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anyone been to both? how do they compare?

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  1. I've been to both and had their tasting menus. Kyo ya hands-down. Brushstroke, while the food was perfectly good, did not bowl me over.

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    Kyo Ya
    94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

    Brushstroke
    30 Hudson St, New York, NY 10013

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    1. re: tigercub

      interesting. and kyo ya was only a little bit more expensive right? i've only been to kyo ya to order a la carte. sounds like the kaiseki is definitely worth a try then.

      1. re: mow mow

        I think Brushstroke was $135 for 10 course tasting menu and the Kyo Ya kaiseki dinner was $150. What made Kyo Ya an exceptional dining experience (beside it being my birthday dinner last year) was that the space was intimate, we sat in front of the chef who was very pleasant, and the food was inventive and memorable. For tea, I highly recommend the soba-cha. Great toasted flavor, not something offered by other restaurants, but should be!

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        Kyo Ya
        94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

    2. The New York Times just reviewed Brushstroke. Two stars.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/din...

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      Brushstroke
      30 Hudson St, New York, NY 10013

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      1. re: H Manning

        That's a very nice review. Thanks for posting. I'm always glad to read good things about Chef Bouley.

        1. re: H Manning

          Sifton seemed rather impressed, I wonder why it was awarded only 2 stars.

          1. re: nextguy

            Interesting question. For context, here are the New York Times ratings for Japanese restaurants.

            Three stars:

            Kuruma Zushi
            Masa
            Nobu (including Nobu Next Door and Nobu 57)
            Sugiyama
            Sushi Yasuda

            Two stars:

            15 East
            Blue Ribbon Sushi
            Bond Street
            Brushstroke
            Donguri
            Gari
            Hatsuhana
            Matsuri
            Megu
            Nadaman Hakubai
            Riingo
            Rosanjin
            Soto

            One star:

            Aburia Kinnosuke
            Blue Ribbon Sushi Brooklyn
            En Japanese Brasserie
            Geisha
            Ippudo
            Jewel Bako
            Kanoyama
            Morimoto
            Niko
            Sasabune
            Sushi Azabu
            Takashi
            Tanuki Tavern
            Ushiwakamaru

            I guess Kyo Ya and Kajitsu have not yet been reviewed.

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            Soto
            357 6th Avenue, New York, NY 10014

            15 East
            15 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

            Sushi Yasuda
            204 E 43rd St, New York, NY 10017

            En Japanese Brasserie
            435 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10014

            Aburiya Kinnosuke
            213 E 45th St, New York, NY 10017

            Sugiyama
            251 W 55th St, New York, NY 10019

            Donguri
            309 E 83rd St, New York, NY 10028

            Blue Ribbon Sushi
            119 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

            Bond Street
            6 Bond Street, New York, NY 10012

            Gari
            370 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

            Geisha
            33 East 61st St, New York, NY 10065

            Hatsuhana
            17 E 48th St, New York, NY 10017

            Jewel Bako
            239 E 5th St, New York, NY 10003

            Kanoyama
            175 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

            Nobu
            105 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

            Nobu 57
            40 West 57th Street, New York, NY 10019

            Ushiwakamaru
            136 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

            Matsuri
            369 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011

            Morimoto
            88 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

            Sasabune
            401 E 73rd St, New York, NY 10021

            Kyo Ya
            94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

            Megu
            62 Thomas Street, New York, NY 10013

            Rosanjin
            141 Duane Street, New York, NY 10013

            Riingo
            205 E. 45th Street, New York, NY 10017

            Ippudo
            65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

            Kurumazushi
            7 E 47th St, New York, NY 10017

            Hakubai
            66 Park Ave, New York, NY 10016

            Sushi Azabu
            428 Greenwich St (basement), New York, NY 10013

            Kajitsu
            414 East 9th Street, New York, NY 10009

            Nobu Next Door
            105 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

            Tanuki Tavern
            18 9th Ave, New York, NY 10014

            Takashi
            456 Hudson St, New York, NY 10011

            Masa
            10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

            Niko
            170 Mercer St, New York, NY 10012

            Brushstroke
            30 Hudson St, New York, NY 10013

            1. re: fm1963

              Amazingly bad ranking system. Michelin seems to have it better. Kajitsu, Kyo Ya, missed. Nobu with Karuma? Etc.

            2. re: nextguy

              Sifton's reviews always seem to kind of have a habit of reading like he really liked it, then the star rating being about 1 star below the way the review reads. Anybody else notice that?

              P.S. Other times, his review just gushes and he rates a restaurant well higher than my experience at it would deserve. I find I'm rarely on the same page with him.