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pronouncing La Ciccia

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I've been pronouncing it La Cheet-ZA. Rhymes with pizza. I got the pronunciation from forvo.com - but I realize it could be very wrong.

How do you pronounce it?

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La Ciccia
291 30th Street, San Francisco, CA 94131

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  1. La Cheecheeya. But I could be wrong too :-)

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    1. re: grayelf

      There's another pronunciation on forvo that's more like: cheech-ah - and I use that one, too.

    2. According to my Italian teacher, the rule is "cc" followed by "i" or "e" is pronounced "ch", like "cheese". As in Gucci, or focaccia.

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      1. re: ferret

        My S.O. and in-laws pronounce focaccia ---> fo-got-za. (They're Piedmontese.)

        So, I guess I'm also wondering how the Sardinians pronounce ciccia.

      2. How does the restaurant owner/staff pronounce it?

        1. I just called them, and the woman's voice on their answering machine greeting pronounces it something like "la Chee-Cha". No discernible z or i sounds therein.

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          1. re: BernalKC

            great work, BernalKC! Solved.

            1. re: scarmoza

              Also, note, the accent is on the first syllable (chee) and the because there is a double c in there, you hold the middle 'ch' consanant a little longer.
              Imagine thinking in terms of musical beats.
              If it were a single c, it would be a two-beat word: chee-cha.
              But because it's a double c, think three beats, with the tongue resting on the inside of the top teeth/front-of-the-roof-of-your-mouth for that middle beat.
              Then, make that middle beat a little shorter than 3 even beats and you've got it.
              :-)

              1. re: pauliface

                You should do a pronunciation on forvo
                http://www.forvo.com/

                1. re: scarmoza

                  Confirming that BernalKC and Pauliface have it exactly right for standard Italian, which will certainly be acceptable. I don't know if there are any Sardinian dialect differences, but given BernalKC's experience I expect not.

                  Michael

          2. the Sardinian restaurant.
            In other words, I haven't been brave enough to try...

            1. Aw geez, and here I've been going around saying La SEE-kee-ya.

              Along the same vein, I very much enjoy the "Don't Sound Like a Tool" feature on SFoodie - like this entry on local chefs:
              http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2010...

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              1. re: abstractpoet

                How do you make the audio for this work? It says to click on the Audio icon, but I don't see any Audio icon.

                1. re: Euonymous

                  Huh - looks like the audio file isn't up anymore. But anyway, it was helpful to know that Syhabout is pronounced "See-a-boot". =)

              2. I think if it follows the general rules of pronunciation and doesn't belong to some regional dialect outside of the norm, it should be CHEETchyah, the double cc giving it that slightly hard stop at the end of the first syllable.

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                1. re: inaplasticcup

                  I was wondering the same thing so I typed into google "how to pronounce La Ciccia"

                  At the very top of the list was Chowhound.... I should have known :)

                  1. re: inaplasticcup

                    If there were a Sardo dialect word, it would probably end in u.

                  2. Lah-SHEIK-yu would be the Italian, but Sardinians may have some unique pronunciation.

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                    1. re: arktos

                      No, that would be spelled scichiu. ci is "chee" as in cheese.

                      "ch" sound:

                      cia
                      ce
                      ci
                      cio
                      ciu

                      "k" sound:

                      ca
                      che
                      chi
                      co
                      cu