. I have heard of this, only because a friend is a sleep disorder specialist. It's not uncommon at all to have trouble staying asleep after a few drinks. The pounding heart part of it would concern me a bit.

                                                              I guess the solution (as someone above mentioned) is to start drinking earlier!

                                                              1. This happened to me for years. I read that alcohol has both sedatives and stimulants. Once the sedative wears off, the stimulant kicks in. Less-than-very-young-women are prone to not sleeping well, anyway, so the stimulant part is more effective than when they are young.

                                                                I am 54 and seem to be mostly over it now, so there is hope for drinking for old ladies.

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                                                                1. re: sandylc

                                                                  Sandylc, you are giving me hope. In fact I had two generous glasses of red wine on Friday night, went straight to bed and slept like a log. I was almost afraid to mention it in case I was somehow jinxing myself.

                                                                  1. re: travelmad478

                                                                    I'm an old lady too, at this point. Sometimes I wake up at 2AM with my heart pounding, but sometimes I sleep through the night. Hard to say why, so I always give alcohol another chance. No rhyme nor reason.

                                                                    Maybe more hormonal, rather than physical repercussions? My hangovers are very few and far between (mainly if I'm out and don't eat enough) so who knows really. But as I get older, I actually feel more tolerant of the side effects. Whether that's good or bad remains to be seen!

                                                                    1. re: coll

                                                                      I've always slept terribly, my whole life, and getting older certainly isn't helping matters (hormonal changes and all that). But it certainly would be nice to know that alcohol won't make things any worse! I like wine!

                                                                      1. re: travelmad478

                                                                        Well if you're still changing, give it a little more time. Worked for me!

                                                                        1. re: travelmad478

                                                                          I guess we can drink up in that case. :)

                                                                    2. re: sandylc

                                                                      I don't drink much but when I do I fall asleep quite well and wake up usually in the middle of the night wide awake, dehydrated and unable to go to sleep. This is why when people think it will help them sleep it actually makes it worse.

                                                                    3. I know this is an old thread, but most nights I too wake at about 2 to 3 pm regardless of whether I drink or not: unless I've worked hard during the day. I'm up for a couple of hours, head back and usually have a good sleep.

                                                                      Here is a link sent to me yesterday that will interest anyone with the same problem.


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                                                                      1. re: DockPotato

                                                                        Someone recently send me a Facebook funny, saying Why you wake up at 2 or 3 AM every night. It was a photo of a dog and a cat head resting on the edge of the bed, looking at the camera with big wide open eyes. This is usually what does it for me!

                                                                        1. re: DockPotato

                                                                          Thank you for this - great article.

                                                                          1. re: sandylc

                                                                            Something the writer didn't consider that occurred to me a while ago. Wine and beer were the beverages of choice over water because the water could be so foul before modern sanitation and plumbing. Maybe everyone slept in 2 stages because everyone, even the kids, went to bed pissed.

                                                                            Just a thought.

                                                                        2. I drink a lot, mostly bourbon and red wine. I am 55 years old, and I don't think I process the alcohol any differently than I did when I was 25 years old. I ate butter and beef and bacon back then, too. My dear husband, a slim man, has cholesterol out of control, and takes blood pressure meds. I take nothing but the occasional laxative. I really think that it all depends on your genes. And that is something that you cannot control. It is just the luck of the draw.

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                                                                          1. re: RosePearl

                                                                            Yeah, it truly fucking sucks for the rest of us.

                                                                            1. What I've read (sources below) is that alcohol affects sleep in two ways. It makes it easier to fall asleep but disrupts deep sleep.

                                                                              And the amount of disruption of REM sleep is dose related, meaning, one or two drinks may not affect REM sleep, but three drinks increases that chance of it.

                                                                              "At all doses studied, alcohol increased deep or so-called slow-wave sleep (SWS) during the first part of the night. This type of slumber is associated with healing and regeneration of bones, muscles and other tissues, as well as maintaining a strong immune system.

                                                                              "In contrast, drinking has long been known to reduce REM sleep, the deepest sleep stage in which most dreams occur and during which memories are likely stored and learning occurs...

                                                                              "One or two drinks, for example, can increase slow-wave sleep while not affecting deeper REM sleep. But more alcohol can cut into the time spent in the REM stage. So that nightcap may be helpful in getting you to doze off, while a wild night of heavy drinking is likely to make you more restless. Moderation, it seems, is the key to a good night’s sleep."

                                                                              Info Sources:
                                                                              Scientists Study How Drinking Alcohol Affects Sleep Quality
                                                                              This is Time Magazine's writeup on the following study:

                                                                              Alcohol and Sleep I: Effects on Normal Sleep
                                                                              Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research
                                                                              Volume 37, Issue 4, April 2013, Pages: 539`–549, Irshaad O. Ebrahim, Colin M. Shapiro, Adrian J. Williams and Peter B. Fenwick

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                                                                              1. re: maria lorraine

                                                                                I don't drink much anymore but when I did, this is exactly what would happen to me - I'd pass out under the weight of seriously heavy eyelids and wake up in the middle of the night.

                                                                              2. I just avoid alcohol when I know I need to get a good night's sleep.
                                                                                Waking up in the wee hours of the morning, thirsty, then going back to sleep an hour or two late, only to have crazy pizza dreams, just not worth it.

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                                                                                1. re: monavano

                                                                                  "crazy pizza dreams"

                                                                                  wow, i wouldnt mind having one of those.

                                                                                    1. re: monavano

                                                                                      Is this only with chain pizza, or any type? I eat more pizza than I should every time I get a pie, but can't remember if my dreams were ever affected!

                                                                                      1. re: coll

                                                                                        I don't know where the expression began. Maybe people had the "munchies" and ate a ton of pizza ;-)

                                                                                      2. re: monavano

                                                                                        well, that's disappointing. I thought you referring to the land of chocolate dream homer simpson had but instead of chocolate it's pizza.

                                                                                        a city made entirely of pizza....mmmmmmmm