Top 10 Manliest Cocktails
This topic came up in our home recently, and we noticed that the list varies in different parts of the country and within different age groups. So, for a male in his early 20's at a bar/club scene, what would be in your top 10 of manly mixed drinks?
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Qualifications for a manly cocktail:
1) Strong
2) Not too many ingredients
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Try a Vieux Carre- up, not on the rocks. Four types of spirits and two types of bitters.
•1 oz rye whiskey
•1 oz Cognac
•1 oz sweet vermouth
•dash Peychaud's bitters
•dash Angostura aromatic bitters
•1/2 oz Benedictine›6 Replies-
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re: ncyankee101
I don't know myself. Perhaps something else herbal and syrupy.?.?....I read about this drink in this book http://www.amazon.com/Famous-New-Orleans-Drinks-How/dp/0882891324 and then saw it and drank it from the menu here recently--> http://maisonpremiere.com/ . It's usually served on the rocks.
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I think I had the manliest drink in the world last night. A warm martini. gack! It took all my willpower to choke it down. That's what I get for talking too much and letting a beautiful drink made by a beautiful and talented bartender go bad.
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re: zin1953
By the time I surfaced from the conversation the drink was body temp. 98 degree gin is pretty rude. But I manfully forced it down. Hey, when you get into an indepth conversation about spirits history for an hour with Dave Wondrich you tend to lose track of other things, even the drink in your hand.
Weird, this reminds me of my first total drunken spree when I was in 9th grade. A friend and I took one inch from every bottle in my dads liquor closet, pour it all in a big pitcher. Then we each drank about 5-6 ounces... warm. Now THAT was actually the most rank drink. Put hair on my chest, then melted it right off again.
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Jack on the rocks
A good aged tequila for sipping
A vodka Martini with jalapeno stuffed olives
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My 27 year old son and I climbed a 11.5 k mountain here in NM today. We talk a lot while we hike. One of the topics of conversation was favorite mixed drinks. We both agreed on the mojito, "Anything w/ mint has to be good."
On the other hand, a mint julip is not "manly".
Pisco sours.
The kid is about to leave NM for Argentina on a motorcycle. that's manly. The mug doesn't fall far from the Dumkeg.
ps English majors think all authors are gay.
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re: Passadumkeg
"English majors think all authors are gay.'
Aaaah haaa, true true.
Not so sure about the Julep. Though there is that stereotyped northern view of the fey southern foppish gentleman ordering a Julep, down south, particularly in KY there ain't anything wimpy about a Julep.
It is after all whiskey and mint, nothing wimpy there.
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re: Veggo
Gotta get me a set of proper Julep cups... might have to wait for the price of silver to come down again ;-).
In fact this thread has me hankering for a Julep. Heck, I've got mint in the fridge (Belmont, MA farmer's market) and I picked up an ice crusher at a yard sale last year.
Figure that's my end of day libation today!
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That's why it became important to set the parameters, because descriptions vary according to who is reading the thread. To a man who drinks straight bourbon a "manly cocktail" 'can' be an oxymoron, it doesn't mean that it is. But I think we can all agree that there's a starting point which is what this thread is about, as we grow older and wiser we care more about what we drink and less about what it means.
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Perhaps I'm misreading several posts, but it seems that there is some agreement about a drink that Hemingway would have drunk / did drink being, ergo, manly. Really? I never quite got that impression from Hemingway. Quite the opposite, really.
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re: lifeasbinge
Hemingway unmanly? He fought in 3 wars - bronze star, silver star, wartime ambulance driver, survived 2 plane crashes, shrapnel wounds, 4 wives, 3 children, reknown hunter and fisherman, thick beard, contests for his best resemblance and literature imitations endure to this day, to say nothing of his literature? This is not manly?
Or does one have to do a Richard Simmons exercise video, or do what Pee Wee Herman did in a porno theater, to be manly these days? What IS manly these days? Define your version.
I may well be an anachronism.
I have admired Papa since I first read him in grade school, and he provided the impetus for me to donate and drive an amblulance 3070 miles from Denver to the Yucatan, and also the first fire truck in that area, to start the first life safety program there. And to spend enough time in Cuba to be an active advocate for their condition and attempt to improve it. I would not have done those things without his seed germinating in my head since I was 12.
You may find him unmanly, I don't. I was and still am inspired by the man. Part of being manly is leaving a legacy others would want to perpetuate. Let us know how you are progressing toward that end. Or maybe we'll just read about it as you leave Ernest in your dust. Again I toast to Papa Hemingway, whether daiquiri, mojito, or anything at all.
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re: Veggo
I believe lifeasbinge is less-than-subtly referring to the decades-long conjecture among some English majors that Hemingway was gay. I have no dog in this fight, so I'll add only that a Hemingway daiquiri is a lovely thing.
On a related note, I've always maintained that a truly manly man could drink something fuchsia-colored out of a coconut bedecked with flowers and a bright pink paper umbrella if he commits to it properly.
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re: Jenny Ondioline
You're exactly right. I remember reading something of his where he was just HORRIFIED by Gertrude Stein. Just a bit TOO horrified.
I find the whole subject of "manly drinks" rather hilarious. "Girls" (thanks, I guess) are generally quite oblivious to "girly" drinks, or drink "girly" drinks as an intentional stereotype, or maybe because we just like Cosmos. Gracious, I know "girls" who drink straight bourbon, smoke cigars and pipes, and even like tequila. Imagine!!!
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A "Manly" cocktail list for 2011? Let's see if the hounds agree.These are the contenders going mostly by your input for the young men of today and of course, subject to change.
1. Negroni
2. Whiskey Smash
3. Rusty Nail
4. Gimlet
5. Old Fashioned
6. Sazerac
7. Gin and Tonic
8. Captain and Coke9. Manhattan (I struggled with this one because it strikes me more as a 30'ish and above cocktail; maybe someone knows why this one reminds me of Madmen which I haven't watched since it first came out yet I'm making a connection). Or maybe the Seven and Seven might be a better choice?
10. I left out the tenth because I'm sure there are Absolute drinks that are popular with a young crowd and the names escape me, but one of these would be a strong choice for the slot.
Great feedback, let's see if I made the right inclusions here and if there are better ones to list, please post. I went with drinks that are popular today with men at a younger age.
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re: lilgi
All of the classics are booming in Sydney. Hell, I'm even making a heap of Martini's and Gibsons for people my age lately. Rye Whiskey is booming at the moment down here, any reputable bar will stock a good selection of Rye and Bourbon.
I think that list is pretty spot on for Sydney. Maybe swapping the Martini in for the Gimlet is the only change I would make.
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re: magumpa
The strange thing is a lot of the classics don't show their age but a good few of them do. Maybe this is what I see with the Manhattan but waiting to hear more on that one. Glad you approve on most of these Magumpa. (Still pondering on the swap, Martini might be more popular by you with the younger guys).
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re: StriperGuy
>>> My college era drinks were Meyer's Rum and soda (with lime) and Kamikazi's. <<<
Hmmm . . . my *pre-college* (teenage) drinks were generally red Bordeaux, California Cabernets, Zinfandels, and Sauvignon Blancs. My college drinking days (20s) saw the addition of Cognac, British ales, microbrews from the US, and a huge expansion of wines.
My 30's saw the addition of Armagnac, Calvados, Brandy de Jerez, Campari & Soda, and Single Malt Scotch Whisky, Lambic ales, and even more wines, including Sherries, Ports, Madeiras and Champagnes . . .
I didn't truly start with mixed drinks/cocktails until I was in my 40's -- Sazeracs, Martinis (Gin), Negronis, Margaritas, mostly, and it wasn't until my 50s that I began to enjoy Bourbon, Rye, Rhum Agricole, Resposado Tequila, and more.
Who knows WTF will come my way in my 60s?!?!?
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re: StriperGuy
I think you're my age Striper, and Kamikaze's were IT (yes, cubalibre also among a few others), but my son mentioned that one too, and I had to wonder if those are still popular since he didn't hear it from me. I considered it a drink that "dates" a few of us, but if those are still knocking guys out these days it should go in the tenth slot. I'll never forget how I went through those, but it was much more popular among young men. I guess I'd had it with vodka and cranberry juice by then ;)
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re: TroyTempest
Dunno, but I drank plenty of Martini's, Scotch, and IPAs. Just because you're 20-ish doesn't mean that you have to drink soft-drink or sugar based drinks, right?
If you're drinking rum and coke, you probably don't like the flavor of alcohol. That's fine, but it doesn't bring, say, Gregory Peck to mind.
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I worke with a bartender who would do these tequila shot...I think he called them stunt men..You snorted the salt, squeezed the lime in your eye and then grabbed the shot..no hands from the cleavage of a busty young 'damselle
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IMO, a Redneck Prairie Fire is a pretty manly mixed drink. It's a shot of White Dog served with a dash of Tabasco sauce...
If you can stomach a couple of those, then you'll know you're not a "Girl Drink Drunk" (see link below)...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4TGGtPzBU›2 Replies -
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Okay, brace yourself: "The Prospector." That's a shot of rye with chewing tobacco juice spat into it.
Now that takes a "man." A sick, deranged man.
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re: lilgi
well, naturally, girls wouldn't understand... ;-) [am just teasing. have watched too much anime today.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese...
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My twentyish mixers were Alabama Slammers, Bloody Mary, Singapore Slings, White Russians and Rainbows (Rum & Coke in a shot glass).
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re: lilgi
You're preaching to the choir, lilgi. For me,pop culture didn't arrive until Guns N' Roses. Then it took hold for a short & sweet period when Nirvana, Alice in Chains, etc, exploded. Also, I wanted to mention grain & kool-aid, but the OP strictly wants mixers made in a bar. Not an empty 5 gallon paint bucket in a dorm room or the campus ravine.
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re: David11238
Heck, how about Skip (or Slip) and Go Naked Punch
40 Gallon Trash Can
Fresh LinerFill with:
1 entire Keg of (cheap) beer
1.75 L grain alcohol
1.75 L rum
1.75 L gin
1.75 L vodka
10 large cans of frozen lemonade concentrate
10 large cans frozen limeade concentrate
One whole pineapple to float on topEnjoy.
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I remember being 20 - vaguely. IMHO a manly drink is whatever I'm drinking (mezcal Negronis lately). But here's the thing - it's not the drink it's the way you carry yourself. When I was a kid in London most beer was served in dimple beermugs. Without thinking I'd never hold one by the handle - I'd just wrap my hand around the mug.
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The first problem with this question is that the average man in his early twenties doesn't know enough about good liquors and cocktails to order well. The second problem is that singles bars and clubs typically don't make cocktails well but instead are going for speed above all else. The third problem is playing to stereotypes and other people's perceptions is not the way to find drinks you enjoy.
If more young guys were drinking at bars with good bartenders and were confident enough to order a Pink Lady, that would be very cool. At a serious cocktail bar, I don't think a man would need to choose a drink based on what members of the opposite sex might think.
That said, here are some stereotypical drinks for different types of young guys:
hipster: shot of Fernet with ginger ale back, pickleback (whiskey with pickle brine chaser)
finance guy: Macallan, Patron
person who actually likes cocktails: Manhattan, gin and tonic›2 Replies -
Top 5 in my bar that men tend to lean towards, especially when they are on a date are:
Old Fashioned
Manhattan
Extra Dry Tanq 10 Martini
Shave and a Haircut (Sailor Jerry, coke, topped with Stout)
Cucumber and Jalapeno Gimlet›8 Replies-
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re: magumpa
I understand where you're coming from. Unless it's a martini or something which is pretty much straight booze, I just feel ripped off at most bars. I can't tell you how many times I've had to turn back a margarita because there is barely a drop of tequila in it. I've just given up on most mixed drinks at a bar for this reason, but for the aforementioned martinis of mostly-booze drinks.
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re: lilgi
It's a term without meaning . . . unless you're talking about a cocktail containing uniquely male sex hormones. Is a woman any less of a woman because she enjoys a single malt like Laphroaig neat or a pint of Guinness or a straight espresso? Is a man any less of a man because he enjoys a -- what, a Cosmopolitan? or a light beer? or a latte?
Sorry. It's nonsense. An individual enjoys what beverage he or she enjoys because of how it appeals to our sense of smell and taste, regardless of gender.
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re: Luna2372
Ernest Hemingway would have approved. In defence of and to the credit of zin1953, he seriously knows his wine, and I enjoy reading him.
As to his query of what is a manly cocktail, it may be best described as unadorned by plastic swords of skewered fruit, umbrellas, or other frou-frou. Simple, neat. Olives are not a negative. He is on point that one can drink whatever one chooses, but some selections will indeed be noticed across the bar, and not necessarily by womanly women. FWIW.
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re: Veggo
Funny you should say that...Veggo I just finished rereading Across the River and into the Trees, for the first time in 50 years, while at camp.. The Captain(ie Hemmingway), sure knocks back the Scotch."do you think we should have one more Montgomery", as the Bits aren't around, the Contessa asks.
Volipollicella wine and Roderer Brut '42. Manly enough for me.
What a difference rereading the book in my waning years. Send the portrait and the 2 shot guns back to Maine, if I should die.Shots. Aquivit, iced Stoli, Tequilla; make that oyster shooters. Put hair on your chest.
Real tough guy, "Gimme a Boilermaker."
Ersatz tough guy, "Gimme a Slow Mexican Srew Against the Wall."
Clueless, "Gimme a Blow Job." (It exists.)-
re: Passadumkeg
On occasion I pass through Ketchum, and I toast with heavy heart at Hemingway's grave, always with drink in hand. I especially toast to him at La Bodeguita del Medio in Havana where the mojito was conceived, and La Floridita where he invented the daiquiri, according to lore.
I may or may not have shared here that when I donated the ambulance to Playa del Carmen in the Yucatan, I called it the "Hemingway effect". I was turning 50, my hair was turning white, and I had a compelling urge to drive an ambulance through a spanish-speaking country. So I did it, all 3070 miles from Denver. And yes there were adventures along the way: sabotage, the dead woman, and 55 pounds of cocaine. All this and more in 11 days, and none of it part of the plan.
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re: Veggo
Great I used to seek out the Hem bars in Europe. I just found a reference to Harry's Bar in Venice (been there) in Bourdain's Medium Raw, 15 minutes after I typed the response, last night.
"Another dry Martini. Secco, moltosecco e doppio.' THAT'S MANLY.
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re: StriperGuy
Think of me as the mom who carefully places a condom into her young son's palm and says "Be careful." When my collegebound son asked me about cosmos I whipped my head around like Linda Blair and gently said, "There are other drinks you might like better." There are plenty of lazy afternoons to be enjoyed with friends, or brunches, occasions where we all enjoy wine and champagne, and travel, where rules for umbrella drinks don't apply, but the context of the post is merely for the "club rat", and from what I vaguely remember, it was all about which girl a guy was taking home. Certain rules apply here but most of us (I hope) know that later on and in other situations the rules don't apply. If a cute gut standing next to me at a club ordered a cosmo I'd probably walk away. The laws of attraction start out by being shallow, it's the way we're built.
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re: zin1953
C'mon. We both know there are chick drinks (SotB, Sombrero, Midori Sour), ergo, I fully think there are masculine drinks. Or, drinks that are typically ordered by men. As noted above, I'm a girl who prefers drinks uncommon for my gender. I can say that with absolute certainty, having spent the better part of ten years behind various bars.
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Maybe partial credit to how the drink is ordered? I shared this anecdote here years ago. A friend was bartending at the Concord Inn in Mass in the early 70's, and John Wayne was registered for the weekend, during leaf-peeping season. As my friend was setting up after lunch, before happy hour, the slow cadence of foot steps arriving from the wood-planked breezeway caught his attention. Next, he was face-to-face with The Duke, who asked:
"How about carving me...a slice...of that.....Wild...Turkey...."›2 Replies -
The post is really just about finding out what drinks are popular among young men in a social scene these days; not necessarily the "manliest" on a scale of 1 to 10 but THE most popular drinks amongst younger men. I'd compiled a list that is most definitely too basic, but that reflects very popular choices a few decades ago. Some of the most basic drinks I'd listed were:
Rusty Nail
Seven and Seven
Gin and Tonic
Rum and Coke
Vodka and Orange JuiceI knew you hounds would come up with some good ones, but some of the stronger ones I think are questionable for drinkers in their early twenties. I'm probably one of the exceptions like Invino where the hard stuff never really bothered me. I love the additions of Negroni and Whiskey Smash. Please keep em coming!
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Here are 5 of mine. For some reason, they're all whiskey. Sadly, not all bars will know what these are.
Sazerac
Old Fashioned Old Fashioned (no muddled fruit, just spirit, sugar, water, bitters, ice and a twist)
Manhattan (with plenty of vermouth and bitters)
Rusty Nail
Whiskey SmashIf the bartender is untalented:
Single malt Scotch
Bourbon
Gin & Tonic
BeerTrue, only one of those is mixed, but there are times when you've got to punt...
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re: yarm
Fountain tonic will just about ruin a Gin & Tonic. I am surprised when a good bar will uses this. Well, actually surprised is right word. Puzzled, i guess, is more like it.
My manliest (i don't much like that classification) is a Negroni. I say it is manly because the bitterness of the Campari is a turn off to most women i know that have tried it.
But beware, when served up in a cocktail glass it looks like you're drinking a Cosmo or some other pinkish drink (which would rate low on the manly scale)-
re: TroyTempest
A nice description here, second paragraph:
http://www.askmen.com/fine_living/dri... -
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