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Sancho_Villa Jul 6, 2011 04:16 PM

Cut , Wolfgang's or Mastro's? Money is no object.

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Mastros Restaurant
2087 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Thousand Oaks, CA 91362

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    Hackenbush Jul 10, 2011 12:36 AM

    I was disappointed with Cut the one time I went there. Maybe we got an outlier. That happens at all restaurants.

    I would rate the steak at Wolfgang's and Mastro's about the same but I much preferred the side dishes at Wolfgang's (especially the German fried potatoes) and the atmosphere. The times I've been to Mastro's, it's been too noisy and we had to wait and the tables were too crammed together. We really felt a sense of having to eat and get out.

    So I would definitely vote for Wolfgang's. I don't think I'll ever go back to Mastro's because I can't think of a single reason why I should.

    Taylor's down in Koreatown is good for what it is, which is a cheaper steak that doesn't try to be the greatest thing you ever tasted. I'm not knocking it but when I go there, I'm more inclined to have some kind of fish.

    The steaks at Musso-Frank's are very good. I'm usually tempted by other things on their menu but whenever I've had a steak there, I've enjoyed it. Get it with their thick french fries (they have two kinds, steak fries and skinny ones) and tell them you want the fries well done. Musso-Frank's, by the way, recently redesigned its menu and took off a few signature items.

    But if money is no object, I pick Wolfgang's.

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    Mastros Restaurant
    2087 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Thousand Oaks, CA 91362

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      Harry Niletti Jul 8, 2011 11:51 PM

      Don't like CUT. I can overlook the hipnoid food-carriers, the lavishly overpriced sides, and the -- what do we call it nowadays? -- something something "sourced" and sustainably "curated" grease-pot Wagyū .... Wait a minute. If I can ignore all that, then I must love the place! Never mind.

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        xoxohh Jul 8, 2011 06:46 PM

        Just went to Wolfgang's a couple nights ago. Great Porterhouse for two. Caesar salad was very nice, onion rings wonderful...I'd pass on the steak fries, too mushy for my taste.

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          OC Mutt Jul 8, 2011 07:07 PM

          I've tried Wolfgangs in NYC (haven't tried the BH location), and the steak is delicious. I'd pass on the "famous" bacon, it's very over-rated, but I liked the German potatoes and the onion rings too. As for Cut, it's excellent in every respect but dessert, which I found so lacking that I didn't bother to order it. The pretzel rolls are the best I've ever had and even the butter is amazing. The only thing missing with Cut is that overstuffed feeling one gets from a night out of carnivorous debauchery at a steakhouse, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.

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          Bradbury Jul 7, 2011 09:10 PM

          I'm inclined to agree with most above and say Cut. Though, for those times when price is a (slight) object and I need a garlic fix, I still have a soft spot for the Chimichurri Ribeye at Carlitos Gardel...

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          Carlitos Gardel
          7963 Melrose Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90046

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            BSW6490 Jul 8, 2011 04:22 PM

            Go to Dan Tana's with your girlfriend. Great steaks, great drinks and vibe. Sit on the bar side.

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            Dan Tana's Restaurant
            9071 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90069

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              Bradbury Jul 9, 2011 12:27 AM

              Careful, my wife might be reading this... ;-)

          2. A5 KOBE Jul 7, 2011 10:24 AM

            CUT

            Steak, lobster, shorts ribs, wagyu are all great. Banana cream pie is killer. Apps were excellent. Felt that the sides were a hit or miss.

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              monopod Jul 7, 2011 08:47 AM

              It's not a "steakhouse," but Craft has amazing steaks as well as amazing everything else. That'd be my go-to for a steak, personally.

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                mc michael Jul 7, 2011 06:44 AM

                Cut.
                But when the best steak is venison: Josie.
                http://www.josierestaurant.com/enterm...

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                Josie
                2424 Pico Blvd., Santa Monica, CA 90405

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                  Jwsel Jul 6, 2011 08:19 PM

                  I mentioned this in another thread, but I was very surprised last week when I tried Larsen's Steakhouse in Encino. The bone-in ribeye was spectacular. They dry age their steaks for 4-6 weeks and cook them at a lower temperature than most places so the steak is incredibly tender and flavorful. It was not at all what I expected. I only agreed to go because someone pointed me to an article in the Beverly Hills Examiner that named it the best steak in the city (with the same grade as Cut, though I noticed Mastro's and Wolfgang's were not included).

                  The only other steak I've had in the past few years that was comparable was the American Wagyu porterhouse at Cut. That was an amazing steak. Cut also has far superior appetizers and sides (though i did prefer Larsen's decadent creamed spinach).

                  I will also add that the Larsen's steak was much better than the American Wagyu strip that I had at the Las Vegas branch of Cut in May.

                  I also highly recommend the Cote de Bouef at Melisse, but it's not a steakhouse by any stretch.

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                  Larsen's Steakhouse
                  16101 Ventura Blvd, Encino, CA 91436

                  1. ipsedixit Jul 6, 2011 08:09 PM

                    Cut for nouveau avant-garde type of steakhouse. With Nick & Stef's a distant second.

                    Wolfgang's for your traditional, leather booths steakhouse.

                    1. Phurstluv Jul 6, 2011 06:38 PM

                      Not loved by the board since it's corporate, but we had great steaks at BOA in SaMo.

                      CUT is supposed to have killer side dishes as well. About ten years ago, my answer would have been Ruth Chris', they have possible perfected the process. But I have not tried Wolfgang's or Maestros.

                      You can weed through the other links that J.L. has provided. I prefer to type out my recs instead of doing a search for others, cuz that's how I roll.

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                        Sancho_Villa Jul 6, 2011 06:51 PM

                        Thanks Phurstluv. I've been to Boa.
                        But i want to try a place i haven't been to. My girlfriend lost a bet & the rules were any steakhouse in L.A. Ahh decisions...

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                          goodhealthgourmet Jul 6, 2011 07:05 PM

                          go to CUT. i love Craft but it's not really a steakhouse, and Mastro's is an overrated disappointing waste of money.

                          this thread may be more helpful:
                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/790569

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                            wienermobile Jul 6, 2011 07:08 PM

                            I like Cut. The side dishes are even better than the steaks and those steaks are pretty darn good.

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                            Cut
                            9500 Wilshire Blvd., Beverly Hills, CA 90212

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                              Phurstluv Jul 6, 2011 07:41 PM

                              You're right, Craft is not exclusively a steak house. EVERYTHING we have ever ordered there has been exceptional.

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                                Sancho_Villa Jul 6, 2011 07:53 PM

                                @GHG Thanks for the insight.
                                I think i am gonna go with Cut. I still want to try Mastro's & Wolfgang at some point. Just to check 'em off the list.

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                                Mastros Restaurant
                                2087 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Thousand Oaks, CA 91362

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                                  goodhealthgourmet Jul 6, 2011 08:20 PM

                                  good choice.

                                  i haven't made it to Wolfgang's yet, but i trust the Hounds who have recommended it in this and other threads so that's something for you to look forward to...and when the time comes to try another one, you might want to consider BLT Steak. i haven't been to the LA location, but the original in NYC is terrific.

                                  i've stated my position on Mastro's - three strikes so it's permanently out - but i'll be interested to hear your feedback if you eventually go.

                                  oh, and welcome to Chowhound!

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                                    Sancho_Villa Jul 6, 2011 08:34 PM

                                    Just looked up BLT Steak. Sounds d-lishous. Again thanks for the info.

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                                      Servorg Jul 7, 2011 06:50 AM

                                      Cut is a great choice. Another non steak house choice (if you like old school) would be Dan Tana's and getting their "Dabney Coleman" steak.

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                                      Dan Tana's Restaurant
                                      9071 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90069

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                                        foodiemahoodie Jul 9, 2011 03:52 AM

                                        I agree with Servorg. Dan Tana's has a LOT of character and a surprising, shockling-good steak. (great "lamb chops" too). Nothing else is terribly interesting unless you're so high and so hungry that "passable" is good enough.

                                        I've had the steak there at least 20 times and each time I think "I must be delusional, it won't be as good as I remember" and one bite and damn, there it is, possibly the best steak in town. (And I've been to Nic and Stef's, Cut, Mastro's, Wolfgang, Arnie Mortons and lesser beef-oriented bistros), and all are good, but I prefer Dan Tana's. (Angelini Osteria has the "Harvey's Guss" Grilled Bistecca alla Fiorentina "for Two" Finished in the Wood Oven with Grilled Radicchio and Roasted Potatoes $75 - which I can highly recommend. Damn, it's late, I'm sleep and hungry, and that sounds SO good...)

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                                        Dan Tana's Restaurant
                                        9071 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90069

                                        Mastros Restaurant
                                        2087 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Thousand Oaks, CA 91362

                          2. J.L. Jul 6, 2011 06:31 PM

                            A simple search of this board yields the following results; you'll see that you're by no means the first person to ask this question...

                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/79544
                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/75383
                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/74193
                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/65917
                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/80580

                            My answer: Mastro's: Get the bone-in filet or bone-in ribeye.
                            Wolfgang's: 2nd best steakhouse in L.A. Think Peter Luger West. Best porterhouse in L.A.
                            CUT screwed up my steak and didn't apologize or make amends. Twice.
                            Craft & Jar: Very good. Consistent.
                            Arroyo Chophouse, Ruth's Chris, Boa, Arnie Morton's, Fleming's, Nic & Stef's: Meh.
                            PDC (Downtown): Old school, and very good
                            PDC (Santa Monica): Skip
                            Palm: Awful

                            New category, in case you're curious:
                            Japanese steak: Totoraku, by a landslide. Best bites of beef in L.A... Period.

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                              Porthos Jul 6, 2011 07:19 PM

                              JL. With regards to your poor CUT experience. Was it the 6 oz Kobe or Wagyu? Looking through all the "over cooked" CUT steak posts, I'm guessing that was the problem. I would recommend anyone ordering the Kobe or Wagyu to add at least 2 oz. Given the size of a 6 oz steak, it is almost impossible to get a nice crust on both sides AND get a 6 oz steak medium rare. Ever wonder why there are no over cooked steak complaints at Peter Luger? Because every steak is a steak for 2 and of uniform size.

                              I anticipated this problem and made my an 8oz. Both my 8 oz wagyu and my dry aged rib eye were perfectly medium rare on a packed Saturday night.

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                                Phurstluv Jul 6, 2011 06:54 PM

                                I now remember I have to +1 on Craft - exceptional bone in, dry aged rib eye on Father's Day, with the marrow bone on the plate - AWESOME!! And though I rec'd the sides at CUT (I haven't been yet, take w a grain of kosher salt) the sides at Craft were INCREDIBLE!! I'm talking simple things (corn, mushrooms, 3 salads) we were blown away. Worth the drive to Century City, IMHO.

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                                  OC Mutt Jul 6, 2011 07:22 PM

                                  Agreed on The Palm, it's awful. It doesn't even belong in this conversation.

                                2. scottca075 Jul 6, 2011 06:14 PM

                                  Nick and Stef's, Pacific Dining Car, The Palm West Hollywood, BOA, Musso & Frank, La Bistecca, Jar, Taylor's Steakhouse.... take your pick and throw in Fleming's and Arnie Morton's too.

                                  Of the three you listed, Cut is my favorite.

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                                  3361 West 8th Street, Los Angeles, CA 90005

                                  Pacific Dining Car
                                  1310 W 6th St, Los Angeles, CA 90017

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                                    Sancho_Villa Jul 6, 2011 06:22 PM

                                    Thanks Scott. Im having trouble deciding, leaning towards Cut. But Im kinda interested in Wolfgang's.

                                    Nik & Stef's is definitely one of my favs. Boa was good. The Palm was forgettable. PCD is ok, i usually skip the steak and order breakfast. As for the rest i've yet to try them.

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                                      rainey Jul 6, 2011 07:55 PM

                                      Certainly not Flemings! A reservation is meaningless and there's no place provided to wait either. The dining rooms are crowded and incredibly noisy. The food isn't bad but it isn't notable either.

                                      If it's for a special occasion skip Flemings.

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                                        Luna2372 Jul 6, 2011 09:05 PM

                                        Have you ever been to Musso & Frank? I have only heard stories about it and would love to hear about it.

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                                          maxzook Jul 6, 2011 09:21 PM

                                          I am a huge fan of Musso and Frank, but to be honest it really doesn't belong on the price-is-no-object list. It's a great place to breathe in Hollywood history, to have a classic Martini and order from a menu that hasn't substantially changed in fifty years. The steaks are very good for the price, but they aren't trying to be at the level of a Cut or a Wolfgang's.

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                                            Luna2372 Jul 7, 2011 12:04 AM

                                            Ok....as someone who has never been to any of those places, but has a huge respect for the the difference between tradition and and let's call it "New" or "Modern" food trends, I think you are saying that Musso & Frank is of a less pricey genre?

                                            But does it give you a grea feeling being there? I do count that as an important part of knowing about a place.

                                            Or is it a touristy place with no soul?

                                            I only ask because I'm hoping to talk my brother into a trip there this winter and having a few "special Old School Places" would make us truly happy.

                                            Thank you for taking the time to respond to this.

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                                              Tom P Jul 7, 2011 08:45 AM

                                              It is not touristy at all. At all. Musso's and Taylor's in Koreatown both have a wonderful Old School vibe.

                                              Another one I love is the Dal Rae in Pico Rivera. The food is top notch and talk about an incredible vibe. Some friends of mine and I are addicted to the place and go two or three times a year.

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                                              9023 E. Washington Blvd., Pico Rivera, CA 90660

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                                                reality check Jul 7, 2011 09:48 AM

                                                Huge fan of Dal Rae. They are usually a part of Dine-LA.

                                                But, I've gone to Taylor's in K-Town four times, not always by choice, and I think the quality of their steaks have gone downhill. I don't deny, they have an old school vibe but the quality has seen better days.

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                                                9023 E. Washington Blvd., Pico Rivera, CA 90660

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                                                  JosephEBacon Jul 8, 2011 04:38 PM

                                                  Another vote for Taylor's from me. I've never been disappointed and it's a good value too!

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                                                  rainey Jul 7, 2011 11:28 AM

                                                  Soooo not touristy! That isn't to say that tourists may not be there -- if they're smart enough to know what's worth seeing -- but this place is among a handful of places left that are genuinely *real* Los Angeles and old Hollywood.

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                                                    maxzook Jul 7, 2011 05:05 PM

                                                    There are two reasons why going to Musso and Frank's gives me a good feeling (okay, three, if you count that it's my girlfriend's favorite restaurant.)

                                                    1. The place breathes Hollywood history. The first time I went there was in 1977 as the guest of the game show producer Ralph Edwards, who had lunch there every day at a table with a phone directly connected to his office in case an emergency came up.

                                                    Musso's was especially known as a hangout of all the great Hollywood writers of the Golden era ... Dorothy Parker, William Faulkner, Raymond Chandler, Herman Mankiewicz ... and I doubt you could come up with a star or director of that era who didn't dine there.

                                                    The current owners have done a marvelous job of restoring the place and keeping it up without losing the '30s flair.

                                                    2. I've been ragged on this forum for saying it, but I think the food is underrated. And it's especially good for the cost. You can't go wrong with any of the daily specials, or salads. The flannel cakes (before 3 pm) are legendary. And I'm particularly a fan of their mac and cheese. I'm not a drinker, but I'm told the bartender pours a mean classic Martini.

                                                    If you're into the gastronomic fads of the moment, this is not the place for you. But how many tablecloth restaurants do you know that still have Jello and rice pudding on the menu?

                                                    As I said upthread, this isn't Cut or Craft. And I'm glad of that 'cause I couldn't afford to go to those places as often as I find myself at Musso's.

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                                                      Luna2372 Jul 9, 2011 11:56 PM

                                                      Crap...now I feel like I am leaking some kind of secret out into the ethers..

                                                      *makes voodoo fingers*

                                                      Forget this thread...forget this thread...woooOOo

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                                                        mc michael Jul 10, 2011 09:41 AM

                                                        Speaking of writers, more recently Michael Connelly has spoken highly of Musso's martinis in his novels.

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                                                          New Trial Jul 10, 2011 04:22 PM

                                                          He also included a meal at JAR in one of his novels. Bosch loves being introduced to the pot roast...though, as a Detective, you would think he would prefer his food grilled.

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                                                          Tom P Jul 10, 2011 02:52 PM

                                                          I also LOVE the mac n cheese. Wow. And the Sanddabs... so good.

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                                                          foodiemahoodie Jul 9, 2011 03:42 AM

                                                          Musso's; not about the food.

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                                                          Tom P Jul 7, 2011 08:44 AM

                                                          I have to say I think they have a pretty stellar filet. Of course I am biased, I absolutely love the place. The pork chops are incredible as well.

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                                                          wienermobile Jul 7, 2011 08:47 AM

                                                          Love Musso's Thursday night Chicken Pot Pie special.

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                                                            rainey Jul 7, 2011 11:31 AM

                                                            My husband used to work for Stephen Cannell (21 Jump Street, The A Team, etc) a few blocks down the street from Musso's. Thursday afternoon the call went down the hall "CPP!!!" and people shot out of the building and started hiking down Hollywood Blvd. to Musso's for Chicken Pot Pie.

                                                            My husband always said it was the only chicken pot pie besides mine that he ever wanted. Thanks for the happy memory.

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