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  • Windy Jul 6, 2011 08:48 PM
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I'll be in LA in a few weeks meeting my mother who is *not* a chowhound. Olive Garden and Cheesecake Factory suit her fine, as does staying home and eating frozen bagels with instant coffee. Maybe I was adopted.

We're staying with cousins in Brentwood, and I'll have time to visit friends in Venice and the Valley, who are more adventurous eaters but rarely go east of the 405 and are always on weird diets....

So on the one hand I've been scouring the board, looking for great, creative food from the SGV to East LA. And on the other, I'm already pushing my luck.

I have a reservation for the whole hog family dinner at Mozza, and suspect that will use up all my mom points for a year.

Planning to get to:
Musha or A-Frame (first night on my own)
Langer's
Sweet Rose Creamery

Sunday I'm hoping to get a dinner reservation for LQ@Starry Kitchen, highly praised by Porthos and others. But if not, something midrange and fun, with a girlfriend.

Would love recs for: healthy lunches, great salads, bakeries, maybe an old-fashioned breakfast or tea. Preferably in the Brentwood/Santa Monica/Westwood/WLA vicinity. Nice atmosphere, outdoor seating, takes reservations or doesn't need them all wonderful. Lemonade? Coral Tree Cafe?

I'm tempted to stop by Monte Alban since we don't have good Oaxacan in Northern California (will Mom eat mole if I tell her it's chocolate?). I love great Thai, but unlikely I'll get to Thaitown. Not looking for ramen, Indian, or Italian, and always looking for things that are better in LA than San Francisco (whatever those might be).

Highlights from my last LA trip: Kogi, Mariscos Chente, Pizzeria Mozza, the Venice farmer's market. I know LA pretty well, am not afraid to drive, and prefer snacks and ethnic food to brunch lines.

Thanks for all and any ideas.

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Pizzeria Mozza
6602 Melrose Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90038

Monte Alban
11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

Musha
424 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

Coral Tree Cafe
11645 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

Mariscos Chente
4532 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

Kogi
Los Angeles, CA, Los Angeles, CA

Sweet Rose Creamery
225 26th St #51, Los Angeles, CA 90049

A-Frame
12565 W Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90066

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  1. I'd go to Joe's in Abbot Kinney for sunday brunch. Sit on the patio. They take reservations, it's awfully pretty - and you can get something adventurous - and your mom can get something safe.

    John O' Groats on Pico for breakfast - preppy-ish yummy. Great ham and pork chops, great biscuits. They do not take reservations but if you go on a weekday you should be fine.

    I know there are some fantastic bakery cafes in SM (Huckleberry?) but have not been myself, so I'll let the SM chowhounders step in : )

    If the whole hog dinner uses up your mom points, maybe take her to an early bird dinner at Billingsley's. I've never been but I had a dear friend from Chicago, very sophisticated who would go there cuz it was so comforting and old school.

    http://www.billingsleysteakhouse.com/...

    Happy trip to you!

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    Billingsley's Restaurant
    11326 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

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    1. re: happybaker

      Thanks happybaker. I had no idea John O'Groats was still in business; we ate there at least 20 years ago (and Hugo's and Marix.)

      Joe's is a great idea; I've wanted to eat there for a long time.

      And yes, bakery cafes please. Then I'll head off to the gym.

      (BIllingsley's has a Frisco burger. I'm hiding under my computer, cringing.)

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      John O'Groats
      10516 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

      1. re: Windy

        When you get out from under your computer you might notice that walking distance from Billinglsey's is L.A.'s own "San Francisco Saloon."

        I've never understood why it's called that -- though I do go there to watch UCLA basketball games sometimes.

        1. re: PaulF

          Good burgers at SF Saloon. Decent Thai right across the street and west a bit, Chan Dara.

          1. re: Phurstluv

            Thanks--have been to Chan Dara in Hollywood and liked it, but this is much closer.

            1. re: Windy

              chan dara also offers pretty good happy hour deals.

              1. re: westsidegal

                and pretty cheap valet parking.

    2. I like Mont Alban. She may not be down with mole, but there is something for everyone there. Coral Tree Cafe is perfect for your mom, nice atmosphere, the food is 'mostly harmless' . Tavern is almost right across the street.

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      Coral Tree Cafe
      11645 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

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      1. re: AAQjr

        Thanks. What should I order at Coral Tree? My cousins always loved Regular John's, so I doubt it will be a hard sell.

        BTW it looks like Monte Alban moved a few blocks west. Last time I ate there, I could have sworn it was on the other side of the 405.

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        Coral Tree Cafe
        11645 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

        1. re: Windy

          LOL! I did too <3 But then, I was 10

          The Curried chicken sandie is safe, as is the hanger steak panini.

          Nope! same place :) Btw: if you need an espresso fix Luxxe has 3 west LA locations, which is my fav westside shot, Cafe Tomo is a new Japanese pour over/espresso/roastery with sweet potato and cheese pretzels. My favorite drip or pour over is at Conservatory for coffee (also roasts in house) across from sony in culver city [yes I know SF has great coffee, but sometimes you need a fix ;) ]

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          Tomo
          18707 Devonshire St, Northridge, CA 91324

          1. re: AAQjr

            Yes, I saw the Cafe Tomo post. It sounds great (and who can argue with sweet potato pretzels). Will add that and Luxxe to the mix.

            Venice friend had given up caffeine (again) last time I saw her :) Which means I'm likely to want a decent cup even more. Peet's on San Vicente will do for a cup of tea.

            1. re: Windy

              lol, they really didn't sound all that appealing to me! But they were good and more importantly they went well with the coffee. I still am on the fence about it to be honest, I find the cup to be more intellectually interesting than soul satisfying (don't know if that makes any sense, but that's how i feel).

              Frankly for that 10$ (~4.50 pour over) I'd rather just go to Amandine for an almond croissant and Guatemalan drip and keep the change.

            2. re: AAQjr

              Curry Chicken at Coral Tree is very good.

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              Coral Tree Cafe
              11645 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

              1. re: BSW6490

                Thanks BSW. (And once again highlighting a dish I would like and Mom would avoid.)

            3. re: Windy

              agree about Coral Tree - nothing special, but serviceable. in fact, i had lunch there today! i wanted to go to Lemonade but got overruled by the friend i was meeting :) their tuna salad (no mayo, just a light oil & vinegar dressing) isn't bad.

              my hands-down favorite salad on the Westside is still the grilled vegetable salad with shrimp at The Ivy at the Shore. pricey, yes, but absolutely worth the the occasional splurge.

              La Scala in Brentwood also does a great chopped salad. other great Westside places for salads include:
              26 Beach
              Lemonade
              Urth Caffe
              17 Street Cafe

              and if you like beets:
              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/791140

              other healthy spots:
              A Votre Sante
              Sauce on Hampton
              Figtree's Cafe
              Interim Cafe

              and i haven't been yet, but there's also the new True Food Kitchen at SM Place.

              and finally, for a special and really terrific cup of coffee, go to Funnel Mill in Santa Monica.

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              26 Beach
              3100 Washington Blvd., Venice, CA 90292

              Urth Caffe
              2327 Main St, Santa Monica, CA 90405

              A Votre Sante
              13016 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

              17th St Cafe
              1610 Montana Ave, Santa Monica, CA 90403

              Figtree's Cafe
              429 Ocean Front Walk, Venice, CA 90291

              Funnel Mill
              930 Broadway, Santa Monica, CA

              Coral Tree Cafe
              11645 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

              Interim Cafe
              530 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

              La Scala
              11740 San Vicente Blvd Ste 104, Los Angeles, CA 90049

              Sauce On Hampton
              259 Hampton Dr, Venice, CA 90291

              Lemonade
              1661 Abbot Kinney Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90291

              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                Great list, thanks. I had an awful lunch once at A Votre Sante, but otherwise haven't been anywhere here.

                Looks like I may get to squeeze in a few great coffees too. I'm starting to think the best strategy is to go out for breakfast and maybe bring in lunches....

                1. re: Windy

                  i'm sorry you had a bad lunch at A Votre Sante - ordering there is tricky, and the kitchen can be inconsistent. i used to eat there ALL the time when i lived in Brentwood (and i was a regular at the old BH location as well when it still existed and i lived around the corner). most of the time i was satisfied with what i got. of course i can do better in my own kitchen with my eyes closed and one hand tied behind my back, but hey, a girl's gotta eat out with friends sometimes and we usually want something light. but every so often they'd really drop the ball. fortunately they were always apologetic and willing to fix it or bring me something else.

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                  A Votre Sante
                  13016 San Vicente Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90049

                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                    To be fair, I had a good dinner there once too. Just haven't returned since bad lunch (whatever it was).

          2. How about Michael's in Santa Monica? They have a great patio, and the food is great and not all that challenging. You really can't go wrong there. You'll like it (the place is a legend) and I can see Mom thinking it's fancy food, but very accessible. Also open for lunch.

            And there's a place like Lawry's - feels fancy, but the food is very straight-forward.

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            1. re: foodiemahoodie

              I've been to Michael's for a fantastic dinner a million years ago. I suspect it's too fancy for Mom (who doesn't enjoy nice restaurants any more than complicated food). But not for me.

              Will add Lawry's to the research list.

              1. re: foodiemahoodie

                Michael's is a great idea.

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                Michael's Restaurant
                1147 3rd St., Santa Monica, CA 90403

              2. I believe LQ is on vacation until August so, depending on when you are planning to come down, dinner at Starry Kitchen might not be an option. If you are coming down the week of the 11th, you should be aware that the 405 will be closed from the 10 to the 101 starting (with ramps) at 7pm on the 15th and not reopening until Monday morning early.

                Some other new options worth considering are Fig & Olive (upscale med) on La Cienega & Melrose Place, Lukshon (Yang Soon's modern Asian place), Momed (modern Mediterranean), Picca (upscale Peruvian), Son of a Gun (seafood from the guys behind Animal), Spice Table (Vietnamese/Singaporean), and, as an alternative to A Frame if you can't get in or don't like the menu, Waterloo & City which is across the side street.

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                Waterloo and City
                12517 W Washington Blvd, Culver City, CA 90066

                Momed
                233 S Beverly Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90212

                Starry Kitchen
                350 S Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90071

                Lukshon
                3239 Helms Ave, Culver City, CA 90034

                Son of a Gun
                8370 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90048

                The Spice Table
                114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                Picca
                9575 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90035

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                1. re: New Trial

                  Thanks New Trial. First long weekend in August, so LQ is possible, but I'm not sure when they're going to accept reservations.

                  The 405 work even made today's NYTimes. I once walked to the Armand Hammer from Brentwood, and my cousins were appalled, as if it were somehow dangerous, or just not done.

                  Lukshon and Spice Table were on my short list (for me, though, not my family). The only time we could realistically get to Spice Table is for lunch if we go to the MOCA street art show, when they have a limited menu. Still worth it?

                  Will check out the menus for Waterloo and City and Fig & Olive too. Much appreciated.

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                  Waterloo and City
                  12517 W Washington Blvd, Culver City, CA 90066

                  Lukshon
                  3239 Helms Ave, Culver City, CA 90034

                  The Spice Table
                  114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                  1. re: Windy

                    I am fairly certain that the Pacific Dining Car on Wilshire Blvd. in Santa Monica still does their "tea" on the weekends. Very comfortable, sedate room with excellent professional service.

                    ADD: Now that I look at the website information they still do their afternoon tea and it is offered every day: http://www.pacificdiningcar.com/after...

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                    Pacific Dining Car
                    2700 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403

                    1. re: Servorg

                      That looks fun. And open 24 hours. Any idea how expensive the tea is?

                      1. re: Windy

                        I believe it's $25 pp, plus tax (or right around there)...

                  2. re: New Trial

                    We only ordered pizzas at Waterloo, but all 3 that we had were pretty bad. I'd only recommend Waterloo for their meat or cheese plates and beers. Of course, if the parents aren't very "adventurous" they probably wouldn't take to the more "exotic" and delicious pates and stinky cheeses.

                    1. re: mstinawu

                      I've always enjoyed the pizzas there-unusual toppings and all. However, the mains are generally excellent, too.

                  3. Suck it up and take your parents to Dupar's at the Farmer's Market... Musso and Frank, The Waffle... be a good son. Maybe even Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles.

                    1. Just wanted to say that I've lost points with people over mole. It seems to be very hit or miss for people, so if I was on thin ice, I probably wouldn't risk it.

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                      1. re: andytseng

                        Point well taken. I was at Nopalito here in San Francisco and ordered mole for an unsuspecting Aussie visitor.

                        She dove into the enchilada and beans and then recoiled when she realized it wasn't dessert. She might have come around to it by the end of lunch, once the shock wore off.

                      2. How about Cafe Bizou in Santa Monica. Mom can't complain, prices are reasonable and sort of comfort food. Plus corkage is only two bucks.

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                        Cafe Bizou
                        91 N Raymond Ave, Pasadena, CA 91103

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                        1. re: paprkutr

                          Happy hour martinis and fish tacos. Sounds like a win.

                        2. Trip report:

                          This thread and the many excellent recs on this board paid off in spades. Melanie saw my posts and asked if I was going to LA. So Mom went to a few restaurants and otherwise ate in. While I had many great meals and snacks all over town.

                          The tops:
                          Pastrami on rye at Langer's made everyone happy, including the four of us born in NYC. Delectable tongue, bottomless cream soda, and perfectly cooked pastrami, way east, beyond any normal westside dining radius. Great friendly service. $100 including tip fed five us of pastrami, rugelah (feh), drinks, and a rye for the road. The rare place that exceeds all expectations. (Plus I used it as an excuse to hit Art on the Streets at MoCA, also a highlight) Only chopped liver disappointed; Langer's uses beef liver--not my taste or anyone's at the table. Perhaps the best pastrami sandwich ever.

                          Musha in Santa Monica was a simple, marvelously executed dinner. Three of us shared lobster rolls, more beef tongue, tofu nuggets, risotto, kakuni, and a gorgeous komatsuna salad (a green we'd never heard of that resembles baby chard). I wasn't crazy about the famed risotto, and the potatoes and egg with the pork belly were only so so; but the pork belly and broth more than made up for it. Tongue and lobster rolls were incredible. I would eat here all the time if I lived in LA. ~$80 for 3 with tax and tip. Skip the fried tofu.

                          Sweet Rose Creamery. Musha and Sweet Rose were left over from last year's trip. I managed to hit this ice cream parlor 3 times in a long weekend. The best flavor by far was my mother's toasted coconut. My cousin refused to share her strawberry, which must have meant it was good. I also loved fresh nectarine, mint chip, and plum. (I'm forgetting something--we did manage to taste a lot of flavors.) Wasn't into sweet corn or basil, or at least I'd have preferred a palate cleaning portion for some of the flavors. And I found the waffle cones and scoops much bigger than I wanted. But so good! I'll be working that off at the gym tonight.

                          Stopped for a perfect pour-over Yergacheffe at Coffee Tomo and only resisted the ramen place next door and kiriko because I was headed to....

                          Very enjoyable:
                          Mariscos Chente's in Inglewood. This really is the edge of the world as far as my LA map goes, although it's not that far from LAX. Melanie and I shared pescado zarendeado and ceviche of raw (blue?) shrimp. Personally I preferred the ceviche to the snook, and didn't bother with the commercial tortillas for the fish. (A side of rice would be nice.) Loved the marinated onions and fish, and I ate a second portion for leftovers cold the following night. I was very glad to have company though. Dinner for two was $60 including tip, and I can't imagine eating that much fish myself, no matter how fresh.

                          The hog dinner at Mozza2Go was a mixed bag. We enjoyed the experience, but honestly, focaccia was the standout and most of the best dishes weren't pork. I would have done anything for a side of broccoli rabe...pickled carrots and peppers that came with the patés and salumi were wonderful. Tasty souffle but not sure why it was atop pork ragu. The one side of greens was overdressed. Pork loin was delicious but had too much salt to eat the skin. Milk-cooked shoulder was excellent, but came when we were already passed stuffed. I thought the giant gelato bowl was tacky--why not just put it in three bowls so they don't all melt into each other and need to be thrown away. Graham cracker pigs were delightful.

                          I was hung over the next day with a headache from so much salt. Service was friendly and accommodating, and the room is beautiful. But the food at Pizzeria Mozza I had was much better. Wines by the glass disappointed (our kind server let us taste a few) and were nearly all at the wrong temperatures--freezing rose in a bucket of ice, hot reds, too warm white. This seems like a shame considering the quality of the wine list next door, and surprisingly few that complement pork. I might come back for the tomato dinner, but might just prefer to eat at the pizzeria again.

                          We stopped in a Lemonade on Barrington after the Getty. I was craving something healthy and got the 3-salad platter with half portions, so I got to try six salads. Delicious beets with hazelnuts, pretty carrots, some kind of chicken noodles, and especially snow peas and soy beans. We also took home 4 minicupcupcakes which were beautiful and cheap ($1 each, in that hip Lemonade reusable/compostable packaging) but bland. Loved the peach ginger lemonade, and the branding. This chain is everywhere--Moca, Beverly Hills, Venice. A branch at LAX would be nice...

                          An Italian hound recommended the wine bar at Wine Expo, where we promptly ordered a flight of French champagnes. I'll have to find the notes of which grand cru/premier cru/cremant d alsace rose we drank, but this is a lovely place to taste, with happy hour from 5-7 most nights, occasional food trucks, and an anniversary discount for the next week or so on bottles next door. Great selection and prices, and you can talk to a knowledgeable server or just hang out with your friends. We were not happy with the cocktail snacks though. They're advertised as cheese and charcuterie but were more like cocktail rounds with flavored cream cheese.

                          Cappuccino at Caffe Luxe was tasty, even if the service (at Brentwood Country Mart) was a bit cool. Had an awful coconut cookie. Save your calories for next door.

                          Driving from here to there, I stopped in at Shaky Alibi on Beverly because I liked the looks of it. Unfortunately I'd just had (mediocre) brunch at Loteria Grill, and couldn't squeeze in a liege waffle or coffee. But I had a gorgeous pot of loose leaf chai and sat at the counter and watched everyone around me devour their waffles. (Are they as good as they smell? The owner is clearly devoted to his craft, and to making his patrons happy.)

                          Mixed bag:
                          I was thrilled to squeeze in A Frame after checking out reviews and the menu. Still full from Langer's but determined not to miss a dinner opportunity, we ordered kettle corn, scallop crudo with watermelon juice, assorted pickles, shiso shrimp tempura, and the market salad.

                          This is a beautiful restaurant with a great vibe and friendly, enthusiastic service. Food looked great. Still, almost none of the dishes came together, and we were mystified how this made it onto the LA Times top 100. We wanted to like this place more than we did, and it really felt like bar food rather than a restaurant; might have been better if we'd been drinking.

                          I asked for light dressing, but the salad was still drenched. Watermelon was flavorless (I had great watermelon the day before from the supermarket), as were slices of Maui onions. We were surprised kettle corn was cold, although it did grow on us. Crudo wasn't bad, but I couldn't help wishing for Mariscos Chente's ceviche. The pickles plate was just plain weird--a brown-edged Asian pear with so little flavor we weren't sure what it was. Fennel that should have been thinly sliced; nubby carrots that turned out to be radishes. The blue cheese dip was divine though, but otherwise, they should dispatch a chef to Musha to see what pickles are really about. We'd planned on dessert at A Frame, but decided our calories would be better spent at our favorite ice cream spot...

                          I also don't know why Loteria Grill made the top LA Times list. I met friends (also visiting from San Jose--my friends and family really rarely venture beyond their little LA villages :) at the Hollywood branch after failing to persuade them to go to Hugo's for brunch. Chilaquiles with chicken and tomatillo salsa (pictures below) weren't bad, but the chips were soggy, not very flavorful, boring beans--this felt like very Americanized food, and wasn't half as good as the chilaquiles I get at Pastores in San Francisco. My companions enjoyed themselves, and the full pitcher of agua frescas is a great deal. Also the French press of coffee was very good. But I wish I'd gone to Monte Alban instead.

                          The best brunch turned out to be at a friend's house, where she was throwing a Star Wars themed birthday party for her five year old. Thomas Keller quiches, kale and avocado salad, storm trooper cake pops, and incredible chocolate cake, and Yoda shortbread in my goodie bag. (No, you can't have her number. And this was the rare trip that she was eating sugar and drinking caffeine and alcohol.) Also some very exciting theatrics with Obi Wan Kenobi, a Darth Vader piñata, and a bunch of recruits waving pool noodle light sabers.

                          We truly enjoyed your lovely weather (Mom cooled down from the east coast, I warmed up from Northern Cal's endless fog), and sat out in my cousin's glorious garden and patio, eating breakfast, drinking rosé, and catching up. All was right with the world.

                          As we were leaving for the airport this morning, I looked across Bundy Drive and saw....a taco truck. Could not believe my eyes, especially since we'd abandoned plans to catch the Rebel truck yesterday when it drove by us on a grilled cheese mission. Mom had a flight to catch, but Melanie gamely headed across the street. I'll let her fill in the rest.

                          Thank you all for such great tips. We observed how much better restaurant service was than up here in San Francisco: warm, friendly, and competent without a lot of attitude. Maybe it was the places I chose, but I appreciated it none the less. A few pics follow.

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                          Langer's Delicatessen
                          704 S Alvarado St, Los Angeles, CA 90057

                          Monte Alban
                          11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

                          Loteria Grill
                          6333 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90036

                          Musha
                          424 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

                          Wine Expo
                          2933 Santa Monica Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90404

                          Pizzeria Mozza
                          641 N. Highland Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90036

                          Sweet Rose Creamery
                          225 26th St #51, Los Angeles, CA 90049

                          Shaky Alibi
                          7401 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036

                          Coffee Tomo
                          11309 Mississippi Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90025

                          Mariscos Chentes/Coni'Seafood
                          3544 W Imperial Hwy, Inglewood, CA 90303

                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                          10 Replies
                          1. re: Windy

                            Wow!

                            Impressive review!! It's always interesting to see things from an visitors point of view

                            Thanks

                            1. re: AAQjr

                              Excellent. And I'm forgetting that sweet potato pretzel at Coffee Tomo, definitely among the odder snacks I've had with coffee lately. I imagined a pretzel made of sweet potatoes.

                              But it's actually a potato bread, stuffed with mozzarella and sugar, knotted into a wreath and served warm. And you're right: coffee plus pretzel was $11. At least it was a big cup.

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                              Coffee Tomo
                              11309 Mississippi Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90025

                              1. re: Windy

                                I thought the same thing! lol, Odd but they were tasty and did go better than i thought they might with the coffee

                            2. re: Windy

                              Great report! I agree, the wine selection at the Mozza2go dinners is a weak link. It's a perfect BYOB event.

                              Far be it for me to talk you out of going to Pizzeria Mozza and exploring more of the al forno dishes.

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                              Pizzeria Mozza
                              641 N. Highland Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90036

                              1. re: Porthos

                                Corkage was $30 at Mozza2Go! Was extra disappointed because I'd talked my teetotaling cousin into driving.

                                I should note I didn't get to LQ@Starry Kitchen (not open this weekend) or a number of other exciting newish places (Spice Table, Picca) that were closed Sundays. We almost went to Spice Table for lunch yesterday since we were at MoCA Geffen, but I'm sure glad we stuck to plan and caravan-ed to Langer's.

                                I did find a Sunday Moroccan dinner feast at The Little Door that will have to wait for the next trip.

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                                Little Door
                                8164 West 3rd Street, Los Angeles, CA 90048

                                The Spice Table
                                114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                                Picca
                                9575 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90035

                                1. re: Windy

                                  You're spoiled from being in SF :)

                                  You'll definitely have to do LQ next visit. No corkage fee.

                                  Spice Table is another must. Short but quality beer selection.

                                  Picca is on my list also.

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                                  The Spice Table
                                  114 S. Central Avenue, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

                                  Picca
                                  9575 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90035

                              2. re: Windy

                                Thanks for the report back. Langer's Deli is my favorite too. So glad their heavenly pastrami didn't disappoint.

                                1. re: wienermobile

                                  Now I'm sorry I didn't armwrestle my mother for the rest of the rye.

                                  Katz's could take a few lessons in pastrami sandwiches (and service) from Langer's.

                                2. re: Windy

                                  Great report! Not totally sure why, but it warms my heart a bit when people come down and have such a pleasant food experience.

                                  1. re: andytseng

                                    Happy to oblige. Years ago, I lived in Newport Beach for a quarter, and remember being surprised that the best tacos were in a mini-mall by the laundromat.

                                    Sometimes it's hard to get visitors to go beyond the obvious.