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DaisyM Jun 26, 2011 05:27 AM

We'll be based in Florence and then a few nights in Rome...but willing to take a train to have amazing pizza. Where were your favorites? Do we go to Naples?

  1. erica Jun 26, 2011 10:09 AM

    No doubt the pizza in Naples is a cut above. Whether or not it is worth a train ride from Rome is another story! Do not take offense but I have to chuckle at your request for less-fattening pesto on another thread, combined with this one!

    If you do go, I thought Sorbillo on Via dei Tribunali was extraordinary, but I am sure you will get assorted opinions...

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    Sorbillo
    Via dei Tribunali, 32, Naples, Campania , IT

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      DaisyM Jun 26, 2011 12:58 PM

      I know!! Pathetic, right??? But we eat whatever we want on vacation...so we have to try to save up those calories the rest of the year. My husband's only request when we rented an apartment in Paris was that it be within walking distance of the best patisseries. He told me he was having two croissants every day for breakfast.

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        jen kalb Jun 26, 2011 11:17 PM

        there are some serious pizzerias in Rome - maybe our Rome folks will pipe up to recommend the best/most interesting, There seems to be some innovation going on there. I think Naples pizza is wonderfulm- with the best crust ever and a classic style - and love Naples as an amazing place to visit which should not be limited to a walk betwwen the station and a pizza meal - but am not sure I would take the train ride strictly for a pizza when there is so much good eating around in Rome.

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          bob96 Jun 27, 2011 06:24 PM

          Well, you can get to Naples on the Frecciarossa/Eurostar in an hour ten; a one-day return, 2nd class, is about 80 euros. Or a little less on somewhat slower regular trains. I'd go for a Naples immersion; a trip to Sorbillo would be a nice part of it. But that's me and my math.

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          Sorbillo
          Via dei Tribunali, 32, Naples, Campania , IT

    2. steve h. Jun 27, 2011 06:58 PM

      I feel your pain. It's a challenge, actually.
      Deb and I have been known to take the fast train from Rome to Naples for the express purpose of seeing world-class sculpture and eating great pizza. Sammartino's "Veiled Christ" in the Cappella Sansevero is stunning. A pizza at Da Michele on your way back to the train station is pretty good, too. Go late. Naples has its charm.

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      Da Michele
      Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

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        DaisyM Jun 28, 2011 03:26 AM

        I knew there were others who would take the train for a day of pizza!

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          steve h. Jul 4, 2011 01:05 PM

          A modest piece of advice: Naples is a rabbit warren of twisty little streets. Maybe load a decent navigation app on your smart phone and subscribe to an appropriate international data plan before leaving home. It makes walking around a lot less stressful.

          Edited to add: Don't even think about driving in the city.

      2. _emilie_ Jun 28, 2011 12:48 PM

        You may want to just follow the news closely on Naples before you go... they are enduring some serious trash removal problems from what I read (and its escalated into residents setting piles of trash on fire). That said, we did very much enjoy our pizza in Naples - particularly Trianon. I would brave trash for it, but perhaps not fire.
        http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2009/09/pizzeria-trianon-naples-original-naples-pizza-italy-it-review.html

        You'll find many more opinions here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/627860

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        Trianon
        Via P. Colletta 46, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

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          DaisyM Jun 28, 2011 01:59 PM

          Thank you....the trip isn't until April, but I'm trying to figure out if we add an extra night in Rome or Florence. And I believe pizza will determine that!

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            steve h. Jun 28, 2011 02:20 PM

            March/April is the best. Have too much fun.

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              DaisyM Jun 28, 2011 03:05 PM

              Thank you. Saving calories and cholesterol till then so we can eat all the pizza and pasta that we want.

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          larcy Jun 30, 2011 12:09 PM

          We didn't eat a ton of pizza while we were in Italy but one of my favorite meals the entire trip was pesto and mashed potato pizza. I don't remember the name of the restaurant but it is on the corner of Faenza and Nazionale in Florence. It faces Nazionale and is on the side of the street closest to the train station. They have a ncie garden area in the back and the pizza was great!

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          Nazionale
          Via Cavour,60, Vernante, Piedmont , IT

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            GeraldI Jun 30, 2011 05:44 PM

            I in fact HAVE taken the train from Rome just for pizza at Da Michele. I've tried quite a bit of pizza in Rome and in Naples. To me Da Michele is still the king. But it depends what kind of pizza you like. Frankly, Roman pizza is not like Naples pizza, so if you like the Roman style, then don't take the train to Naples.

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            Da Michele
            Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

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              DaisyM Jul 1, 2011 03:58 AM

              I love that you took the train for pizza! My husband went to Yale. So, to him the pizza by which all are compared is Sally's or Pepe's. Sounds like a day trip to Naples is in order.

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                zerlina Jul 1, 2011 06:10 AM

                Be aware that when one of Italy's top food blogs published a photo of a Pepe's pizza with pepperoni and mushrooms some time ago, the Italian readers' comments were along the lines of "What on earth is that?!?"

                Roman pizza is not like Neapolitan pizza, and neither is like Pepe's pizza.

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                  DaisyM Jul 1, 2011 09:09 AM

                  I guess we have to go to Naples!

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                    Ray2 Jul 4, 2011 12:49 PM

                    On the spur of the moment we've driven to Da Michele from Switzerland. Through the years we've had tons of great pizzas in Italy (as well as tons of mediocre pizzas). Da Michele is in a class by itself. Simple, pure, superb ingredients. The best in Naples? Every Neopolitan has their own favorite but odds are you have never eaten better and, perhaps never will.

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                    Da Michele
                    Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

            2. PBSF Jul 4, 2011 02:11 PM

              What's wrong with the pizza in Rome? If it is your first trip to Rome, one hardly scratch the surface in a few nights.

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                DaisyM Jul 5, 2011 03:26 AM

                I've been to Rome. I was asking for where everyone has had their favorite pizzas in Italy. I appreciate everyone's suggestions. We are saving up calories!

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                  PBSF Jul 5, 2011 08:29 AM

                  The consensus is to train to Naples. Start with da Michele, then walk to via dei Tribunali for Sorbillo, di Matteo, del Presidente.

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                  Sorbillo
                  Via dei Tribunali, 32, Naples, Campania , IT

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                DGSullivan Jul 4, 2011 02:47 PM

                We returned from Rome on Sunday and believe me completely understand your love for pizza!

                I have to start by admitting we did not make it to Da Michele, but we did sample from many other pizzerias. Our favorite by far was "Pizzeria da Baffetto in the area of the Piazza Navona. I know it's a wasted cause but I'll spend the next several weeks attempting to come close to their "Baffetto" pie! Perfectly charred, experienced hand on the sausage, fresh peppers and mushrooms with an egg cooked in the center. Remarkable.

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                Da Michele
                Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

                da Baffetto
                via del Governo Vecchio, 114, Rome, Lazio , IT

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                  steve h. Jul 4, 2011 03:10 PM

                  I'm a fan of Roman pizza. Da Baffetto makes a very good pie but can be a little unnerving for the uninitiated (it's a pizza joint that rolls 'em in (customers), and rolls 'em out. It's popular in the extreme. I like it a lot but timing (go very late) is critical to a good experience. Pizzeria La Montecarlo, just off the nearby Corso Vitorio Emanuelle, is pretty good, too and less frantic by an order of magnitude. Still, these are pizza joints, plain and simple, not fine dining.

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                    DGSullivan Jul 4, 2011 09:13 PM

                    Agreed on the timing issue here. We dined around 6:30PM. The place was mostly full however we got our (3) seats right away. When we finished up shortly before 8:30PM the line had formed some 30-40 folks long.

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                      Luna2372 Jul 5, 2011 03:51 AM

                      The best pizza I had in Italy was in Rota D'Imagna, smoked mozzarella and boar sausage. It was divine. But a long train ride from Florence.

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                        DaisyM Jul 5, 2011 03:58 AM

                        We're going to be in Rome for a few days.

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                        _emilie_ Jul 5, 2011 06:00 AM

                        Yeah the line can get really bad at Da Michele too. However, it moves much more quickly than you'd expect. Beat your way through the door and get on the list first thing (they'll give you a number), then just hang out outside like everyone else.

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                        Da Michele
                        Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

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                          steve h. Jul 5, 2011 12:24 PM

                          Next to Da Baffetto on the Via del Governo Vecchio is La Gelateria Frigidarium. A worthy destination in and of itself.

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                      sockster Jul 5, 2011 09:27 AM

                      This is an off the beaten path in Rome- Incredible pizza tho: PIZZA EUROPA near the train station: He has won may awards, and you can order small tastes of all the different pies that he has available at the moment. Highly recommended. (a very local place).

                      1. MBlair Jul 5, 2011 12:09 PM

                        If you are taking the train into Naples, let me put in a suggestion for Pellone (Via Nazionale, 93), which is maybe a 5 minute walk from the station. It flies under the radar on Chowhound and other food/travel sites, but my wife and I discovered it one night while staying at a hotel near the train station. The following year, we made a special trip just to stop by once again.

                        This is translated from an Italian article on Neapolitan pizza (http://www.dissapore.com/mangiare-fuo...

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                        "In a less fortunate area than Via Tribunali, and with less bourgeois frequentation, Pellone for some represents the essence of the Neapolitan pizza."

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                        Pellone
                        Via Nazionale,93, Naples, Campania 80143, IT

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                          mstacey42 Jul 11, 2011 05:23 PM

                          I will second the Pellone recommendation. It was tied for 1st with Starita A Materdei of about 15 pizzerias I visited in a week in Naples. I say, you are two people; eat two pizzas, one at each of two pizzerias. Go to Da Michele because you will regret it if you don't visit the most famous place (I found it a little disappointing) and then go see a museum (after walking around a bit) and then on your way home go to Pellone (where you might even eat a fried calzone) because it is near the train station.

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                          Da Michele
                          Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

                          Pellone
                          Via Nazionale,93, Naples, Campania 80143, IT

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                            MBlair Jul 11, 2011 08:18 PM

                            Glad to hear from someone else who enjoyed Pellone. Such an aunthentic place and a great Naples experience.

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                            Pellone
                            Via Nazionale,93, Naples, Campania 80143, IT

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                          marcus68 Jul 7, 2011 05:15 AM

                          In Naples, Da Michele is probably the best if you want a standard margherita or marinara and Di Matteo is very good as well. However, my favourite is Trianon (diagonally across from Da Michele) for their 'D.O.P.' pizza. I always considered pizza one of my favourite foods, but this particular pizza was a revelation.

                          In Rome, I really like Pizzarium. It's very good, but completely different from Naples pizza.

                          Extra tips:

                          If you find yourself anywhere near the main station in Rome, particulary in the morning, make a trip to Panella at Via Merulana 54-55. Before my first visit, I didn't know Italian pastries could be so good. They make good savoury sandwich-y things too. Don't miss the weird espresso + zabaione concoction they make there in the mornings.

                          In Naples, try to visit one of the 'Mexico' coffee shops. I'm not a super coffee connoisseur, but the coffee there was awesome. Don't be put off by the name - this is a real Naples coffee shop.

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                          Da Michele
                          Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

                          Di Matteo
                          Via Tribunali, 94, Naples, Campania , IT

                          Trianon
                          Via P. Colletta 46, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

                          Pizzarium
                          Via della Meloria, 43, Rome, Lazio 00136, IT

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                            DaisyM Jul 7, 2011 05:47 AM

                            Marcus, thanks for all the tips. I heard of Pizzarium and we'll absolutely go there, too. I haven't been to Italy since I was in college and have fond memories of standing and drinking espresso and eating pastries.

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                            Pizzarium
                            Via della Meloria, 43, Rome, Lazio 00136, IT

                          2. amysuehere Jul 12, 2011 06:49 AM

                            I will only have a two hour stopover in Naples and I've been told the only place I should hit is Pizzeria Brandi. Thoughts?

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                            Pizzeria Brandi
                            Salita Sant'Anna di Palazzo, 1, Naples, Campania 80132, IT

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                              zerlina Jul 12, 2011 07:03 AM

                              Most people would agree that Pizzeria Brandi is the place you should *not* hit. Besides, it's the furthest of any mentioned here from Napoli Centrale, where I assume you are stopping over.

                              Any of the pizzerias mentioned in this thread would be a better option than Brandi. My vote would go to Gino Sorbillo; Da Michele is closer to the train station, Pellone closer still.

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                              Da Michele
                              Via Cesare Sersale, 1, Naples, Campania 80139, IT

                              Pizzeria Brandi
                              Salita Sant'Anna di Palazzo, 1, Naples, Campania 80132, IT

                              Sorbillo
                              Via dei Tribunali, 32, Naples, Campania , IT

                              Pellone
                              Via Nazionale,93, Naples, Campania 80143, IT

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                                jen kalb Jul 14, 2011 08:17 AM

                                If you only have two hours, do walk down a historic street like Via Tribunale, where Sorbillo is. Naples is more than Pizza tho the pizza is great, but the area around the station will not show you any of the other great things about the town. Sorry, not about food.

                                PS be careful when you visit, do not plan your two hour visit to Naples on sunday since the center is dead then and most of your target pizzerias will be closed.

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                                Sorbillo
                                Via dei Tribunali, 32, Naples, Campania , IT

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