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Masterchef tonight [spoilers]

itryalot Jul 5, 2011 06:50 PM

Just watched Joe B humiliate a contestant who admittedly said he got caught up in breading that he forgot about plating and the rest of the task. Not impressed with that.

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  1. Shrinkrap RE: itryalot Jul 5, 2011 07:21 PM


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      itryalot RE: Shrinkrap Jul 6, 2011 11:23 AM

      I contributed to that thread, but felt tonight with the hands digging into someone else's plate, took it to the next level (beyond tone, look, stance and words).

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        Shrinkrap RE: itryalot Jul 6, 2011 06:11 PM


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        LindaWhit RE: Shrinkrap Jul 6, 2011 11:37 AM

        The problem with that thread is it still has the 6/20 date on it so people would tend to think it only relates to that episode (as we usually do for Top Chef). If the subject line was changed, we could keep all comments about MC on it.

        Just a thought.

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          Shrinkrap RE: LindaWhit Jul 6, 2011 06:11 PM

          agreed, but I am WAY lazier than you, soooooo.......

      3. chris2269 RE: itryalot Jul 5, 2011 08:30 PM

        I will be watching shortly. It is funny to me how the Chef/Judges on the Australian, NZ and even the English version are more mentors and later even friends to most of the contestants. While we get D bags on our version. We have a great country but our TV sucks IMO.

        1. C. Hamster RE: itryalot Jul 6, 2011 05:28 AM

          But the plating and the rest of the task was very key in this challenge.

          Sign up for actuality show = sign up for embarrassment and humiliation.

          That said, he's been an ass on this show. Joe is designated bad cop and Jumbo white glasses guy is good cop. Gordo is the decider.

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            chris2269 RE: C. Hamster Jul 6, 2011 06:11 AM

            Joe is designated bad cop and Jumbo white glasses guy is good cop. Gordo is the decider.

            You nailed it.

          2. LindaWhit RE: itryalot Jul 6, 2011 11:36 AM

            Quite frankly, when I saw that, I said aloud "Joe B. is a complete dooshnozzle for doing that."

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              NellyNel RE: LindaWhit Jul 7, 2011 07:14 AM

              I dvr the show and am a few episodes behind....last night I watched the dessert challenge episode .
              I have to say, I thought all 3 judges were unnecessarily harsh! Yikes! With Joe B being the standout. I was actually uncomfortable watching it.

              Critique is one thing, but humiliation is another.

              I also have to say, that I actually do believe Joe is not putting on an act for tv - I bet he is an absolute nightmare to work for!! (purely speculation of course - who knows really)

              Not on topic, but I was absolutely gutted the booted the molecular guy!!!(Alvin??)
              The guy was ambitious and he should have gotten kudos for that.
              I was looking forward to seeing what else he had in store. To keep the lady with the gross tart over him (which is a MUCH simpler technique) is a travesty!

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              Worldwide Diner RE: itryalot Jul 7, 2011 09:43 AM

              I agree that Joe was a little harsh on Adrien (waiter with hispanic background), who didn't plate like the example. He also shocked the heck out of Ben (why don't you cook like that all the time?). If you don't remember Ben, he's the travel writer who always wears a good chef hat. Christian (the stay at home dad from Mass) was defensive during the mystery box challenge but I can share his view. I really didn't know what made his dish the worst? He then won the elimination challenge with his fried catfish. Esther the face making Asian from LA declares she doesn't eat catfish, especially fried (really, what a b!tch). And then there's the Indian lady who thinks she's better than everyone but hasn't really backed it up yet. I'm rooting for Christian now...he's a bit cocky but not mean spirited. Oh, the woman from Florida continues to flake out....

              1. Disneyfreak RE: itryalot Jul 7, 2011 10:05 AM

                I think Joe B is a schmoe. It turned me off during the tryouts of the first season so I didn't watch. This time my kids are into the show so we are watching but it seems weird to see someone other than Gordon be a jerk. It's enough to make me not want to visit any of the "many many" restaurants he talked about owning.

                I do like his mother though.

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                  Worldwide Diner RE: Disneyfreak Jul 7, 2011 10:20 AM

                  I don't know exactly what Joe does in that partnership, but I wouldn't give up eating Batali's food just because his partner acts like a douche on TV.

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                    itryalot RE: Disneyfreak Jul 9, 2011 08:55 PM

                    Watched Joe's mom, Lidia in action today on PBS and all I kept thinking is how much I enjoy her show and how much I learn. She is straight and to the point and has a no nonsense approach without coming off like she knows as much as she does. One of my girlfriend's theory is that he fell into the "slimmed down" attitude of when one loses a lot of weight, the persona changes and not always for the good. I would like to think this is not the case, that he has developed that. I do hear that his partner, Mario, can be of the same tone.
                    This is all heresay.

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                    jjjrfoodie RE: itryalot Jul 11, 2011 07:10 PM

                    Felt compelled to watch the 9pm airing of the latest MasterChef episode tonite.

                    Watched up til the catering showdown where while the judges were in the kitchen looking over the chefs, Joe B. decided to dip his unwashed finger into the just finsihed big batches of one of the cold Gazpacho's for a taste, Then he sucked his finger and went in again, then he sucked his finger a second time and dipped a third, and I presume tasted it again although the editing cut it after the dipping.

                    Srsy. It's a cold Gazpacho and ur dipping your nasty hand into it. This even after the last -go round where Graham had to give you a spoon.

                    To quote Mike from teh "Jersey Shore"..."You're a dirty little f''n hamster."

                    Just f&%^g ewwww.

                    An uncooked dish fingered ad nauseum and then sent out to an unsuspecting tasting audience. Well done. I do suggest Cipro at the ready tho.

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                      Worldwide Diner RE: jjjrfoodie Jul 11, 2011 08:14 PM

                      I hear that he visits all of his restaurants in NYC everyday and sample people's food with his fingers. You should probably avoid all of his restaurants at all cost.

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                        LindaWhit RE: jjjrfoodie Jul 13, 2011 10:01 AM

                        I saw that last night as well, and couldn't believe that they continue to show that. Ramsay bitches to whats-her-face to clean up her station in his London/Hollywood kitchen while she's making profiterole dough, and yet Joe B. does this? I'd be a helluva lot more happy with a floury station than with Joe's finger in the gazpacho.

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                          C. Hamster RE: LindaWhit Jul 13, 2011 10:55 AM

                          Whatherface would be Esther, aka "Eeyore." Whoever here cioned that nickname is a genius. She is the spittin image of him.

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                            LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Jul 13, 2011 03:37 PM

                            That's it. I was SO glad to see her go. The thing is, I *like* Eeyore. Didn't like Esther. :-/

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                              Worldwide Diner RE: LindaWhit Jul 14, 2011 10:55 AM

                              Esther is very annoying, more so than the 18 year punk in my opinion. Anyhow, I don't recall the first season having so many douchebags. After they boot out the Indian woman and the overly dramatic Christine, I think this show will settle down and focus more on cooking skills.

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                                LindaWhit RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 14, 2011 01:15 PM

                                Nope, I'd take Esther over cocky punky Max any day.

                                But yes - Christine is yet another who needs to be gone - before someone drops a house on her!

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                                  C. Hamster RE: LindaWhit Jul 14, 2011 01:30 PM

                                  Is Christine the one who cries all the time?

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                                    LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Jul 14, 2011 03:44 PM

                                    Swears. Like a dockworker. They bleeped her about 5-6 times in a row on this last episode. She also pitches fits. Which prompts the swearing. :-)

                                    Long blond hair, from Sopchoppy, FL. (I love that town name!)


                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                      The Dairy Queen RE: LindaWhit Jul 14, 2011 05:46 PM

                                      She's really profane. And kind of a princess. I don't like her.


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                                        LurkerDan RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 14, 2011 09:33 PM

                                        She is all those things, and my SO doesn't like her. But there's something about her that I like, not sure why.

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                                          The Dairy Queen RE: LurkerDan Jul 14, 2011 09:40 PM

                                          Well, she IS very determined. Isn't she the single mom?


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                                            rockycat RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 15, 2011 06:09 AM

                                            As they keep reminding us. Over and over again.

                                            My mother was a single mom who worked part-time as a bar maid (and a hospital volunteer) and I never heard a single rude word out of her mouth. Yes, it takes a lot to be single parent of any gender but unfortunately it's not that uncommon now. I'm not sure why they choose that tag to be her primary identity. Oh wait, yes I do know. This is Fox.

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                                        chowser RE: LindaWhit Jul 15, 2011 09:58 AM

                                        I feel bad for her child. What is she teaching him/her? Definitely not grace under pressure.

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                                          NellyNel RE: chowser Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM

                                          She also seems to like her drink!

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                                            The Dairy Queen RE: chowser Jul 15, 2011 06:00 PM

                                            Funnily enough, it was Whitney's incredible poise under pressure that I found so appealing.


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                                              chowser RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 15, 2011 06:53 PM

                                              Especially at her age.

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                                                The Dairy Queen RE: chowser Jul 15, 2011 06:57 PM

                                                Pretty amazing, I thought. She won me over at the finale.


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                              UptownKevin RE: jjjrfoodie Jul 15, 2011 03:52 PM

                              If you saw what really happens in most restaurant kitchens, you'd probably never dine out! That being said, I also think it's a huge turnoff. I wouldn't want to eat that...

                            3. Sandwich_Sister RE: itryalot Jul 15, 2011 01:27 PM

                              I guess I am the only one who likes Christine from Florida. She's a fighter who is passionate. A little crazy and swears like a sailor but she's passionate and has proved herself on the block.

                              her erratic behavior may be why she is always on the block though.

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                                smartie RE: itryalot Jul 15, 2011 03:10 PM

                                what exactly does it mean to be Fox's Masterchef and win all that money? A book deal? Just not sure why it guarantees a big pay out.

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                                  chicgail RE: smartie Jul 16, 2011 07:16 AM

                                  Other than the book that Whitney published, I don't know what she's doing with her life. Is she cooking professionally? Is there an opportunity for her to do that?

                                  I think this show (it is on FOX) is little more than an opportunity for those people who want their 15 minutes on Reality TV and who happen to be able to cook.

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                                    LindaWhit RE: chicgail Jul 16, 2011 07:22 AM

                                    I thought I read that Whitney and her mother have opened a small restaurant in her home town, so I'd believe she used the winnings to do so.

                                    She's also blogging. http://whitneymillermc.blogspot.com/

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                                      chris2269 RE: chicgail Jul 17, 2011 12:44 PM

                                      The Fox version is a pretty poor representation of what the show can do. On the OZ version almost every contestant in the top 6 has gone on to start a food related career. IMO the American version sucks. Though I did not think Whitney was looking for 15 mins. of fame.

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                                        Sandwich_Sister RE: chris2269 Jul 17, 2011 12:59 PM

                                        I like Whitney and she just so happened to be such a young winner. Someone the judges thought didn't have a chance of winning.

                                        She has a cookbook now, but she has a lot of growing still to do.

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                                    Worldwide Diner RE: itryalot Jul 19, 2011 06:50 AM

                                    My Fios is out of service, couldn't watch Hell's Kitchen, No Reservation, and Master Chef last night. I'll miss Bizarre Food tonight. So I read Christian almost got the boot because he started tasting his own lobster dish even though his wasn't in the top 3. I think that's hilarious and why waste food by throwing it away?

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                                      C. Hamster RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 07:30 AM

                                      It wasnt funny; it was disrespectful and arrogant. He thinks he's *All That* but he's just so not.

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                                        Worldwide Diner RE: C. Hamster Jul 19, 2011 07:57 AM

                                        He's been consistently good though. Being that he's from Boston, I bet his lobster actually did taste really good. I can't comment on his disrespectfulness or arrogance but I don't think any of the judges in their "roles" really deserve much respect. I wouldn't disrespect them in real life but they sure act like douchebags at times on TV.

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                                          LindaWhit RE: C. Hamster Jul 19, 2011 06:22 PM

                                          Yeah, I just watched last night's episode, and he's gone WAY beyond cocky with his attitude. I like most of the dishes he puts out; I'm *not* liking the attitude. I was glad to see Giuseppe get a top dish for his truffle dish. Floored that Jennifer stayed *in* the Elimination Challenge and almost didn't make it through. But I figured it was Erryn. Impressive he stepped forward to leave.

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                                          chicgail RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 08:03 AM

                                          What was up with the infomercial for the Masterchef knive? Eeeuuww.

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                                            rockycat RE: chicgail Jul 19, 2011 08:05 AM

                                            Right. Followed shortly thereafter by the infomercial for Henkel knives on HK. I've got nothing against Henkel, I own them and I like them. Still, I get the feeling that Gordo would shill Ginsu knives for the right price.

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                                            LurkerDan RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 08:33 AM

                                            His behavior was pretty disrespectful. Nobody said the food had to go to waste and be thrown away, all he had to do was sit there and wait a bit. He sometimes seems likable, and he seems a good cook, but he can't give other people any credit, which makes him seem like a d-bag.

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                                              shesallthat RE: LurkerDan Jul 19, 2011 12:04 PM

                                              It was so obvious when the camera zeroed in on the Global knife. What can we expect next week...a close up of Glad Wrap? Both Joe and Gordon are very disrespectful yet though wont tolerate it in others. I'm not seeing any clear winners on this show...most are inconsistent except for Christian but they hate him.

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                                                Worldwide Diner RE: shesallthat Jul 19, 2011 01:03 PM

                                                Just watched that segment online. First, I don't know why Christian can't eat his lobster. Second, I don't know why Christian has to listen to Elliot. Third, I don't know why Christian has to respect his fellow competitors. Fourth, I don't think all his fellow competitors respect him. Five, Joe is the one who disrespects the competitors. All in all, looks like contrived dramatics.

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                                                  Cheese Boy RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 01:15 PM

                                                  The answer is ... that's what Christian signed up for. He signed up to be JUDGED, and he has to accept everything that comes with that -- the bashing, the humiliation, the degradation, etc. Joe B simply asked him to extend the same respect to his fellow competitors as is extended to him. What he should have said perhaps more forwardly was, "Put your fork down and stop eating your f*ckin lobster you immature disrespectful Red Sox loving sh*thead!". That, IMO, would have sent a stronger message.

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                                                    kpaxonite RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 01:20 PM

                                                    i wish while being told off he picked up a piece of lobster and ate it

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                                                      Cheese Boy RE: kpaxonite Jul 19, 2011 01:28 PM

                                                      If I were there as a judge ...
                                                      I'd tell him to savor that bite because it just cost him the prize.
                                                      See ya !!! ... Then I'd hug Jennifer 'cause he hates her.

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                                                        Worldwide Diner RE: kpaxonite Jul 19, 2011 01:31 PM

                                                        i wish while being told off he picked up a piece of lobster and ate it
                                                        And then give Joe the finger.

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                                                        JuniorBalloon RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 03:00 PM

                                                        I would only add that Joe is a jerk because he doesn't respect the competitors. Same applies to christian. And I also don't see why he shouldn't have eaten his food. No one else was going to.


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                                                    chicgail RE: Worldwide Diner Jul 19, 2011 01:03 PM

                                                    I only realized last night that the blond woman contestant who swears a lot and the blond woman who won last night's advantage challenge are not the same person. I still have no idea what their actual names are and the website gives little help.

                                                    I did want to note that the judges went crazy praising her courage and integrity for competing in the aphrodisiac elimination challenge in spite of the fact that she didn't have to -- until they found out her eggs were not set properly and then they used the very same decision to compete to trash her and tell her what a poor decision it was.

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                                                      LindaWhit RE: chicgail Jul 19, 2011 06:23 PM


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                                                    jjjrfoodie RE: itryalot Jul 19, 2011 07:12 PM

                                                    Mother *&(*$%.

                                                    Joe B. did the unwashed finger poke in the food and lick the digit again tonite. Twice. (Tuesday nite episode)

                                                    Once in the just cooked hollandaise sauce before a contestant was plating and then finger-dipped again in a different plate after he had taken a bite of the finished dish via a -OMG, wait for it--fork.
                                                    C'mon man. Srsly.

                                                    If this is footage that is in the edited version, I can only imagine what the footage was like on the cutting room floor.

                                                    Again.One big giant bad hygiene upbringing (especially on camera) EWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                    No wonder the big cities have adopted a visible grading system for restaurant cleanliness and sanitation practices.

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                                                      LindaWhit RE: jjjrfoodie Jul 19, 2011 07:34 PM

                                                      Yeah, I just finished watching tonight's episode, and saw the hollandaise dip. REALLY? I can't believe no one hasn't spoken to him about it. And I really wish Lidia would have smacked him upside the head on camera for it! LOL

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                                                        JuniorBalloon RE: LindaWhit Jul 20, 2011 10:13 AM

                                                        I was so fantasizing that she would have told him off. "You just stuck your finger in that sauce. Do you expect me to serve that to Gordon Ramsay? Who knows where your finger has been. You could have KILLED SOMEBODY!"


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                                                          LurkerDan RE: JuniorBalloon Jul 20, 2011 11:06 AM

                                                          I would kill to see that happen!

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                                                            LindaWhit RE: JuniorBalloon Jul 20, 2011 07:26 PM

                                                            Wouldn't that have been just brilliant? ;-)

                                                      2. hal2010 RE: itryalot Jul 19, 2011 08:11 PM

                                                        Another decent British cooking show loses its way on the trip across the pond...

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                                                          chris2269 RE: hal2010 Jul 19, 2011 08:20 PM

                                                          I love my country but our versions of reality shows suck @ss.

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                                                            LindaWhit RE: chris2269 Jul 20, 2011 05:27 AM

                                                            LOL! That's a great way to put it, chris! We do have a *few* decent reality shows, but most go for the lowest common denominator, don't they?

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                                                              chris2269 RE: LindaWhit Jul 20, 2011 07:26 AM

                                                              I have the advantage to watch a lot of OZ, NZ and British shows

                                                              Here's an example

                                                              A contestant in the top 6 cooks a bad dish

                                                              On the OZ version
                                                              "Katie what went wrong?" .....Tears ...."Oh darling your still a great cook let me give you a job in my Restaurant"

                                                              American version
                                                              "You Donkey F face" ....throws plate across room.

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                                                          cheesemaestro RE: itryalot Jul 20, 2011 11:30 AM

                                                          On elimination challenges, do the contests get a recipe to work from? The show gives the impression that everything is based on the contestants' own knowledge. However, Giuseppe said that he had never cooked eggs Benedict before. It's hard to imagine that he would have had the slightest idea of what to do without some guidance.

                                                          I was sorry to see him eliminated. He was one of the nicest and most respectful contestants. Yes, I know that nice guy doesn't equal chef extraordinaire, but when almost everyone else is backstabbing their fellow contestants, it's good to have one or two who don't.

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                                                            NellyNel RE: cheesemaestro Jul 20, 2011 11:37 AM

                                                            I thought exactly the same thing!

                                                            How did he know how to make a Hollandaise sauce without a recipe?


                                                            I also thought that with the cake challenge.

                                                            I know some peole can whip out a cake without a recipe, but all of them?

                                                            What are the chances of that?

                                                            I also agree about Giuseppe - he was very sweet

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                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: cheesemaestro Jul 20, 2011 11:44 AM

                                                              Last season, I read that, yes, they get a short lesson and a generic recipe to work from.


                                                            2. C. Hamster RE: itryalot Jul 21, 2011 08:03 AM

                                                              Saw somewhere that The Dali Lama was a guest judge on the Australian (I think) version of Master Chef.

                                                              Do not know whether he poked his fingers into the food.

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                                                                chris2269 RE: C. Hamster Jul 21, 2011 08:49 AM

                                                                No finger poking by the Dali Lama...to me he came across as a big kid (in a good way)
                                                                guests on MC Australia this season so far
                                                                Thomas Keller
                                                                David Chang
                                                                Heston Blumenthal
                                                                Anthony Bordain (don't think he judged though)
                                                                The Dali Lama among others

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                                                                  kpaxonite RE: chris2269 Jul 21, 2011 09:55 AM

                                                                  there have been wayyyyy more guests than that....especially if you include the masterclasses which is kind of what boudain did just walking around town with the winners...i would have liked to have seen him actually cook something

                                                                  ahhhhh hayden is gone :( my vote is for dani

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                                                                    chris2269 RE: kpaxonite Jul 21, 2011 10:40 AM

                                                                    Agree My two faves were Hayden and Dani . Now Dani

                                                                    Also agree that there were way more judges I just thought a lot of the US audience would not recognize Niel Perry or Kylie Kwong. that may just be my ignorance.

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                                                                      kpaxonite RE: chris2269 Jul 21, 2011 11:01 AM

                                                                      a lot of people think it will be alana vs kate based on an interview billy did..... I honestly thought kate was going to leave today

                                                                      what makes me question dani is she gets so much airtime which could be a bad sign

                                                                    2. re: kpaxonite
                                                                      Mayor of Melonville RE: kpaxonite Jul 21, 2011 01:40 PM

                                                                      AB might be a fierce critic and have his own TV show, but his cooking career in the kitchen at Les Halles was pretty pedestrian.

                                                                    3. re: chris2269
                                                                      LindaWhit RE: chris2269 Jul 21, 2011 12:46 PM

                                                                      Keerist, why can't we get the MC Australia version here in the U.S.?????

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                                                                        kpaxonite RE: LindaWhit Jul 21, 2011 12:57 PM

                                                                        thats why i like the internet.....you can get anything from anywhere :)

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                                                                          LindaWhit RE: kpaxonite Jul 21, 2011 01:54 PM

                                                                          I wasn't aware that we could get AU television shows over the web, as a lot of networks block overseas viewing.

                                                                          I thought it would be like trying to watch some British shows on various Brit online networks or like the problems with Canadians not being able to watch American shows online.

                                                                          If it's available, I'll have to search it out.

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                                                                            kpaxonite RE: LindaWhit Jul 21, 2011 02:06 PM

                                                                            todays episode: http://www.watchseries-online.com/2011/07/masterchef-australia-371-episode-71.html

                                                                            every episode: http://www.watchseries-online.com/cat...

                                                                            1. re: kpaxonite
                                                                              chris2269 RE: kpaxonite Jul 21, 2011 02:24 PM

                                                                              Oh good link.

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                                                                                LindaWhit RE: kpaxonite Jul 21, 2011 03:23 PM

                                                                                Excellent - thanks! My assumption was wrong. :-)

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                                                                            chris2269 RE: LindaWhit Jul 21, 2011 01:58 PM

                                                                            2 downloads...Ok 1 Down load and one website Utorrent (free down load) The Empire.bz legal site you just have to seed and a media player (I like VLC because it will play 99.9 of all files without requiring extra downloads)

                                                                            The reason is we like to rip of other countries shows and make then Crap. Saves on the whole somebody come up with a concept thing.

                                                                          3. re: chris2269
                                                                            pine time RE: chris2269 Jul 22, 2011 08:08 AM

                                                                            I heard the Dali Lama at a conference, and he was delightful--very much like a big kid, very jovial and self-deprecating.

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